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Replying To ulsterrules:  "I don't think we would be defending Jim if he punched O'Connor. The GAA could do nothing against Jim as there is no TV footage with Jim's hands on O'Connor, while there was clear video footage in Ger's case.

I honestly think if the GAA could have gone after Jim without going after Clifford they would have."
There is footage, sure a previous poster on here has posted the link to it.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 343 - 28/05/2026 15:18:31    2676297

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Replying To Al_Maguire:  "Hate is a very strong word and I genuinely would never hate anyone involved in gaelic games. All I have said is I am not a fan of McGuinness and the way he carries on. His comments to Tommy Rooney last weekend was the latest example of him feeling like he is impervious to any criticism or negative media coverage. But look he has worked wonders for you lot so we will just agree to have differing opinions on this one. No big deal.

A victory over Dublin all of what 12 years ago is something you bring up as it was a highlight for you at the time. I don't think many Dublin people give it a second thought given the run that happened after that happened to include two handy wins against Donegal in '16 & '18."
The media are no saints either. They've allowed narratives like 'Jim destroyed football' grow and fester. The main talking points they focused on after the National League final was 'Murphy should be banned.' They main one after this game is that 'Jim should be banned.' They all huffed when Jim told them he didn't care about thier opinions back in January.

Why is it always 'poor old journalist x'? Poor old Tommy Rooney knew exactly what he was doing by putting him on the defensive and bascially making sure Jim couldn't answer it in any poilte way.

Why are journalists only doing a job if they go for a certain angle? They control the narrative and can go after managers. They can get managers sacked in the premier league.

I've even read the line that 'the best managers never react to journalists' That's bull. Ferguson did it, Klopp did it. Even Pep got salty.

This idea the journalists are all saintly, never hurt a fly, just doing their jobs, martyr for the cause heroes who would never set a narrative or write subjectively about a topic is frankly laughable."]As another poster pointed out above increased media scrutiny, focus on players and management comes with the territory of being an All Ireland contender consistently. Brian Cody was nippy with the media on occasion, Davy Fitz, Ger Loughnane, Mickey Harte, James Horan all had their moments but I don't feel any crossed the line like Jim did last weekend. You have to expect the media are going to come for you (I don't think Tommy went for him but asked a loaded enough question to see how it would go down) and I felt he could have handled that better. A simple "ah look there was a lot going on, lots of bodies out there and I thought the referee handled things well" would have shut it down there and then. Jim Gavin was famous for saying a lot of words but not actually saying much. The media have a job to do, easiest thing is to just not give them fuel for the fire. There was enough fuel from the on field stuff the last day without sticking another match to it after is all.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 343 - 28/05/2026 15:40:29    2676308

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Replying To TrueBlue35:  "The media are no saints either. They've allowed narratives like 'Jim destroyed football' grow and fester. The main talking points they focused on after the National League final was 'Murphy should be banned.' They main one after this game is that 'Jim should be banned.' They all huffed when Jim told them he didn't care about thier opinions back in January.

Why is it always 'poor old journalist x'? Poor old Tommy Rooney knew exactly what he was doing by putting him on the defensive and bascially making sure Jim couldn't answer it in any poilte way.

Why are journalists only doing a job if they go for a certain angle? They control the narrative and can go after managers. They can get managers sacked in the premier league.

I've even read the line that 'the best managers never react to journalists' That's bull. Ferguson did it, Klopp did it. Even Pep got salty.

This idea the journalists are all saintly, never hurt a fly, just doing their jobs, martyr for the cause heroes who would never set a narrative or write subjectively about a topic is frankly laughable."
As another poster pointed out above increased media scrutiny, focus on players and management comes with the territory of being an All Ireland contender consistently. Brian Cody was nippy with the media on occasion, Davy Fitz, Ger Loughnane, Mickey Harte, James Horan all had their moments but I don't feel any crossed the line like Jim did last weekend. You have to expect the media are going to come for you (I don't think Tommy went for him but asked a loaded enough question to see how it would go down) and I felt he could have handled that better. A simple "ah look there was a lot going on, lots of bodies out there and I thought the referee handled things well" would have shut it down there and then. Jim Gavin was famous for saying a lot of words but not actually saying much. The media have a job to do, easiest thing is to just not give them fuel for the fire. There was enough fuel from the on field stuff the last day without sticking another match to it after is all."]Tommy would have been chastised if he didn't ask it though. And I dunno about you but I listen to him weekly and out of all the so called neutral pundits, he is by far the soundest and most genuine. Other ones have it out for Donegal. He doesn't.
It's his job to ask questions and he asked a fair one that should have been asked. Jim was caught off guard and reacted badly.

I agree with most of your points though. People forget the defensive football Tyrone played before Donegal started to in 2011.
And people seem to have this weird opinion that football from the 70s to 2011 was always great watch or attacking. Was it hell. Watch any old game and you'd see there was often poor play at the highest level too.

eddieSize5Balls (Donegal) - Posts: 375 - 28/05/2026 17:12:46    2676341

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Replying To eddieSize5Balls:  "As another poster pointed out above increased media scrutiny, focus on players and management comes with the territory of being an All Ireland contender consistently. Brian Cody was nippy with the media on occasion, Davy Fitz, Ger Loughnane, Mickey Harte, James Horan all had their moments but I don't feel any crossed the line like Jim did last weekend. You have to expect the media are going to come for you (I don't think Tommy went for him but asked a loaded enough question to see how it would go down) and I felt he could have handled that better. A simple "ah look there was a lot going on, lots of bodies out there and I thought the referee handled things well" would have shut it down there and then. Jim Gavin was famous for saying a lot of words but not actually saying much. The media have a job to do, easiest thing is to just not give them fuel for the fire. There was enough fuel from the on field stuff the last day without sticking another match to it after is all."
Tommy would have been chastised if he didn't ask it though. And I dunno about you but I listen to him weekly and out of all the so called neutral pundits, he is by far the soundest and most genuine. Other ones have it out for Donegal. He doesn't.
It's his job to ask questions and he asked a fair one that should have been asked. Jim was caught off guard and reacted badly.

I agree with most of your points though. People forget the defensive football Tyrone played before Donegal started to in 2011.
And people seem to have this weird opinion that football from the 70s to 2011 was always great watch or attacking. Was it hell. Watch any old game and you'd see there was often poor play at the highest level too."]As a neutral i think McGuinness was well entitled to say what he did. For far too long these journalists have been asking lazy and controversial questions where most managers either avoided the question or answered it in a highly diplomatic way..In other words the question was never answered. It shouldn't be all their own way and if these journalists concentrated more on the game and tactics which is what they should be then they'd get 100% cooperation from managers. If they want controversy then theres theres the soaps znd love island..As a Gaa fan im interested in the game and let the ref and cc cc etc deal with the rest

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 67 - 28/05/2026 23:08:14    2676380

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Replying To TrueBlue35:  "There is footage, sure a previous poster on here has posted the link to it."
Can you put up a link that shows Jim's hands on O'Connor, I have seen RTE show clips of Jim going towards O'Connor but no angle shows any part of Jim touching O'Connor, and you better believe the Union of Journalists from Rte to Newstalk would have it online for all to see if there was one.

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 296 - 29/05/2026 12:04:16    2676409

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I heard they wanted action taken against Caolan McGonigle too, for his titanium-like jaw hurting David Clifford's elbow.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1857 - 29/05/2026 12:21:32    2676418

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Replying To ulsterrules:  "Can you put up a link that shows Jim's hands on O'Connor, I have seen RTE show clips of Jim going towards O'Connor but no angle shows any part of Jim touching O'Connor, and you better believe the Union of Journalists from Rte to Newstalk would have it online for all to see if there was one."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lbIt7gw3KA

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 343 - 29/05/2026 12:22:46    2676419

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Replying To eddieSize5Balls:  "As another poster pointed out above increased media scrutiny, focus on players and management comes with the territory of being an All Ireland contender consistently. Brian Cody was nippy with the media on occasion, Davy Fitz, Ger Loughnane, Mickey Harte, James Horan all had their moments but I don't feel any crossed the line like Jim did last weekend. You have to expect the media are going to come for you (I don't think Tommy went for him but asked a loaded enough question to see how it would go down) and I felt he could have handled that better. A simple "ah look there was a lot going on, lots of bodies out there and I thought the referee handled things well" would have shut it down there and then. Jim Gavin was famous for saying a lot of words but not actually saying much. The media have a job to do, easiest thing is to just not give them fuel for the fire. There was enough fuel from the on field stuff the last day without sticking another match to it after is all."
Tommy would have been chastised if he didn't ask it though. And I dunno about you but I listen to him weekly and out of all the so called neutral pundits, he is by far the soundest and most genuine. Other ones have it out for Donegal. He doesn't.
It's his job to ask questions and he asked a fair one that should have been asked. Jim was caught off guard and reacted badly.

I agree with most of your points though. People forget the defensive football Tyrone played before Donegal started to in 2011.
And people seem to have this weird opinion that football from the 70s to 2011 was always great watch or attacking. Was it hell. Watch any old game and you'd see there was often poor play at the highest level too."]The fact of the matter is Tyrone didn't play defensive football before 2011 as most GAA followers would know. The "puke football" tag was coined by Pat Spillane after the 2003 semi-final when Tyrone hunted in packs mostly in the Kerry half of the field to stop Kerry coming out with the ball, this was in no way similar to the unwatchable football played by Donegal in 2011.
Have a look at the 2005 final between Tyrone and Kerry, one of the best finals in the last 30 years.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 468 - 29/05/2026 12:37:29    2676422

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Replying To ulsterrules:  "Can you put up a link that shows Jim's hands on O'Connor, I have seen RTE show clips of Jim going towards O'Connor but no angle shows any part of Jim touching O'Connor, and you better believe the Union of Journalists from Rte to Newstalk would have it online for all to see if there was one."
Google youtube and its there for all to see.There is rose tinted glasses but yois take the biscuit.Yous never see any wrong by donegal.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 632 - 29/05/2026 12:43:48    2676424

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Think at this stage we should all just get on with our lives.
I think the Championship will really start to heat up after this weekend's games have been played, and the draw takes place next week. The real jeopardy will come into play then.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10351 - 29/05/2026 13:34:36    2676436

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Replying To brayballer:  "Google youtube and its there for all to see.There is rose tinted glasses but yois take the biscuit.Yous never see any wrong by donegal."
The Wicklow people are very interested in Donegal. Good luck in the Tailteann Cup...

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 975 - 29/05/2026 14:42:19    2676453

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "The Wicklow people are very interested in Donegal. Good luck in the Tailteann Cup..."
Tough luck.Im not from Wicklow but I do like to see them do well.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 632 - 29/05/2026 15:12:32    2676460

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