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Replying To ryan:  "See we have advertised for a new head of academy. This must be what our last chairman kept referring too as far back as last January when he quoted that the academy needs to be rebranded. Hurling and football together, a mess.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Good start from our new executive."
Just asking, what's wrong with this advertisement for a head of Academy.

Whateveryourhavingyourself (Donegal) - Posts: 56 - 16/01/2024 23:58:34    2520590

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Replying To Whateveryourhavingyourself:  "Just asking, what's wrong with this advertisement for a head of Academy."
This person will have to run both hurling and football. I wonder how dual counties like Cork, Galway, Limerick, Clare, Dublin do things?

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 747 - 17/01/2024 08:33:34    2520597

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Replying To ryan:  "See we have advertised for a new head of academy. This must be what our last chairman kept referring too as far back as last January when he quoted that the academy needs to be rebranded. Hurling and football together, a mess.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Good start from our new executive."
how is it a mess? They're advertising for a new head of the academy, the first step to getting the academy up and running again. It's a positive step

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 573 - 17/01/2024 09:19:25    2520604

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Replying To greenfan:  "how is it a mess? They're advertising for a new head of the academy, the first step to getting the academy up and running again. It's a positive step"
Agree, it's a very positive step and must be welcomed. It's time to move on from the Lacey saga and start afresh. A new chapter with committed people who won't leave at the first sign of difficulty.

As for the Academy being an umbrella for both Football and Hurling, I don't see the problem. The Head of the Academy should be about bringing up the standards and ensuring that the coaching is at a high level ie: Coaching the coaches, in both hurling and football. Sharing resources, funding and expertise makes absolute sense and is a much better and smarter use of money.

PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 112 - 17/01/2024 10:36:12    2520622

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Replying To greenfan:  "how is it a mess? They're advertising for a new head of the academy, the first step to getting the academy up and running again. It's a positive step"
It's taken 12 months and includes hurling. Give me an example of a county who is doing this. Or maybe this is inclusion or some political nonsense. We are not a hurling county. Why not have a football academy person in charge of running the football and a hurling academy person in charge of running the hurling?

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 747 - 17/01/2024 11:16:50    2520628

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Whoever takes the academy over the most important thing is development of players for senior county football in terms of S and C. Identify the talent and focus on those. Once they come out of minor steer gathering them. For too long players have left minor and they reappear again at under 20 level looking the exact same in terms of S and C. I always use Mayo as an example. Look at Oisin Mullins when he broke through. A man.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1191 - 17/01/2024 12:00:14    2520633

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Replying To ryan:  "It's taken 12 months and includes hurling. Give me an example of a county who is doing this. Or maybe this is inclusion or some political nonsense. We are not a hurling county. Why not have a football academy person in charge of running the football and a hurling academy person in charge of running the hurling?"
love hurling, but agree there should be a seperate academy to promote it led by Hurling people. donegal is a football county and we need to get the emphasis back to football at underage to ensure we continue to dine at the top table

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 993 - 17/01/2024 12:34:42    2520640

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "It's possible. I don't think we have the luxury this season of saying our CHB is guaranteed to be in that mould, we will need to be more reactive to opposition shapes to have that level of consistency. But I certainly think both McGonagle and McFadden will be prepared to play that role depending on opposition.

To tell the truth, I think there's a number of footballers in the panel who could play CHB excellently in the right system. Ban, DÓB, McGonagle, Hughie, McCole all have the experience, and can bring their own strengths to that area. Curran often acted as de facto CHB last season when Donegal were in possession as his man markers played deep. Don't be surprised to see McGuinness tease that idea out during the league. The best CHBs are corner backs."
What is the fitness status of Eoghan Ban Gallagher?

The back six will most likely be selected from the following group
Brendan McCole, Ciaran Moore, Stephen McMenamin, Mark Curran.
Jack McKelvey, Odhran Doherty, Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Caolan McColgan, Peadar Mogan, Ryan McHugh.

I don't think Hugh McFadden has the turning pace for a defensive role, but he could play inside as a target man at certain points, he has attacking ability. I also prefer Ryan McHugh playing a more attacking role, think he is more effective there.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1193 - 17/01/2024 13:38:42    2520650

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is ethan O'Donnell ( glenties ) apart of Jim's panel

red.hugh (Donegal) - Posts: 176 - 17/01/2024 15:05:44    2520663

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great to see Jim back and the focus and the real steel back as well , what pity jim wasnt about in 2018 and 2019 .

but for all the all the excitement , focus and energy .. i still think physical we are not at the races .. Mckenna final is massive game already into our development, derry have to be thinking Sam or nothing ..back to back ulster champions threw it away against a limited kerry outfit last year . club all ireland champions in the county soon and three time all ireland winning manager leading them now ..

we need to find height and presence in our backs especially ..

good luck jim

red.hugh (Donegal) - Posts: 176 - 17/01/2024 15:13:30    2520666

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Replying To ryan:  "It's taken 12 months and includes hurling. Give me an example of a county who is doing this. Or maybe this is inclusion or some political nonsense. We are not a hurling county. Why not have a football academy person in charge of running the football and a hurling academy person in charge of running the hurling?"
The head of academy won't be coaching. They will be responsible for all the tasks that are common whether it's a hurling or football academy, ensuring best practice, standards etc. Makes sense to have one person doing it.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 573 - 17/01/2024 15:22:06    2520667

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Replying To red.hugh:  "is ethan O'Donnell ( glenties ) apart of Jim's panel"
I could be wrong but I think Ethan O'Donnell is away travelling in 2024. Naomh Conaill posters could confirm.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9513 - 17/01/2024 15:50:33    2520670

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Replying To red.hugh:  "is ethan O'Donnell ( glenties ) apart of Jim's panel"
No he is going to Australia with his club mate Eunan Doherty. Two big loses for Glenties.

Reading between the lines of Jim's interviews it was someone 'in house' who raised the Finbarr Roarty issue. I realise media did report it but apparently it was one of 'our own' who officially alerted Ulster.

I've heard it from one or two that it was a members of last years executive who isn't in situ now and not the obvious one you'd think.

Extremely petty and vindictive if true.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1006 - 17/01/2024 15:55:43    2520673

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My strongest starting 15 at the moment, not fully decided on this tbh.

Oisin Gallen.
Jamie Brennan
Patrick McBrearty or Niall O'Donnell.

Shane O'Donnell
Ryan McHugh
Ciaran Thompson

Michael Langan
Jason McGee

Caolan McGonigle
Peadar Mogan
Odhran Doherty / Caolan McColgan.

Jack McKelvey / Stephen McMenamin.
Brendan McCole
Eoghan Ban Gallagher
Shaun Patton

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1193 - 17/01/2024 16:01:09    2520675

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "No he is going to Australia with his club mate Eunan Doherty. Two big loses for Glenties.

Reading between the lines of Jim's interviews it was someone 'in house' who raised the Finbarr Roarty issue. I realise media did report it but apparently it was one of 'our own' who officially alerted Ulster.

I've heard it from one or two that it was a members of last years executive who isn't in situ now and not the obvious one you'd think.

Extremely petty and vindictive if true."
Wudnt be too hard for the Ulster council to find out , sure it was every where.. your a great man for the blame game. Any wee bit of gossip and your in.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2559 - 17/01/2024 16:45:33    2520683

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Wudnt be too hard for the Ulster council to find out , sure it was every where.. your a great man for the blame game. Any wee bit of gossip and your in."
Did you ever hear back from the Ulster Council about that game that wasn't available online?

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1006 - 17/01/2024 17:01:03    2520686

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Is Caolan Ward not on the panel this year.?

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1122 - 17/01/2024 17:12:03    2520689

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Replying To greenfan:  "The head of academy won't be coaching. They will be responsible for all the tasks that are common whether it's a hurling or football academy, ensuring best practice, standards etc. Makes sense to have one person doing it."
100% correct. Also why not bring in the ladies as well , join all of the funding together and eventually make it a full time role with a team around him/her. Bringing in the hurlers should compliment it, not threaten it.
Make it the best Academy in Ireland. Just honest hard work and shared expertise for the best interest of Donegal.

PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 112 - 17/01/2024 17:33:41    2520692

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Did you ever hear back from the Ulster Council about that game that wasn't available online?"
Sure we all know it wasn't available, no point in bringing it up again. Did you get off your armchair this year yet, me thinks you have too much time on your hands lol.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2559 - 17/01/2024 18:09:04    2520696

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Replying To Commodore:  "My strongest starting 15 at the moment, not fully decided on this tbh.

Oisin Gallen.
Jamie Brennan
Patrick McBrearty or Niall O'Donnell.

Shane O'Donnell
Ryan McHugh
Ciaran Thompson

Michael Langan
Jason McGee

Caolan McGonigle
Peadar Mogan
Odhran Doherty / Caolan McColgan.

Jack McKelvey / Stephen McMenamin.
Brendan McCole
Eoghan Ban Gallagher
Shaun Patton"
No Conor O Donnell?

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1191 - 17/01/2024 18:34:30    2520700

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