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Replying To gunman:  "I wonder what is the cause of these serious hamstring injuries.I see Langan needed an operation too and will probably be out for the group stages.All this talk about S&C preventing injuries seems to be the opposite.I always felt that just simple stretches pre games prevented Hamstring injuries.Too much Gym work might be interfering with a players natural flexibility."
S+C does prevent injuries if its done correctly. The fact that we have so many injuries might indicate that the S+C isn't right.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 463 - 18/05/2023 13:36:42    2479421

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "Yeah can see a Clare win by around 7 points."
Unfortunately I could see Clare running out 10+ point winners unless there is a massive turnaround and we have got some players back.

I hate being negative around Donegal football, but my honest assessment right now is that we are fielding a weakened starting 15 and we have no bench and thus no impact.

I'm fairly certain I could round up 21-25 players right now who are outside the County panel who would beat the current starting 15 on the County Team.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1106 - 18/05/2023 14:01:06    2479429

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Replying To gunman:  "I wonder what is the cause of these serious hamstring injuries.I see Langan needed an operation too and will probably be out for the group stages.All this talk about S&C preventing injuries seems to be the opposite.I always felt that just simple stretches pre games prevented Hamstring injuries.Too much Gym work might be interfering with a players natural flexibility."
I noticed him v Roscommon and looked like he was carrying injury/knock into game and try to play through it or manage it. Then v down aggravated it and suppose that makes it alot worse. Wish him speedy recovery. That's the problem with panel at the moment there are players that kinda have to play ( longer term this catch's up) as no depth to cover them, we seem to be down to bare bones of players available even with Mogan out too. I travelling in hope and just want to see bit of fight and younger players stake claim for future- young mcglynn, Connor o Donnell and hopefully Gallen can get consistent run. Wonder what the long term effect of this year will be when we look back.

DonegalDanny92 (Donegal) - Posts: 39 - 18/05/2023 14:51:57    2479441

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Replying To Commodore:  "Unfortunately I could see Clare running out 10+ point winners unless there is a massive turnaround and we have got some players back.

I hate being negative around Donegal football, but my honest assessment right now is that we are fielding a weakened starting 15 and we have no bench and thus no impact.

I'm fairly certain I could round up 21-25 players right now who are outside the County panel who would beat the current starting 15 on the County Team."
I take your point but to suggest that we have an additional 20+ better fit players is a stretch. Apart from McHugh, Murphy and the 2 O'Donnells we probably have the best squad of players available, give or take. There may be a few more who are debatable but they are not better than what is there. Remember, of our current starting team it is very close to those who played in last years Ulster Final.
Make no mistake, this is not a player availability issue (although they have not performed when it was required), this is a management and coaching issue and our inadequate county board for putting them there. Had this been at the required level the 4 mentioned players above would all have committed, we'd be performing to a much higher level and we'd be heading to Ennis with genuine ambition.
I honestly do not remember a lower point in my living memory and I include 2010 in that. Horrible times.

PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 104 - 18/05/2023 14:52:57    2479442

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Replying To Commodore:  "Unfortunately I could see Clare running out 10+ point winners unless there is a massive turnaround and we have got some players back.

I hate being negative around Donegal football, but my honest assessment right now is that we are fielding a weakened starting 15 and we have no bench and thus no impact.

I'm fairly certain I could round up 21-25 players right now who are outside the County panel who would beat the current starting 15 on the County Team."
Murphy would be the first man on your team sheet.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 18/05/2023 15:17:54    2479449

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Replying To PeterQ92:  "I take your point but to suggest that we have an additional 20+ better fit players is a stretch. Apart from McHugh, Murphy and the 2 O'Donnells we probably have the best squad of players available, give or take. There may be a few more who are debatable but they are not better than what is there. Remember, of our current starting team it is very close to those who played in last years Ulster Final.
Make no mistake, this is not a player availability issue (although they have not performed when it was required), this is a management and coaching issue and our inadequate county board for putting them there. Had this been at the required level the 4 mentioned players above would all have committed, we'd be performing to a much higher level and we'd be heading to Ennis with genuine ambition.
I honestly do not remember a lower point in my living memory and I include 2010 in that. Horrible times."
I don't think Donegal people truly realise the extend of Murphy's retirement has been on the panel, on top of everything else thats happened this year. The greatest full forward to ever play the game, the best player of the past decade 2010-20, and a natural leader who led this group for past few years.
There was going to a dip when Murphy retired, and people thought that day wasn't coming for another few years.

Player wise: There isn't much better in the club scene that isn't in the panel or are out injured. That doesn't mean that the Donegal panel is strong, it is that the club scene is so poor. It's not the players fault, it's managers and coaches who all are trying to play like county teams, defending in numbers and breaking fast on the turnover. Attacking at speed and holding possession / spreading from side to side until the team can work an opening and shooting only when they are in 90% shooting position.
Glenties and St Eunans are the only two teams capable of doing this, every other team in the county either aren't fit enough or have players capable of doing this, that's why club games in Donegal are very hard to watch.

It's funny that when I lamented Donegals demise at beginning of the year I was lambasted and bererated, but know the penny is starting to drop for most of the posters on this forum.

I hope Donegal board / Academy issues are addressed and it's back up and running because they are the future.

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 18/05/2023 16:37:43    2479465

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Replying To PeterQ92:  "I take your point but to suggest that we have an additional 20+ better fit players is a stretch. Apart from McHugh, Murphy and the 2 O'Donnells we probably have the best squad of players available, give or take. There may be a few more who are debatable but they are not better than what is there. Remember, of our current starting team it is very close to those who played in last years Ulster Final.
Make no mistake, this is not a player availability issue (although they have not performed when it was required), this is a management and coaching issue and our inadequate county board for putting them there. Had this been at the required level the 4 mentioned players above would all have committed, we'd be performing to a much higher level and we'd be heading to Ennis with genuine ambition.
I honestly do not remember a lower point in my living memory and I include 2010 in that. Horrible times."
Ethan O Donnell
Eoghan Mc Gettigan
Shane O Donnell
Aaron Doherty
Niall O Donnell
Morrison -Eunans
Ryan Mc Hugh
Stephen MC Brearty
Eoin Mc Hugh
Odhran Mc Niallis
Michael Langan
P. Mogan
P. Mc Brearty
M. Murphy

Probably missing a few lads but the above would make a huge difference.

Saying we are close to our Ulster final team from last year isn't accurate. We're down Aaron Doherty, Shane, Niall, Mc Brearty, Murphy, Langan and Mogan. If the opposition could pick seven players to get rid of, I think the above names would be at the top of their list. !

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1139 - 18/05/2023 17:34:21    2479484

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Replying To PeterQ92:  "I take your point but to suggest that we have an additional 20+ better fit players is a stretch. Apart from McHugh, Murphy and the 2 O'Donnells we probably have the best squad of players available, give or take. There may be a few more who are debatable but they are not better than what is there. Remember, of our current starting team it is very close to those who played in last years Ulster Final.
Make no mistake, this is not a player availability issue (although they have not performed when it was required), this is a management and coaching issue and our inadequate county board for putting them there. Had this been at the required level the 4 mentioned players above would all have committed, we'd be performing to a much higher level and we'd be heading to Ennis with genuine ambition.
I honestly do not remember a lower point in my living memory and I include 2010 in that. Horrible times."
The following team is players who are not currently part of the Donegal squad or are injured or missed out on match day squad against Down and the last few National League matches. For fairness I will leave out Patrick McBrearty.

Michael Murphy
Niall O'Donnell
Eoin McGeehin
Shane O'Donnell
Odhran MacNiallais
Ryan McHugh

Micheal Carroll
Darragh Mulgrew

Odhran Doherty
Jack McKelvey
Paul Brennan
Conor Morrison
Aaron Deeney
Odhran McFadden Ferry

Mark Anthony McGinley

SUBS
Cian Mulligan
Eoin McHugh
Andrew McClean
Conor Parke
Ciaran McGinley
Daithi Gildea
Stephen McBrearty

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1106 - 18/05/2023 17:38:38    2479489

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There is no great panel of players out there, if they have retired or are out long term injury or just done want to commit to the County panel then there is no use talking about them. Cant see a win on Sunday but a surpise would be nice.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 404 - 18/05/2023 20:17:45    2479503

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Replying To Commodore:  "The following team is players who are not currently part of the Donegal squad or are injured or missed out on match day squad against Down and the last few National League matches. For fairness I will leave out Patrick McBrearty.

Michael Murphy
Niall O'Donnell
Eoin McGeehin
Shane O'Donnell
Odhran MacNiallais
Ryan McHugh

Micheal Carroll
Darragh Mulgrew

Odhran Doherty
Jack McKelvey
Paul Brennan
Conor Morrison
Aaron Deeney
Odhran McFadden Ferry

Mark Anthony McGinley

SUBS
Cian Mulligan
Eoin McHugh
Andrew McClean
Conor Parke
Ciaran McGinley
Daithi Gildea
Stephen McBrearty"
The vast majority of those players have been in county squads or even played in the team and done very little. Every county is the same. Support the men in the Donegal shirt .

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 463 - 18/05/2023 23:15:25    2479543

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Replying To greenfan:  "
Replying To Commodore:  "The following team is players who are not currently part of the Donegal squad or are injured or missed out on match day squad against Down and the last few National League matches. For fairness I will leave out Patrick McBrearty.

Michael Murphy
Niall O'Donnell
Eoin McGeehin
Shane O'Donnell
Odhran MacNiallais
Ryan McHugh

Micheal Carroll
Darragh Mulgrew

Odhran Doherty
Jack McKelvey
Paul Brennan
Conor Morrison
Aaron Deeney
Odhran McFadden Ferry

Mark Anthony McGinley

SUBS
Cian Mulligan
Eoin McHugh
Andrew McClean
Conor Parke
Ciaran McGinley
Daithi Gildea
Stephen McBrearty"
The vast majority of those players have been in county squads or even played in the team and done very little. Every county is the same. Support the men in the Donegal shirt ."
100% most of them have been there, didn't cut it. Pulled out under various managers. It's time to support the lads who want to be there.. as a former Co manager said county football is not for everyone.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2392 - 19/05/2023 11:32:23    2479605

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The following is a list of 28 Donegal players who will be unavailable or injured for the visit to Clare and most likely the rest of Championship 2023, and have been mostly unavailable for 2023 so far. The majority of these players have featured for Donegal in Championship in the last 2-3 seasons and are within the age bracket to be still playing.

OPTED OUT or RETIRED or POSSIBLY INJURED
Michael Murphy
Eoin McGeehin
Shane O'Donnell
Odhran MacNiallais
Micheal Carroll

Darragh Mulgrew
Odhran Doherty
Jack McKelvey
Paul Brennan
Conor Morrison

Aaron Deeney
Odhran McFadden Ferry
Mark Anthony McGinley
Cian Mulligan
Eoin McHugh

Andrew McClean
Conor Parke
Ciaran McGinley
Daithi Gildea
Stephen McBrearty

Eoghan McGettigan
Aaron Doherty
Ethan O'Donnell

INJURED
Patrick McBrearty
Ryan McHugh
Michael Langan
Peadar Mogan
Niall O'Donnell

I'm sure I have missed a few players also, but I would ask anyone who thinks our recent National League and Championship failings are due to Management only to maybe think again.

Donegal are depleted.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1106 - 19/05/2023 13:00:58    2479635

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Paddy Bradley and Aidan O 'Rourke will be aware what effect crashing out of Div 1, Ulster and the group series will have on their career in coaching and management and I am in doubt that they'll be doing everything in their power and knowledge to win this weekend for their own skins. It was a poisoned chalice. However, the issue may lie with them not being able to sufficiently rouse the mentally lethargic squad. I think it may be a little late in the day to fix our group fitness issue and even if their heads were in the right place for the group stages, the bodies havn't been prepared for this level of football this year. Our squad is too thin, we've too many kids and the balance is all wrong. It may have worked for Ferguson, but this is a different ball game.

StockholmGael (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 19/05/2023 14:08:05    2479655

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Team announced! What do we think?

tickets (Donegal) - Posts: 76 - 19/05/2023 15:04:56    2479664

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Replying To greenfan:  "
Replying To Commodore:  "The following team is players who are not currently part of the Donegal squad or are injured or missed out on match day squad against Down and the last few National League matches. For fairness I will leave out Patrick McBrearty.

Michael Murphy
Niall O'Donnell
Eoin McGeehin
Shane O'Donnell
Odhran MacNiallais
Ryan McHugh

Micheal Carroll
Darragh Mulgrew

Odhran Doherty
Jack McKelvey
Paul Brennan
Conor Morrison
Aaron Deeney
Odhran McFadden Ferry

Mark Anthony McGinley

SUBS
Cian Mulligan
Eoin McHugh
Andrew McClean
Conor Parke
Ciaran McGinley
Daithi Gildea
Stephen McBrearty"
The vast majority of those players have been in county squads or even played in the team and done very little. Every county is the same. Support the men in the Donegal shirt ."
A number of those players who would be in the Donegal starting lineup or bench for Championship ahead of a few players in the current squad. The others may have played more supporting roles, would still be stronger and better conditioned options than some young players we currently are fielding.

I do support the men in the shirt, but anyone ignoring how weakened the current Donegal squad is right now needs their head looked at.

Donegal 2023 is badly weakened from the number of players we lost, we just didn't got from pushing Derry to extra time in Ulster final 2022 and beating Armagh in 2/3 games in a few months due to poor management,

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1106 - 19/05/2023 15:21:44    2479668

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Team announced! What do we think?

tickets (Donegal) - Posts: 76 - 19/05/2023 15:26:11    2479669

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Donegal Team/Squad vs Clare

Shaun Patton

Brendan McCole
John Ross Molloy
Caolan Ward
Eoghan Ban Gallagher
Odhran Doherty
Daire O'Baoill

Caolan McGonigle
Rory O Donnell

Ciaran Thompson
Luke McGlynn
Conor O'Donnell
Hugh McFadden
Ciaran Thompson
Jamie Brennan

SUBs

Gavin Mulreaney
Jason McGee
Caolan McColgan
Brian O'Donnell
Oisin Gallen
Marty O'Reilly
Johnny McGroddy
Kane Barrett
Kieran Tobin
Jack McSharry
Jamie Grant

No massive change from the National League, still think we are likely to get tanked by Clare, Monaghan and Derry, but hope I am proved wrong.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1106 - 19/05/2023 16:20:14    2479679

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Heading to Ennis for the weekend, travelling in hope of a good performance. Munster hurling championship on Sunday in Ennis so looking forward to a good weekend.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 724 - 19/05/2023 17:41:19    2479688

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Replying To tickets:  "Team announced! What do we think?"
I think it's weak in a lot of areas but I do wish the lads the best, please God they play with serious tenacity and heart and that's all I want anyway.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 19/05/2023 17:55:38    2479689

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Replying To tickets:  "Team announced! What do we think?"
If it starts as selected we might be in bother. A lot of new faces and big ask for away trip, new faces in most of the lines of field. If concerns on fitness of Jason McGee and Gallen, that's a fierce bad run of injuries. Maybe it's to counter the fade out in Down after 60 minutes to hold 1-2 back to see out but that would be risky and more likely injury related. Hopefully I wrong but worried about getting result tomorrow and might be few changes before throw in.

DonegalDanny92 (Donegal) - Posts: 39 - 19/05/2023 18:08:26    2479692

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