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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "How would you delineate it from the Division 1 (Skelly Cup) in that scenario? They should align ACFL with how the national league is run. No cup for finishing top of a division, top two (top from each group if the division is split) play the final and that's your league title. Makes sense anyway but especially in a more condensed season." Solution to that is to not have groups, it is a league after all. They were brought in during covid and there is no need for them now. 11 teams in Division 1 is far too high. It needs to come down to 8 and play it as a single round with three games without county players and four with. Make the four with county players worth four or five points for a win so teams with a good few county players do not get screwed from the earlier rounds liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 253 - 06/07/2023 09:04:26 2492560 Link
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "How would you delineate it from the Division 1 (Skelly Cup) in that scenario? They should align ACFL with how the national league is run. No cup for finishing top of a division, top two (top from each group if the division is split) play the final and that's your league title. Makes sense anyway but especially in a more condensed season." They are trying to incentivise coming 2nd in your group and keeping most games competitive and not dead rubbers. honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 06/07/2023 09:43:46 2492565 Link
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Killoe asked for the postponement. Both teams played 4 league games in 11 days and would have a final today, and semi-final and maybe another final all over next two weekends and then into a long c'ship campaign from 28th. A few county lads there who won't have had much of a break and are taking one now. I don't like or approve of postponing games - I think you play what's in front of you with the bench you have and complain to the powers later, but I have never before seen the ridiculous speed at which the back end of the league was played this year. There is a compressed season and there is the past two weeks, and I just don't get it. The current schedule is unnecessary and not good for player welfare. So I would factor all of that in when deciding to be irate or not. Outcome was that both clubs agreed to use the next league encounter as the final just as Abbeylara and Colmcille did in 2021 for the postponed 2020 decider, if i'm not mistaken? I'm predicting Slashers and Mullinalaghta for the Leader Cup final so the Division 1 will likely be decided next year." Killoe have a big enough squad to handle multiple games. Did they not have something like 40 or 50 players out training at the beginning of the year. Clonguish will be missing all their minor players as well as the players they are already missing and from what I see they have not got a postponement against Mullinlaghta. That's 2 games now Killoe have got postponed in the space of a week. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1326 - 06/07/2023 10:46:21 2492598 Link
Replying To Spinx: "Promotion and relegation from Division 2 was sorted last night. Rathcline officially secured promotion back to the top table while surprisingly Cashel got relegated to Division 3. I think they have become the first Senior Championship winning club to be playing Junior league football since Clonguish back in the early 90's. Anyone know what is going on out there? Surely they should have been good enough to stay in Division 2? They got an awful beating last night from Ballymore, who themselves were on a bad run." So Seán Connollys/Colmcille relegated to division 2 with rathcline promoted. And Cashel relegated to division 3, with who promoted to division 2? easycowboy (Longford) - Posts: 28 - 06/07/2023 11:48:55 2492617 Link
Replying To easycowboy: "So Seán Connollys/Colmcille relegated to division 2 with rathcline promoted. And Cashel relegated to division 3, with who promoted to division 2?" Killoe won Division 3 with Clonguish 2nd. Can either team go up for Division 2 league? honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 06/07/2023 12:11:38 2492627 Link
Replying To Spinx: "Promotion and relegation from Division 2 was sorted last night. Rathcline officially secured promotion back to the top table while surprisingly Cashel got relegated to Division 3. I think they have become the first Senior Championship winning club to be playing Junior league football since Clonguish back in the early 90's. Anyone know what is going on out there? Surely they should have been good enough to stay in Division 2? They got an awful beating last night from Ballymore, who themselves were on a bad run." All straight forward in my own opinion, the big surprise for me is Colmcille only winning one league game. Most clubs pushed to the limit in the second round of the league due to so many games! I would not say Cashel going to Div 3 is a surprise at all, if big Andy is not playing they are a junior club, will struggle in the intermediate championship this year! Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 96 - 06/07/2023 12:29:08 2492632 Link
Replying To honda15: "Killoe won Division 3 with Clonguish 2nd. Can either team go up for Division 2 league?" Killoe have the choice to go up to Division 2 or stay where they are. We stay put regardless and Cashel come down regardless liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 253 - 06/07/2023 12:29:42 2492634 Link
Replying To honda15: "Killoe won Division 3 with Clonguish 2nd. Can either team go up for Division 2 league?" You'd imagine Killoe should be let go up. Once the clubs first team is not in the same division then I don't see why not. Granard played and won an Intermendiate Championship in 2002 whilst also playing in the Senior Championship that year. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1326 - 06/07/2023 12:38:36 2492637 Link
Replying To easycowboy: "So Seán Connollys/Colmcille relegated to division 2 with rathcline promoted. And Cashel relegated to division 3, with who promoted to division 2?" I believe that Connollys are relegated with Colm playing either Carrickedmond/Mostrim to determine the other spot. Bottom team in six team group automatically relegated with the 5th placed team in that group playing the bottom team in five team group to determine second relegated team. B&G (Longford) - Posts: 362 - 06/07/2023 12:39:36 2492638 Link
Replying To B&G: "I believe that Connollys are relegated with Colm playing either Carrickedmond/Mostrim to determine the other spot. Bottom team in six team group automatically relegated with the 5th placed team in that group playing the bottom team in five team group to determine second relegated team." Surely extremely unfair on carrickedmond/mostrim who didn't know finishing 5th meant they would be in the playoff. ballymore1967 (Longford) - Posts: 65 - 06/07/2023 20:50:12 2492757 Link
Replying To B&G: "I believe that Connollys are relegated with Colm playing either Carrickedmond/Mostrim to determine the other spot. Bottom team in six team group automatically relegated with the 5th placed team in that group playing the bottom team in five team group to determine second relegated team." That's what I thought was going to happen but it doesn't look like it is the way. The Mostrim/Granard game did not take place yesterday so that group has not being finished. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1326 - 06/07/2023 21:25:51 2492761 Link
Winner of ACFL Division 3 doesn't get promoted if they are a 2nd team. Ballymore won Division 3 last year and went up. Killoe won it in 2021, didn't go up. In 2020 it wasn't finished due to Covid. In 2019 Killoe won it, didn't go up. In 2018 Division 3 was split in two with Legan winning 3A and Ardagh Moydow winning 3B. Legan went up. In 2017 Colmcille won it, didn't go up. In 2016 Killoe won it, didn't go up. In 2015 Killoe won it, didn't go up. It's not a choice, it's a rule. According to the Leader, Colmcille are already relegated. link. Nothing in master fixtures or on the county site to indicate any playoff at any future point. LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 07/07/2023 10:55:44 2492832 Link
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Winner of ACFL Division 3 doesn't get promoted if they are a 2nd team. Ballymore won Division 3 last year and went up. Killoe won it in 2021, didn't go up. In 2020 it wasn't finished due to Covid. In 2019 Killoe won it, didn't go up. In 2018 Division 3 was split in two with Legan winning 3A and Ardagh Moydow winning 3B. Legan went up. In 2017 Colmcille won it, didn't go up. In 2016 Killoe won it, didn't go up. In 2015 Killoe won it, didn't go up. It's not a choice, it's a rule. According to the Leader, Colmcille are already relegated. link. Nothing in master fixtures or on the county site to indicate any playoff at any future point." Can you name the rule? It's a league which by definition has promotion and relegation. Over the years it has just been accepted that second teams can't go up but there is no rule preventing it. Why can a second team play intermediate championship but not Division 2? If Killoe or any other second team pushed their case to go up there would be no basis to prevent them liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 253 - 07/07/2023 11:28:22 2492850 Link
In other counties second teams have won promotion, so its definitely not a GAA rule. It could just be a County Board rule. It's a bit stupid if it is though, because if a team like Killoe walk Div 3 this year, they will do so again next year. I'm sure their players would like to get better challenges. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1326 - 07/07/2023 12:01:44 2492861 Link
I believe now Longford aren't the prganisers of the Fr Manning cup. I think the Leinster Council does. Anyway does anyone how many teams were in this year's Fr Manning Cup. Thanks leitrimforsam (Leitrim) - Posts: 85 - 09/07/2023 15:55:21 2493341 Link
With Mickey Graham stepping down as Cavan manager I wonder if he could be an option in Longford. He was considered previously before he went to Cavan. B&G (Longford) - Posts: 362 - 10/07/2023 19:54:20 2493676 Link
Longford must surely be reaching out to Mickey Graham now that he has left the cavan post easycowboy (Longford) - Posts: 28 - 11/07/2023 10:26:11 2493733 Link
Any reason given for Slashers receiving a walkover from Wolfe Tones in the first round of the hurling championship on Saturday last? keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 37 - 11/07/2023 10:54:41 2493736 Link
Replying To B&G: "With Mickey Graham stepping down as Cavan manager I wonder if he could be an option in Longford. He was considered previously before he went to Cavan." He won't take the Longford job, I believe he will take a top club side next year after his work with Ballnamore williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 418 - 11/07/2023 12:47:44 2493777 Link
Was over in Killoe this evening. Killoe impressive in the second half but still down plenty players. Slashers were very average and bar Dromard I can't see anyone in that group making any impact in the championship. Will killoe and mullinalaghta get to enact their gentleman's agreement now or does that only exist on this forum!!!!! ballymore1967 (Longford) - Posts: 65 - 12/07/2023 01:00:29 2493911 Link