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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: " Replying To liosbreac6265: "[quote=liosbreac6265: "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú: "Not heard that, crazy if true! If Connolly's are not going up, Ardagh Moydow are next in line (the 'normal season' line doesn't wash, everyone knew he rules and agreed to them before the season started). The key question is whether Connollys can't or won't go up. If a club suffers a big drop in numbers, it's not unreasonable to look at an exception, but it can't be up to individual clubs to arbitrarily decide and take positions. We saw enough of that sort of corruption with clubs who refused, or found workarounds to avoid, championship relegation in recent past. Killashee ended Division 2 with just a single win and a points difference of -126. There should be no argument about their drop and they should have no say in it. Here's a reminder of how Divisions 1 and 2 ended last year (tables are still on the county site). Division 1 (Group 1) Colmcille: 22 * Abbeylara: 17 Dromard: 15 Killoe: 15 Clonguish: 7 Rathcline: 1 Division 1 (Group 2) Mullinalaghta: 25 Longford Slashers: 19 Granard: 11 Carrickedmond: 9 Mostrim: 8 Fr Manning Gaels: 3 Division 2** Sean Connollys: 17 * Ardagh Moydow: 17 Kenagh: 15 Ballymahon: 13 Cashel: 10 Killashee: 2 ** * Division Winner Relegated" Who or what was corrupt? That is a big allegation to make" No response. Not the first time the c word has been thrown about by members of a certain club without any basis."]The issue of who refused to get relegated in the past was discussed at length on this forum just a few months ago. Suggest you go back and read it, or do some of your own research on the topic. Alternatively ask a dog in the street - They will fill you in. I'm not here to do that for you. Off you pop now."]For a stats guy I'd have thought you'd provide some evidence. Lots of clubs didn't go down but there is a difference between that and "corruption" like you have alleged liosbreac6265 (Longford)** - Posts: 255 - 08/03/2023 11:38:22 2462715 Link
Replying To liosbreac6265: " Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "[quote=liosbreac6265: "[quote=liosbreac6265: "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú: "Not heard that, crazy if true! If Connolly's are not going up, Ardagh Moydow are next in line (the 'normal season' line doesn't wash, everyone knew he rules and agreed to them before the season started). The key question is whether Connollys can't or won't go up. If a club suffers a big drop in numbers, it's not unreasonable to look at an exception, but it can't be up to individual clubs to arbitrarily decide and take positions. We saw enough of that sort of corruption with clubs who refused, or found workarounds to avoid, championship relegation in recent past. Killashee ended Division 2 with just a single win and a points difference of -126. There should be no argument about their drop and they should have no say in it. Here's a reminder of how Divisions 1 and 2 ended last year (tables are still on the county site). Division 1 (Group 1) Colmcille: 22 * Abbeylara: 17 Dromard: 15 Killoe: 15 Clonguish: 7 Rathcline: 1 Division 1 (Group 2) Mullinalaghta: 25 Longford Slashers: 19 Granard: 11 Carrickedmond: 9 Mostrim: 8 Fr Manning Gaels: 3 Division 2** Sean Connollys: 17 * Ardagh Moydow: 17 Kenagh: 15 Ballymahon: 13 Cashel: 10 Killashee: 2 ** * Division Winner Relegated" Who or what was corrupt? That is a big allegation to make" No response. Not the first time the c word has been thrown about by members of a certain club without any basis."]The issue of who refused to get relegated in the past was discussed at length on this forum just a few months ago. Suggest you go back and read it, or do some of your own research on the topic. Alternatively ask a dog in the street - They will fill you in. I'm not here to do that for you. Off you pop now."]For a stats guy I'd have thought you'd provide some evidence. Lots of clubs didn't go down but there is a difference between that and "corruption" like you have alleged"]Liosbreach6265. Are you and LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) not the same person. The response was identical to that of LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) earlier this morning. B&G (Longford)** - Posts: 367 - 08/03/2023 14:57:04 2462790 Link
Not the same person. The forum has a silly way of placing the previous posters comments at the start of your reply and not making it so easy to see which is which. LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 581 - 08/03/2023 20:09:04 2462881 Link
I was told the meeting about the fixtures was last night and that the groups in Division 1 are the same as last year with games to start some time in April. Does anyone know if that is true? Mull93 (Longford) - Posts: 119 - 08/03/2023 20:12:13 2462883 Link
Replying To Mull93: "I was told the meeting about the fixtures was last night and that the groups in Division 1 are the same as last year with games to start some time in April. Does anyone know if that is true?" So no promotion or relegation B&G (Longford) - Posts: 367 - 09/03/2023 11:58:34 2462947 Link
Replying To Mull93: "I was told the meeting about the fixtures was last night and that the groups in Division 1 are the same as last year with games to start some time in April. Does anyone know if that is true?" The County Board don't even know if that's true!! So Connollys and Killashee got their wish and Ardagh Moydow didn't get their cheeky request approved! Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 09/03/2023 13:53:01 2462978 Link
So can any one confirm what is actually happening with the leagues then? when you say Div 1 is staying the same as last year does that mean the same teams? Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 97 - 09/03/2023 14:07:31 2462986 Link
Replying To Spinx: "The County Board don't even know if that's true!! So Connollys and Killashee got their wish and Ardagh Moydow didn't get their cheeky request approved!" What request? Horsebox2020 (Longford) - Posts: 6 - 10/03/2023 13:12:46 2463187 Link
Replying To Horsebox2020: "What request?" Read my post on the previous page. I didn't think it was true but going by what Mull said above it looks like there was a good chance it was! Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 10/03/2023 16:39:31 2463257 Link
Well the fixtures are finally out!!! And just goes to show, you shouldn't believe everything you hear sitting on a high stool in the local at 11pm!! Ourselves and Rathcline down to Div 2 and Killashee to Div 3. Connollys up to Div 1 and Ballymore to Div 2 Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 10/03/2023 16:57:38 2463263 Link
Replying To Spinx: "Well the fixtures are finally out!!! And just goes to show, you shouldn't believe everything you hear sitting on a high stool in the local at 11pm!! Ourselves and Rathcline down to Div 2 and Killashee to Div 3. Connollys up to Div 1 and Ballymore to Div 2" Clonguish are in division 1??? slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 252 - 11/03/2023 13:50:40 2463352 Link
Replying To slasher9: "Clonguish are in division 1???" Yes they are because they didn't finish bottom of their group. Only the bottom team in each group were relegated. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 11/03/2023 20:31:14 2463435 Link
Replying To Spinx: "Well the fixtures are finally out!!! And just goes to show, you shouldn't believe everything you hear sitting on a high stool in the local at 11pm!! Ourselves and Rathcline down to Div 2 and Killashee to Div 3. Connollys up to Div 1 and Ballymore to Div 2" who came up with the Connollys B&G (Longford) - Posts: 367 - 12/03/2023 10:07:12 2463466 Link
Replying To Spinx: "Read my post on the previous page. I didn't think it was true but going by what Mull said above it looks like there was a good chance it was!" Don't believe everything you hear.......... Horsebox2020 (Longford) - Posts: 6 - 12/03/2023 11:47:24 2463472 Link
How did LongfordU-20's do yesterday. Was the final on yesterday B&G (Longford) - Posts: 367 - 12/03/2023 14:50:38 2463523 Link
Replying To Horsebox2020: "Don't believe everything you hear.........." Did I not just say that???!!!! Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 12/03/2023 17:29:23 2463553 Link
Replying To B&G: "who came up with the Connollys" No one. CB cutting numbers on senior league. Be same again this season. 1 up 2 down. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 12/03/2023 17:29:59 2463554 Link
Replying To Spinx: "No one. CB cutting numbers on senior league. Be same again this season. 1 up 2 down." Has that been confirmed? How will they do that. It was probably straightforward last year in that the bottom team in each group went down. This year you have a different amount of teams in each group. Maybe a playoff is the answer is the fairest way with second from bottom in the group with 6 playing the bottom team in the group with 5. If the County Board were more transparent and actually put this sort of stuff up on the website then it would make them look better in the long run. As it is people never know what is happening until it happens, or sometimes until the next season! Things I would like to see on the website: Bye-Laws - surely these are on a document and it wouldn't be hard to put them on website. How relegation, promotion etc. is going to be decided. Transfers - It would be interesting to see the movement each year within the county. We are 23 years into the 21st century and this sort of information still only goes out to the club secretaries. I'm certain that if this information was more easily available then it would reduce the needless queries that the County Board Secretary and Board members get. Mull93 (Longford) - Posts: 119 - 12/03/2023 17:45:44 2463559 Link
Replying To Mull93: "Has that been confirmed? How will they do that. It was probably straightforward last year in that the bottom team in each group went down. This year you have a different amount of teams in each group. Maybe a playoff is the answer is the fairest way with second from bottom in the group with 6 playing the bottom team in the group with 5. If the County Board were more transparent and actually put this sort of stuff up on the website then it would make them look better in the long run. As it is people never know what is happening until it happens, or sometimes until the next season! Things I would like to see on the website: Bye-Laws - surely these are on a document and it wouldn't be hard to put them on website. How relegation, promotion etc. is going to be decided. Transfers - It would be interesting to see the movement each year within the county. We are 23 years into the 21st century and this sort of information still only goes out to the club secretaries. I'm certain that if this information was more easily available then it would reduce the needless queries that the County Board Secretary and Board members get." I seen somewhere last year (I think it was on a Rathcline FB page) that the leagues were set for 2 years with 2 relegated and 1 promoted. As you said, it was more straight forward last year. This year, I am assuming bottom of the 6 team group will go down and the 2 5th place teams will play-off to see who else goes down. Div 1 will then have 10 teams next year and Div 2 will have 8. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 12/03/2023 18:30:43 2463568 Link
Replying To Mull93: "Has that been confirmed? How will they do that. It was probably straightforward last year in that the bottom team in each group went down. This year you have a different amount of teams in each group. Maybe a playoff is the answer is the fairest way with second from bottom in the group with 6 playing the bottom team in the group with 5. If the County Board were more transparent and actually put this sort of stuff up on the website then it would make them look better in the long run. As it is people never know what is happening until it happens, or sometimes until the next season! Things I would like to see on the website: Bye-Laws - surely these are on a document and it wouldn't be hard to put them on website. How relegation, promotion etc. is going to be decided. Transfers - It would be interesting to see the movement each year within the county. We are 23 years into the 21st century and this sort of information still only goes out to the club secretaries. I'm certain that if this information was more easily available then it would reduce the needless queries that the County Board Secretary and Board members get." I also agree 100% with you about League and Championship rules and the transfers been put up on the website. I have to say though, that our County website is an absolute shambles. Last year there was 2 separate ways of viewing the League tables. Both of them had different standings!!! One had the usual 2 points for a win 1 for a draw and the other one had the table with the new points system scored with without county players. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 12/03/2023 18:34:33 2463569 Link