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Replying To maximus02: "Yeah, it's just as well it is wasn't Mullinalaghta that were the team to lose out or it wouldn't have ended well." For no team is it a great situation Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1001 - 02/09/2024 17:57:23 2568100 Link
Replying To Gunner24: " Replying To B&G: "[quote=Gunner24: "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú: "Bye-laws have been on the county site for a good few weeks now (<a href="https://longfordgaa.ie/2024-bye-laws/">link</a>), so not sure this was a mess caused by officials. Happy to criticise the county board when it's warranted, but this one might be on everyone else for jumping to conclusions and not reading or applying the rules properly. If there was a phantom point in the Carrickedmond-Mullinalaghta game, it will be easy to verify on Clubber. If the ref's report doesn't match the evidence on Clubber then the county board will be required to take action. The days of a ref's report being final are numbered when the game is broadcast and in public domain for playback. If Mullinalaghta are awarded the win, the group changes to: Mullinalaghta Abbeylara Clonguish Dromard Carrickedmond Slashers That means the Quarter finals would be: A) Killoe-Dromard B) Mullinalaghta-Granard C) Colmcille-Clonguish D) Abbeylara-Rathcline Semis would be A-D and B-C. Lets see what clarity comes after the ref's report and any objection is reviewed this week. As someone else said, plenty of time to iron this out by the book before the quarter finals."</div>Did anyone re-watch the game and count the scores? Also, if Mullinalaghta do object, and are successful, I am sure Carrickedmond would appeal and hope for at least a rematch?" Can't see how it can be replayed. Both teams now know what is required to advance."]I would just be thinking if I were Carrickedmond, you'd argue that you play the game with one eye on the scoreboard. Aidan McGuire score a free towards the end where he clearly asked the ref did he need to go for goal and was obviously told there was time still to be played as he kick it over the bar."]This is the crux. They definitely can't award the game to Mullinalaghta because Carrickedmond and indeed Mullinalaghta played an entire half of football with the understanding that the score was the score. The difference between being 1 or 2 points down with a minute to go in a game that you only need to draw is huge from a tactical point of view. The fact that the actual score was incorrect though is hugely unfair on Dromard, so they will have to do something, assuming Mullinalaghta appeal, although it is beyond me how it is always left to someone to appeal when the authorities can clearly see there is an error. Going to be interesting but I'm predicting a replay where Mullinalaghta come from 7 pts down to draw with the last kick of the game.!!! GAALONGFORD (Longford) - Posts: 36 - 02/09/2024 20:02:55 2568112 Link
Surely the county board should be releasing a statement or correspondence to all the clubs affected as to what the situation is. There is a fear in the other clubs that this will drag on and cause games to be pushed out, it has to be acknowledged as a partner of Longford gaa recorded game so its recording is totally neutral, carrickedmond 100% won't accept the result being reversed without an opportunity to replay. #Putitup (Longford) - Posts: 49 - 02/09/2024 23:33:33 2568140 Link
Can someone explain the current lie of the land with the Quarter finals? Has a decision been made on who is down for relegation and who is confirmed for quarter finals and what the pairings are? Is there an appeals process for clubs and when are the quarter finals due to be played? Messy situation by the looks and sounds of it. Always going to be harsh on at least 1 or 2 teams. Rossfan93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 88 - 03/09/2024 09:34:04 2568159 Link
Replying To Rossfan93: "Can someone explain the current lie of the land with the Quarter finals? Has a decision been made on who is down for relegation and who is confirmed for quarter finals and what the pairings are? Is there an appeals process for clubs and when are the quarter finals due to be played? Messy situation by the looks and sounds of it. Always going to be harsh on at least 1 or 2 teams." Boyle V Castlerea St Kevins & St Faithleach's V North Ros are in the Championship play off round prior to QF Dominics and Tulsk are in Relegation playoff. Matches scheduled next weekend I think. Jack L (None) - Posts: 3191 - 03/09/2024 10:54:35 2568172 Link
As an observed looking in from the outside and with no affiliation to any team in the competition I think the referee's report will stand . Go back to the Meath goal against South in that dramatic Leinster final. The whole world saw what happened but the referee's report was all that mattered. I don't think anything has changed since except that Meath football might have won the Leinster but have been in the doldrums since eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 2233 - 03/09/2024 11:01:07 2568174 Link
Replying To eoinog: "As an observed looking in from the outside and with no affiliation to any team in the competition I think the referee's report will stand . Go back to the Meath goal against South in that dramatic Leinster final. The whole world saw what happened but the referee's report was all that mattered. I don't think anything has changed since except that Meath football might have won the Leinster but have been in the doldrums since" The gaa still has it's lack of integrity and just ignore what is the right thing to do. Happening all the country. No better organisation for been selective with there rules. But I guess rules are made to be broken Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 357 - 03/09/2024 11:38:59 2568182 Link
Replying To Thejampot: "The gaa still has it's lack of integrity and just ignore what is the right thing to do. Happening all the country. No better organisation for been selective with there rules. But I guess rules are made to be broken" It had improved but few incident throw integrity into question again recently. I agree there's a right Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1001 - 03/09/2024 11:56:11 2568189 Link
Replying To eoinog: "As an observed looking in from the outside and with no affiliation to any team in the competition I think the referee's report will stand . Go back to the Meath goal against South in that dramatic Leinster final. The whole world saw what happened but the referee's report was all that mattered. I don't think anything has changed since except that Meath football might have won the Leinster but have been in the doldrums since" Probably agree because that ref as well doesn't like admit he maybe wrong Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1001 - 03/09/2024 11:57:00 2568190 Link
Replying To eoinog: "As an observed looking in from the outside and with no affiliation to any team in the competition I think the referee's report will stand . Go back to the Meath goal against South in that dramatic Leinster final. The whole world saw what happened but the referee's report was all that mattered. I don't think anything has changed since except that Meath football might have won the Leinster but have been in the doldrums since" Completely different scenario, the meath goal was a foul yes, but plenty of fouls get missed during a game with no recourse. Didn't something similar to this happen in Kildare championship this year, what was outcome? I feel this could drag on and on. reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 379 - 03/09/2024 12:23:03 2568195 Link
It'll be a replay I would expect. The sooner that's realised, the less things will get delayed by. It would be funny if it was and ended in a draw again. Rockshorecider (Longford) - Posts: 71 - 03/09/2024 12:36:17 2568196 Link
Replying To reffingmad: "Completely different scenario, the meath goal was a foul yes, but plenty of fouls get missed during a game with no recourse. Didn't something similar to this happen in Kildare championship this year, what was outcome? I feel this could drag on and on." Yes and replay was ordered but was earlier round in their competition can a replay be ordered here? Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1001 - 03/09/2024 12:58:57 2568204 Link
Replying To reffingmad: "Completely different scenario, the meath goal was a foul yes, but plenty of fouls get missed during a game with no recourse. Didn't something similar to this happen in Kildare championship this year, what was outcome? I feel this could drag on and on." Different situation in Kildare if you mean the Nurney-Straffan match. That match was winner-on-the-day (classification rather than knockout but nevertheless there had to be a result). Straffan were given the extra point, except that in this case the scoreboard was changed in the middle of the second half rather than at the very beginning, so the error was immediately obvious even to casual observers. Straffan "won" on the day with the benefit of the non-existent point, but if the score had been correctly recorded, then it would have been level at the end of normal time and the game would have gone to extra time. As a result, Nurney (who were the injured party in that case, just as Mullinalaghta are the injured party in this one) were deprived of the opportunity to complete the original tie so they objected and a replay was justified and granted. TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 161 - 03/09/2024 13:21:21 2568208 Link
The ref's report will be final and I think the initial decision will put Carrickedmond through and then the Dromard appeal can come from that point. This championship now looks like it will be delayed and what a mess and embarrassment that is for everyone involved. It still doesn't affect that Killoe are going to win the championship as shown by the odds coming in to 11/10. They'll be much shorter than that once they win their qtr final also. Clonbonnyrabbitt (Longford) - Posts: 82 - 03/09/2024 13:24:01 2568209 Link
The Louth-Meath final and Joe Sheridan's goal are also not relevant because it's not a question here of a disputed score; in this case the score very clearly never happened and the good-faith explanation is a calculation error. A referee's report is considered to be definitive in the absence of compelling evidence and in this case there is very clearly compelling evidence in the shape of a recording of the entire game by a neutral party. TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 161 - 03/09/2024 13:26:18 2568210 Link
Replying To Gaaforlife2023: "Yes and replay was ordered but was earlier round in their competition can a replay be ordered here?" A replay would be very unfair on Mullinalaghta, as they technically won the game and i'm sure they would accept the draw as a result over a replay as they risk being knocked out completely. maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 217 - 03/09/2024 14:09:38 2568224 Link
I may be a long way off on what I suggest, but couldn't the standings be left as they are? Then have Dromard play off against Carrickedmond for the last Q/F spot. Everybody gets another shot at it. Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 206 - 03/09/2024 14:18:41 2568227 Link
Replying To Gaaforlife2023: "Yes and replay was ordered but was earlier round in their competition can a replay be ordered here?" A replay would be very unfair on Mullinalaghta, as they technically won the game and i'm sure they would accept the draw as a result over a replay as they risk being knocked out completely. maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 217 - 03/09/2024 14:26:54 2568229 Link
Replying To Clonbonnyrabbitt: "The ref's report will be final and I think the initial decision will put Carrickedmond through and then the Dromard appeal can come from that point. This championship now looks like it will be delayed and what a mess and embarrassment that is for everyone involved. It still doesn't affect that Killoe are going to win the championship as shown by the odds coming in to 11/10. They'll be much shorter than that once they win their qtr final also." Dromard can't appeal a game that they aren't involved in? williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 512 - 03/09/2024 14:28:54 2568230 Link
Replying To Clonbonnyrabbitt: "The ref's report will be final and I think the initial decision will put Carrickedmond through and then the Dromard appeal can come from that point. This championship now looks like it will be delayed and what a mess and embarrassment that is for everyone involved. It still doesn't affect that Killoe are going to win the championship as shown by the odds coming in to 11/10. They'll be much shorter than that once they win their qtr final also." Dromard are not allowed to appeal I don't think as they were not directly involved in match. maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 217 - 03/09/2024 14:28:58 2568231 Link