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Replying To B&G:  "Clonguish were beaten finalists last year. They are coming into form at the right time.
Seems that they timed it in the group of death."
Know they're beaten finalists last year, not surprised they won just the margin.

Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 185 - 26/08/2024 00:34:17    2566805

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Replying To Bluelake:  "What happened to Dromard this evening ?"
Clonguish finally kicked into gear. Clonguish are the only team capable of competing with Killoe when they hit top form. Decent chance that both those teams could end up playing in the quarter final now. Clonguish still have to do the business against Abbey next weekend which is no guarantee though. Dromard looked like a team on their last legs last night, you'd have to fancy slashers to knock them out now.

maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 211 - 26/08/2024 09:04:25    2566824

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Replying To maximus02:  "Clonguish finally kicked into gear. Clonguish are the only team capable of competing with Killoe when they hit top form. Decent chance that both those teams could end up playing in the quarter final now. Clonguish still have to do the business against Abbey next weekend which is no guarantee though. Dromard looked like a team on their last legs last night, you'd have to fancy slashers to knock them out now."
Probably correct. Good win slashers albeit mullinalaghta were poor but good attiude with players they are missing if they have some back they should qualify for qf and would be threat

Clonguish probably main threat but kiloes to lose probably

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 26/08/2024 11:59:17    2566908

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Probably correct. Good win slashers albeit mullinalaghta were poor but good attiude with players they are missing if they have some back they should qualify for qf and would be threat

Clonguish probably main threat but kiloes to lose probably"
Carrickedmond can't be wrote off in that game with Mullinaghta, great credit to them they have only lost 1 game which was the 1st one against Dromard and will be kicking themselves now as could have and should have bet both Abbey and Slashers. Clonguish will put a big score on Abbeylara with their form back at its best yesterday, 2 flynn brothers stood out and Carey on frees hard to see them looking back now.
I think edworthstown could sneak in to last spot in their group plus colmcille to be in last 4, nobody is mentioning them and they still have top quality in the group.

#Putitup (Longford) - Posts: 49 - 26/08/2024 15:13:24    2566969

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Qualifiers for QF
Group A
Killoe
Rathcline
Colmcille
Granard

Group B (No particular order)
Abbeylara
Clonguish
Longford Slashers
Mullinaughta/Carrickedmond

B&G (Longford) - Posts: 366 - 26/08/2024 15:48:11    2566977

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Who would qualify if carrickedmond and mull draw and get to 5 points and clonguish win and are on 5 too? This is presuming slashers win and are on 6 and abbey are already on 6. Mull and Carrick have already beaten Clonguish.

maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 211 - 26/08/2024 15:48:14    2566978

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Replying To maximus02:  "Who would qualify if carrickedmond and mull draw and get to 5 points and clonguish win and are on 5 too? This is presuming slashers win and are on 6 and abbey are already on 6. Mull and Carrick have already beaten Clonguish."
"11. COMPETITIONS
Where Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, for placings on a
Competition League Table, or for Promotion or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the following
means and in the order specified:
(i). Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous
game(s) in the Competition.
(ii). Where three or more teams are involved - the Team (if any) which defeated each of the other Teams
on equal points in the previous games in the Competition.
(iii). Scoring Difference from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied on points) have
played each other (subtracting the value of the total Scores Against from the value of the total Scores
For).
(iv). Value of Highest Total Scores For, from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied on
points) have played each other.
(v). Highest number of Total Scores For, from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied on
points) have played each other.
(vi). Highest number of Goals Scored For, from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied
on points) have played each other.
(vii). A Play-Off
The above formula, with the exception of (i), (ii) and (iii), in the order as specified, shall apply in the
event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification,
loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover."

TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 161 - 26/08/2024 18:08:28    2567018

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Did dromard put out there junior team weekend

drunkensailor (Longford) - Posts: 83 - 26/08/2024 20:40:44    2567035

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Replying To TurnipAyter:  ""11. COMPETITIONS
Where Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, for placings on a
Competition League Table, or for Promotion or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the following
means and in the order specified:
(i). Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous
game(s) in the Competition.
(ii). Where three or more teams are involved - the Team (if any) which defeated each of the other Teams
on equal points in the previous games in the Competition.
(iii). Scoring Difference from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied on points) have
played each other (subtracting the value of the total Scores Against from the value of the total Scores
For).
(iv). Value of Highest Total Scores For, from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied on
points) have played each other.
(v). Highest number of Total Scores For, from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied on
points) have played each other.
(vi). Highest number of Goals Scored For, from the game(s) in which only the teams involved (teams tied
on points) have played each other.
(vii). A Play-Off
The above formula, with the exception of (i), (ii) and (iii), in the order as specified, shall apply in the
event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification,
loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover.""
Above from the Longford Bye-Laws 2024.

From the general Code 2024:

"(e) If a Championship is partly organised on a League basis, the following Regulations
shall apply:
(i) League results shall be credited as follows: 2 points for a win, and one for a draw.
(ii) If a Team is Disqualified or Retires during the course of the League Stage, its
played Games shall stand and its unplayed Games shall be awarded to the
Opposing Teams.
(iii) A County Committee may make regulations, setting out criteria to rank teams
which finish with equal points. In default, a tie shall be decided by the application
of the following criteria in the order specified:
(1) The higher number of League Points obtained in the 'Head-to-Head' games
defined as the games in which the teams involved in the tie have played each
other.
(2) The higher Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total
Scores For) in the 'Head-to-Head' games.
(3) The higher Scores For in the 'Head-to- Head' games.
(4) If, having applied criteria (1) to (3) inclusive, there are still teams with an equal
ranking, criteria (i) to (iii) are applied to the 'Head to Head' games between the
teams which remain tied.
(5) The higher Scoring Difference in all games in the League Group.
(6) The higher Scores For in all games in the League Group.
(7) A Play-Off.
Games Awarded Without Score (e.g., a walk -over) Involved in a Tie-Breaker
Team Awarded Game.
Its 'Average Score For' and 'Average Score Against' achieved in games played (
in Head-to-Head or All the Group, as applicable) shall be added to its 'Score
For' and 'Scores Against' totals.
Team Against whom Game was Awarded.
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It shall have zero added to its 'Score For'. Its 'Average Score Against' conceded
in games played (in Head-to-Head or All Group, as applicable) shall be added
to its 'Score Against' total."

I'm sure there's absolutely no possibility for litigation if the "wrong" team were to end up in the relegation play-off spot, but I still think it's an unlikely situation to begin with.

TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 161 - 26/08/2024 21:01:55    2567041

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Replying To TurnipAyter:  "Above from the Longford Bye-Laws 2024.

From the general Code 2024:

"(e) If a Championship is partly organised on a League basis, the following Regulations
shall apply:
(i) League results shall be credited as follows: 2 points for a win, and one for a draw.
(ii) If a Team is Disqualified or Retires during the course of the League Stage, its
played Games shall stand and its unplayed Games shall be awarded to the
Opposing Teams.
(iii) A County Committee may make regulations, setting out criteria to rank teams
which finish with equal points. In default, a tie shall be decided by the application
of the following criteria in the order specified:
(1) The higher number of League Points obtained in the 'Head-to-Head' games
defined as the games in which the teams involved in the tie have played each
other.
(2) The higher Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total
Scores For) in the 'Head-to-Head' games.
(3) The higher Scores For in the 'Head-to- Head' games.
(4) If, having applied criteria (1) to (3) inclusive, there are still teams with an equal
ranking, criteria (i) to (iii) are applied to the 'Head to Head' games between the
teams which remain tied.
(5) The higher Scoring Difference in all games in the League Group.
(6) The higher Scores For in all games in the League Group.
(7) A Play-Off.
Games Awarded Without Score (e.g., a walk -over) Involved in a Tie-Breaker
Team Awarded Game.
Its 'Average Score For' and 'Average Score Against' achieved in games played (
in Head-to-Head or All the Group, as applicable) shall be added to its 'Score
For' and 'Scores Against' totals.
Team Against whom Game was Awarded.
21 GAA OFFICIAL CODES
Codes
It shall have zero added to its 'Score For'. Its 'Average Score Against' conceded
in games played (in Head-to-Head or All Group, as applicable) shall be added
to its 'Score Against' total."

I'm sure there's absolutely no possibility for litigation if the "wrong" team were to end up in the relegation play-off spot, but I still think it's an unlikely situation to begin with."
Who would you consider to be the "wrong" team?

Clonbonnyrabbitt (Longford) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2024 10:52:57    2567087

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Replying To Clonbonnyrabbitt:  "Who would you consider to be the "wrong" team?"
That has me puzzled as well. Obviously he has a chip on his shoulder with one of the 5 teams in group 2 apart from Abbeylara!!

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 200 - 27/08/2024 11:26:09    2567097

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Replying To Clonbonnyrabbitt:  "Who would you consider to be the "wrong" team?"
Think meansif they got rules of it wrong in fairness don't think he meant wrong team so to speak

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 27/08/2024 11:42:51    2567102

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Replying To Frank74:  "That has me puzzled as well. Obviously he has a chip on his shoulder with one of the 5 teams in group 2 apart from Abbeylara!!"
Maybe or are they saying if rules or order rules were applied wrong

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 27/08/2024 11:43:44    2567103

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Replying To Frank74:  "That has me puzzled as well. Obviously he has a chip on his shoulder with one of the 5 teams in group 2 apart from Abbeylara!!"
Think people reading too much into what he said

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 27/08/2024 11:44:35    2567105

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Cool the jets a little, lads.

If there's any ambiguity in a situation like that, then there will be plenty of would-be lawyers trying to challenge it (and you could have a four-way tie on five points if the Slashers-Dromard match ends in a draw or in a win for Dromard). Cloonbonny rabbits need not be concerned given that Rathcline have their fate entirely in their own hands (or should that be paws).

TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 161 - 27/08/2024 12:28:25    2567116

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Clonguish back in the groove. It's going to be a battle between them and Abbey at the weekend. Abbey will want that top spot and it's a knockout game for Clonguish. When the Duggan-Carey combination and the Flynn brothers all kick into action it's a force of nature - very difficult to handle that firepower.

Round 5 Predictions:
Kenagh v Killoe = Killoe
Mullinalaghta v Carrickedmond = Carrickedmond
Dromard v Slashers = Draw
Abbey v Clonguish = Clonguish
Rathcline v Colmcille = Colmcille
Mostrim v Granard = Granard

In 2015 Killoe were the 8th and last team to qualify for the knockout stages having lost 2 of their 3 group games and only got through via a playoff with Ballymahon for the last spot - Went on to win the title! Looking strong this year but that Clonguish train has just roared back to life, so lots of twists and turns left in this championship IMO!

Group B must have set a record for number of draws in a single championship!

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 580 - 27/08/2024 12:48:12    2567122

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Maybe or are they saying if rules or order rules were applied wrong"
Basically, any of the 5 teams can still go through or gey knocked out. So all 5 teams have to go for the win on Saturday or risk being eliminated.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1345 - 27/08/2024 13:11:56    2567126

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Replying To Clonbonnyrabbitt:  "Who would you consider to be the "wrong" team?"
I think he clearly means clonguish

Rockshorecider (Longford) - Posts: 54 - 27/08/2024 13:54:38    2567142

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Replying To Spinx:  "Basically, any of the 5 teams can still go through or gey knocked out. So all 5 teams have to go for the win on Saturday or risk being eliminated."
Longford Slashers, Mullinalaghta and Carrickedmond all have it in their own hands. Should any of them win they are safely through. Clonguish and dromard can go through with wins so long as other results don't go against them. Granard and Mostrim is affectively a preliminary quarter final and should be fairly frantic too with it being a knockout game. I can't see Abbey not doing anything except going all out to win on Saturday against Clonguish they will still want top spot in the group. Slashers will find it very tight against Dromard who are way better than they showed against Clonguish and Carrick have been pulling out surprises all year so plenty to play for. Killoe are still well ahead of the pack, they'll be fresh for a quarter final.

Clonbonnyrabbitt (Longford) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2024 14:24:55    2567152

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Replying To Spinx:  "Basically, any of the 5 teams can still go through or gey knocked out. So all 5 teams have to go for the win on Saturday or risk being eliminated."
Yes, I think both Carrickedmond and Mullinalaghta will be going for the win which is why I said I thought it an unlikely situation to begin with.

At that point we can return to normal service on here with the Killoe and Clonguish supporters each talking up their rivals.

TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 161 - 27/08/2024 14:32:55    2567156

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