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Replying To bláthach: "I don't want to have a case at all. No need to make it personal. So why are these teams not participating?? I think there is more to it and I won't be dissuaded. Thanks" You think what you want, don't let me stop you... Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1353 - 03/06/2025 15:33:17 2614606 Link
Replying To Square_B: "You think what you want, don't let me stop you..." I won't thanks for the go ahead. bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 132 - 03/06/2025 16:42:03 2614637 Link
Replying To bláthach: "What about the other cities in USA then?? Why New York as opposed to Boston? Or Chicago?? What about European cities?? You still have not answered that- I am sure there are players there who would love to be parachuted in to the thing but they don't get the option as they are not New York peoples yes." It is the New York county board that put the team. In would be up to the other county boards to get an application into play at intercounty level. But numbers and logistics make this possible. But looking at what teams could compete logistical on an annual basis. Eg If Europe (that's the county board) wanted to put in a team perhaps the could get a squad of county standard players but the logistics would be a nightmare. Possibly they could get a team to compete at junior level. (No European city or even country would be close to intercounty standard). Chicago possibly could field a team but to consistently get a team together would probably be a slog. New York have developed a structure to allow them compete. If others got similar structures and played off to get into the championship it would be a great development but I would think that they are quite a bit away from that. Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 200 - 03/06/2025 20:27:01 2614669 Link
Replying To Backheel: "It is the New York county board that put the team. In would be up to the other county boards to get an application into play at intercounty level. But numbers and logistics make this possible. But looking at what teams could compete logistical on an annual basis. Eg If Europe (that's the county board) wanted to put in a team perhaps the could get a squad of county standard players but the logistics would be a nightmare. Possibly they could get a team to compete at junior level. (No European city or even country would be close to intercounty standard). Chicago possibly could field a team but to consistently get a team together would probably be a slog. New York have developed a structure to allow them compete. If others got similar structures and played off to get into the championship it would be a great development but I would think that they are quite a bit away from that." Exactly but everything is straight forward according to some on these forums. You'd wonder has any of these people been involved in a GAA club at all or in any aspect of how an organisation is run.... Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1353 - 04/06/2025 11:19:15 2614763 Link
Ny don't have county standard players either but they magically appeared on the panel when they played Leitrim. Funny that. People seem to have forgotten. boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 335 - 04/06/2025 13:45:15 2614836 Link
So if New York fund the team etc as some people think here, why are the GAA scared of becoming bankrupt if other teams join in? Seemingly it doesn't cost them anything. bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 132 - 04/06/2025 13:50:49 2614841 Link
Replying To bláthach: "So if New York fund the team etc as some people think here, why are the GAA scared of becoming bankrupt if other teams join in? Seemingly it doesn't cost them anything." Do you know anything about the organisation you purport to support? Right at the start of this nonsensical conversation about NY I told you that Central Council fund a proportion (not all) of the expenses that NY occur coming over to play games in Ireland. I'll tell you what, have a listen to the GAA Social podcast this morning and Johnny Glynn will tell you roughly how much the recent Lory Meagher trip to Ireland cost NY... and then he'll tell you how much NY spend on travel etc for the various teams that come to Ireland over the course of the year and what they do to raise that money and the challenges they come up against. And then have a think about what that would mean if you added in places such as Australia, Asia, Middle East & Europe and perhaps then looked to increase the amount of games these units would play on a yearly basis. At the end of the day, it's up to these units to come forth with proposals if they want to enter teams in a championship and that includes how it would be funded & organised. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1353 - 04/06/2025 14:54:21 2614870 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Do you know anything about the organisation you purport to support? Right at the start of this nonsensical conversation about NY I told you that Central Council fund a proportion (not all) of the expenses that NY occur coming over to play games in Ireland. I'll tell you what, have a listen to the GAA Social podcast this morning and Johnny Glynn will tell you roughly how much the recent Lory Meagher trip to Ireland cost NY... and then he'll tell you how much NY spend on travel etc for the various teams that come to Ireland over the course of the year and what they do to raise that money and the challenges they come up against. And then have a think about what that would mean if you added in places such as Australia, Asia, Middle East & Europe and perhaps then looked to increase the amount of games these units would play on a yearly basis. At the end of the day, it's up to these units to come forth with proposals if they want to enter teams in a championship and that includes how it would be funded & organised." So based on all that it's ok to jettison us (or whatever other county) and parachute them in?? That's fair enough so. bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 132 - 04/06/2025 18:32:33 2614930 Link
Replying To bláthach: "So based on all that it's ok to jettison us (or whatever other county) and parachute them in?? That's fair enough so." We won 1 game out of 11 this season. Don't deserve to be playing anymore. SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 419 - 04/06/2025 18:48:50 2614931 Link
Replying To SeanMacDiarmada: "We won 1 game out of 11 this season. Don't deserve to be playing anymore." There's a good few teams in the position that they don't deserve to be playing anymore...but Leitrim are the only ones being thrown aside to allow another team to be parachuted in boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 335 - 04/06/2025 21:18:41 2614948 Link
Replying To bláthach: "So based on all that it's ok to jettison us (or whatever other county) and parachute them in?? That's fair enough so." Do you think there would be much motivation for the likes of NY to train all year for one game in the Tailteann unless it was the carrot of a preliminary quarter final (not even a quarter final spot)? Or do you think the likes of NY would even be able to play three rounds of a league format over the course of 4/5 weeks unless some games were played in NY or over a shorter period of time perhaps? And the cost of all that? Let's get real... Leitrim and every other team knew what was expected of them when the competition started. I don't really see the issue with accommodating NY, based on reality, in order to try and keep interest in the games over there. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1353 - 04/06/2025 21:52:33 2614952 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "There's a good few teams in the position that they don't deserve to be playing anymore...but Leitrim are the only ones being thrown aside to allow another team to be parachuted in" it was known from the get go that scraping a win on the final day would not be enough if we did not keep it tighter against Kildare. We achieved it vs Sligo and probably deserved at least a draw but we left with nothing and that was it, we were always gonna struggle against the top seed teams based on our league performances, worst scoring difference speaks for itself. Personally I am in favour of the jeopardy as that is why the Sam Maguire format changes next year, sneaking your way to the last 12 with one win against a disinterested team way off the pace fools no-one, you would be found out for the level you are at in the next round and unfortunately that was us this year. i don't think the TC needs to go to same format of the SM though, teams at this level need that extra game especially us gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 642 - 04/06/2025 23:03:45 2614965 Link
Replying To gaelsboy: "it was known from the get go that scraping a win on the final day would not be enough if we did not keep it tighter against Kildare. We achieved it vs Sligo and probably deserved at least a draw but we left with nothing and that was it, we were always gonna struggle against the top seed teams based on our league performances, worst scoring difference speaks for itself. Personally I am in favour of the jeopardy as that is why the Sam Maguire format changes next year, sneaking your way to the last 12 with one win against a disinterested team way off the pace fools no-one, you would be found out for the level you are at in the next round and unfortunately that was us this year. i don't think the TC needs to go to same format of the SM though, teams at this level need that extra game especially us" That's true. And our display doesn't deserve continuing further in comp, however we don't deserve to lose our place to a team half taking part in the comp boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 335 - 05/06/2025 08:58:35 2614991 Link
Love the knocking of NY in the competition. I'd say if Leitrim were still in comp and were drawn against NY, You wouldn't have the same opinion.. You would be delighted SligoScot (Sligo) - Posts: 59 - 05/06/2025 10:05:45 2615002 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Do you think there would be much motivation for the likes of NY to train all year for one game in the Tailteann unless it was the carrot of a preliminary quarter final (not even a quarter final spot)? Or do you think the likes of NY would even be able to play three rounds of a league format over the course of 4/5 weeks unless some games were played in NY or over a shorter period of time perhaps? And the cost of all that? Let's get real... Leitrim and every other team knew what was expected of them when the competition started. I don't really see the issue with accommodating NY, based on reality, in order to try and keep interest in the games over there." Ah I suppose that is all true in fairness- keep the yanks happy and sure everything is grand!! If a preliminary quarter final in a secondary competition is what keeps them happy GAA wise I must say they are easily pleased!! I am sure it is what every Gael in New York dreams about!! bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 132 - 05/06/2025 10:24:57 2615013 Link
Replying To SligoScot: "Love the knocking of NY in the competition. I'd say if Leitrim were still in comp and were drawn against NY, You wouldn't have the same opinion.. You would be delighted" Ye have enough problems of your own without coming in here to discuss ours!! bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 132 - 05/06/2025 11:53:12 2615037 Link
Replying To bláthach: "Ah I suppose that is all true in fairness- keep the yanks happy and sure everything is grand!! If a preliminary quarter final in a secondary competition is what keeps them happy GAA wise I must say they are easily pleased!! I am sure it is what every Gael in New York dreams about!!" What would you suggest that the GAA do so? Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1353 - 05/06/2025 12:18:02 2615045 Link
Replying To Square_B: "What would you suggest that the GAA do so?" "mAke them trAvel foR groUp games!" Dunno who they think is gonna for the bill for that, this is not the Club World Cup. As Jonny Glynn said after the hurling win, they are only complaining when they are winning or taking the place of another team, when they were beat out the gate in competitions and no backdoor no-one complained, glad of the easy route to the next round and a jollier to NY for a weekend. I have good time for NY and hope they give a good accord of themselves vs Offaly. gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 642 - 05/06/2025 12:53:36 2615055 Link
Replying To Square_B: "What would you suggest that the GAA do so?" About what? bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 132 - 05/06/2025 13:22:45 2615070 Link
Replying To gaelsboy: ""mAke them trAvel foR groUp games!" Dunno who they think is gonna for the bill for that, this is not the Club World Cup. As Jonny Glynn said after the hurling win, they are only complaining when they are winning or taking the place of another team, when they were beat out the gate in competitions and no backdoor no-one complained, glad of the easy route to the next round and a jollier to NY for a weekend. I have good time for NY and hope they give a good accord of themselves vs Offaly." Exactly... the GAA can't win. Likewise I have good time for what NY are doing to promote the games stateside and hope they do well at the weekend. It's clear there's lots of folk here still bitter from when NY bet us. We only had ourselves to blame for that. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1353 - 05/06/2025 13:30:50 2615073 Link