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Replying To gaelsboy: "Dunno why you are engaging with this fool Jimmy. Eslin will be kings of junior b before long. Annaduff nearly tore up the script on Saturday apparently, hopefully they will avoid the drop and build on a credible championship so far but I am sure they are disappointed to not be in a quarter next weekend, plus Manor have McNulty back so will fight tooth and nail to avoid the drop. Any surprises predicted for next weekend? ." 'Come, Gentlemen, I hope we shall drink down all unkindness' eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 02/09/2024 12:59:47 2568014 Link
Very costly goal conceded by Annaduff on Saturday evening in injury time after playing their best football. A few incidents were overlooked by match officials but the standout is how the Mohill manager is allowed to carry on with his antics constantly on the sideline and is not pulled by linesman/referee, it's not the first time I have seen this happen. lecture250 (Leitrim) - Posts: 131 - 02/09/2024 13:20:35 2568023 Link
Replying To Hatchetman76: "Eslins Junior A campaign has made eslinchickenmaryland lose the plot" I doubt very much he is an Eslin man. Didn't see any post to date where he mentioned them. leitrimlad15 (Leitrim) - Posts: 108 - 02/09/2024 15:10:12 2568052 Link
Replying To leitrimlad15: "I doubt very much he is an Eslin man. Didn't see any post to date where he mentioned them." 'Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt.' eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 02/09/2024 16:18:29 2568067 Link
Replying To lecture250: "Very costly goal conceded by Annaduff on Saturday evening in injury time after playing their best football. A few incidents were overlooked by match officials but the standout is how the Mohill manager is allowed to carry on with his antics constantly on the sideline and is not pulled by linesman/referee, it's not the first time I have seen this happen." Agreed. Was at the same in their other home game. Speaking to some Mohill supporters they were very embarassed. Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 324 - 02/09/2024 16:22:29 2568068 Link
Was at an u17 game there in Aughavas with St Joesphs playing Leitrim Village in division 2. St Joesphs came out on top by 2 with a powerful late surge to win it. I know it is division 2 and the likes of St Marys, Manor and Annaduff who have a great underage coming up are in division one but how can rural teams challenge these "bigger teams" when it comes to senior football even when amalgamated at an underage level. Is the target for these teams such as Carrigallen, Aughavas, Drumkeerin, Kilturbid ect ect an intermediate title at most and avoiding the drop from a division 1 league? How can clubs make Leitrim Senior Championship competitive to all or is it going to be the same bigger teams competing for the next few years? thepunisher (Leitrim) - Posts: 3 - 02/09/2024 20:46:00 2568117 Link
Replying To thepunisher: "Was at an u17 game there in Aughavas with St Joesphs playing Leitrim Village in division 2. St Joesphs came out on top by 2 with a powerful late surge to win it. I know it is division 2 and the likes of St Marys, Manor and Annaduff who have a great underage coming up are in division one but how can rural teams challenge these "bigger teams" when it comes to senior football even when amalgamated at an underage level. Is the target for these teams such as Carrigallen, Aughavas, Drumkeerin, Kilturbid ect ect an intermediate title at most and avoiding the drop from a division 1 league? How can clubs make Leitrim Senior Championship competitive to all or is it going to be the same bigger teams competing for the next few years?" Three of those clubs you mentioned have villages or towns, they are hardly rural. Things change, Mohill couldn't get a look at a championship for a generation or more for example and they always had good underage teams at that stage. eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 03/09/2024 09:36:19 2568160 Link
Replying To thepunisher: "Was at an u17 game there in Aughavas with St Joesphs playing Leitrim Village in division 2. St Joesphs came out on top by 2 with a powerful late surge to win it. I know it is division 2 and the likes of St Marys, Manor and Annaduff who have a great underage coming up are in division one but how can rural teams challenge these "bigger teams" when it comes to senior football even when amalgamated at an underage level. Is the target for these teams such as Carrigallen, Aughavas, Drumkeerin, Kilturbid ect ect an intermediate title at most and avoiding the drop from a division 1 league? How can clubs make Leitrim Senior Championship competitive to all or is it going to be the same bigger teams competing for the next few years?" To be honest it's swings and roundabouts. You can see Annaduff will be one of the top dogs in a few years time with their underage success. Bornacoola and Gortletteragh will also be vastly improved off the back of their underage teams consistently playing in division 1. Possibly harder to measure how successful they will be compared to Annaduff as they are operating as a amalgamation. Mohill one of the top teams in Leitrim for the past 15 years will see a decline as their underage teams are operating at div 2/3. Some also say Ballinamore might face a similar decline as their population decreases. St Mary's are really the only team that will consistently stay at the top level due to their ever increasing population. I think we will see divisional teams in the future. Possibly a league then club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Junior) then a divisional championship where the bigger clubs (St Mary's, Mohill, Ballinamore, Fenagh etc) will face off against regional amalgamations. Similar to Kerry's model. It is important though not to resort to complete amalgamations where possible at senior level. All clubs need to be given the help to operate alone to keep every club alive. Even if that means 13 aside games in some circumstances. They need to be given the opportunity to play games on their own as their own club. You can see in Longford how many clubs have folded and it is extremely sad to see. The GAA club is the heart of every parish. If the club dies the parish dies. Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 324 - 03/09/2024 09:48:40 2568161 Link
Alot of talk over teams having 3 weeks off for semi finals .. 2 quarter finals this weekend Fenagh aughawillan might be a tough call with aughawillan going well at the moment but wouldn't write off Fenagh . Carrick and Leitrim Gaels to carrick has few to come back but Leitrim Gaels seems to have a few new names on the scene . Will be an Interesting weekend 94_we_want_more (Leitrim) - Posts: 1 - 03/09/2024 09:53:25 2568163 Link
Replying To 94_we_want_more: "Alot of talk over teams having 3 weeks off for semi finals .. 2 quarter finals this weekend Fenagh aughawillan might be a tough call with aughawillan going well at the moment but wouldn't write off Fenagh . Carrick and Leitrim Gaels to carrick has few to come back but Leitrim Gaels seems to have a few new names on the scene . Will be an Interesting weekend" Hopefully the games will competitive this weekend ,pitch is tighter than Carrick might suit Leitrim and Aughawillan, Redlad6 (Leitrim) - Posts: 30 - 03/09/2024 11:22:54 2568177 Link
Seen all Friday game's have been brought forward to 6:30. That's some lack of respect for all club with players away. Some clubs would be doing well to have lad's home for 7:30. Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 342 - 03/09/2024 11:31:17 2568180 Link
Replying To Thejampot: "Seen all Friday game's have been brought forward to 6:30. That's some lack of respect for all club with players away. Some clubs would be doing well to have lad's home for 7:30." At this stage of the year Friday night games should be played under lights to take pressure off lads not working locally but unfortunately only a handful of clubs have this facility and few clubs will concede home advantage. Better still, move them to Saturday at 6 but guess that would be too logical. gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 562 - 03/09/2024 11:57:11 2568191 Link
Replying To Leitrimforliam: "To be honest it's swings and roundabouts. You can see Annaduff will be one of the top dogs in a few years time with their underage success. Bornacoola and Gortletteragh will also be vastly improved off the back of their underage teams consistently playing in division 1. Possibly harder to measure how successful they will be compared to Annaduff as they are operating as a amalgamation. Mohill one of the top teams in Leitrim for the past 15 years will see a decline as their underage teams are operating at div 2/3. Some also say Ballinamore might face a similar decline as their population decreases. St Mary's are really the only team that will consistently stay at the top level due to their ever increasing population. I think we will see divisional teams in the future. Possibly a league then club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Junior) then a divisional championship where the bigger clubs (St Mary's, Mohill, Ballinamore, Fenagh etc) will face off against regional amalgamations. Similar to Kerry's model. It is important though not to resort to complete amalgamations where possible at senior level. All clubs need to be given the help to operate alone to keep every club alive. Even if that means 13 aside games in some circumstances. They need to be given the opportunity to play games on their own as their own club. You can see in Longford how many clubs have folded and it is extremely sad to see. The GAA club is the heart of every parish. If the club dies the parish dies." All good and well saying it but it is the future. Families are not having 10 kids anymore and rural club's will have no option to fold. That and emigration and young people moving to bigger town's or cities. Lets call as spade a spade, young people have many options now and football hasn't the allure or pride of parish that it had 20/30 years ago. Divisional championship is long overdue ion my opinion. Not to replace the current format put an additional competition. In my opinion it will only bring on players and get players exposure to better standard of football which can only have a positive impact to the county team. Not that it matters as its being discussed on multiple occasions and largely ignored - lets keeping kicking the can!!! leitrimlad15 (Leitrim) - Posts: 108 - 03/09/2024 15:56:30 2568264 Link
you would imagine with Drumreilly in dire straits for playing numbers and not many coming through over the next few years, that they will probably have to join the willies. also Aughnasheelin aren't in great shape either you could see that St. Brigids amalgamation going right through all grades from underage to senior. and why not i suppose. Also the geographical pick St. Marys have is crazy. am i right in saying they have 5 primary schools in their area, thats a major issue too. but undoubtedly won't be tackled. not so long ago they had Leitrim Village and Marys still have some players from there i beileve. meathbasedfan (Leitrim) - Posts: 123 - 03/09/2024 16:47:52 2568275 Link
Replying To leitrimlad15: "All good and well saying it but it is the future. Families are not having 10 kids anymore and rural club's will have no option to fold. That and emigration and young people moving to bigger town's or cities. Lets call as spade a spade, young people have many options now and football hasn't the allure or pride of parish that it had 20/30 years ago. Divisional championship is long overdue ion my opinion. Not to replace the current format put an additional competition. In my opinion it will only bring on players and get players exposure to better standard of football which can only have a positive impact to the county team. Not that it matters as its being discussed on multiple occasions and largely ignored - lets keeping kicking the can!!!" I know full well it is the future and eventually clubs will end up folding. But I'd rather see the county board implement a third divisional competition before any clubs do fold. It would only lessen the stress on those teams that are in danger of folding as well as giving their players a chance to compete against the best in Leitrim and still play for their parish. It would actually be beneficial for the county team as we would have a stronger championship which will only improve the county team. I really don't see any negatives in this besides from trying to get Cloone and Aughavas lads to play on the same divisonal team. Could also allow Junior clubs to play 13 aside (I think this already a rule for Junior B and below) that way there would be no club folding for at least another few years. Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 324 - 03/09/2024 18:04:20 2568290 Link
Just a comment about the last 4 posts, this has all been long predicted and indeed raised at county board level by Declan Bohan (who in my opinion is an excellent officer of the board). He would have been fairly in tune with the lie of the land during his time as Principal in Bornacoola. It looks like very little has happened since and there doesn't seem to be much conversation taking place about this pressing issue. The ladies have already bit the bullet and the men's teams will have too as well if football is to survive in Leitrim. The integration of the various organisations within the GAA is going to put this on the table soon enough and some clubs are going to have to make some hard decisions in the next 5 - 10 years. The St. Bridget's amalgamation is an interesting one given it consists of 3 clubs which wouldn't be the norm in Leitrim. Traditionally Aughawillan amalgamated with Drumreilly (as Drumreilly and sometimes called Garadice Gaels) and Aughnasheelin with Ballinamore (as Oughteragh Gaels but I'm fairly sure Aughnasheelin also amalgamated with Kiltubrid for a few years (happy to be corrected)). Taking this one into Senior level will be an interesting one as all clubs have a strong identity (particularly Aughawillan). It's not a given that Drumreilly would join up with Aughawillan, Drumreilly players could easily join up with Carrigallen and Aughnasheelin with Kiltubrid which would leave Aughawillan very vulnerable. The bottom line here is that this whole discussion about amalgamations will have to be managed sensitively otherwise it will all just end up in tears. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1017 - 03/09/2024 21:26:52 2568316 Link
Replying To meathbasedfan: "you would imagine with Drumreilly in dire straits for playing numbers and not many coming through over the next few years, that they will probably have to join the willies. also Aughnasheelin aren't in great shape either you could see that St. Brigids amalgamation going right through all grades from underage to senior. and why not i suppose. Also the geographical pick St. Marys have is crazy. am i right in saying they have 5 primary schools in their area, thats a major issue too. but undoubtedly won't be tackled. not so long ago they had Leitrim Village and Marys still have some players from there i beileve." They also now have young lads coming over the bridge to play with them Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 324 - 04/09/2024 08:44:07 2568340 Link
Replying To meathbasedfan: "you would imagine with Drumreilly in dire straits for playing numbers and not many coming through over the next few years, that they will probably have to join the willies. also Aughnasheelin aren't in great shape either you could see that St. Brigids amalgamation going right through all grades from underage to senior. and why not i suppose. Also the geographical pick St. Marys have is crazy. am i right in saying they have 5 primary schools in their area, thats a major issue too. but undoubtedly won't be tackled. not so long ago they had Leitrim Village and Marys still have some players from there i beileve." How would you tackle that? Are you suggesting a third club in Kiltoghert? eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 04/09/2024 08:58:32 2568345 Link
The wild thing about the talk of amalgamations is that Leitrim population is at its highest in over 60 years and all these new people haven't just gone to Carrick. Something has gone wrong somewhere. People not being able to get planning permission in their own rural parishes has been a major issue not just for GAA, but for national schools, post offices etc. eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 04/09/2024 10:38:17 2568366 Link
Replying To eslinchickenmaryland: "How would you tackle that? Are you suggesting a third club in Kiltoghert?" honestly i'm sure, but there is the numbers there for another good sized club. meathbasedfan (Leitrim) - Posts: 123 - 04/09/2024 10:38:30 2568367 Link