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In Kerry's system. It is 8 Senior teams and 8 divisional teams. 12 total would be enough in Leitrim.

7 senior teams (all except relegated team)
Based on last year I'd put it like this.
Mohill, Mary's, B'more, Leitrim, fenagh, Manor and Aughawillan.

5 amalgamated teams:

1. Melvin, Glenfarne, Dromahair
2. Allen G, Ballinagleara, DrumK
3. AughnaS, DrumR, Kiltubrid
4. Gort, Annaduff Bornacoola
5. Carrigallen, Aughavas, Cloone, Eslin

Would any of the amalgamated teams beat mohill or carrick or would it be better to have 10 teams with just 3 amalgamated teams, North, central and south with 5/6 teams in each.

b.o.b. (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 23/01/2024 17:43:57    2521769

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The restructuring of the club championships is incredible news. It's without a doubt going to have a profoundly positive impact on our club teams, in raising the standards of club football and on our inter county team.

8 senior, 8 intermediate and 10 junior A sounds just right. Next few years of club champs will have some epic games

Well done to all involved in bringing and passing this motion.

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 642 - 23/01/2024 21:28:59    2521802

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Don't see this new format having a major affect on standards. The intermediate championship is always very competitive. The senior championship will always have the same few teams in semi finals and finals. We can do all The re shuffling we want but if anyone think this will help the county team is IMO away off. Once a player starts adult football he's level of development will slow up and he will either be committed or not. Suddenly because there is 2 less teams in a championship won't make him a better footballer. BTW I am not against the idea at all I am just stating my view that it won't make a huge difference. Until we get the underage club coaches upto a standard that will develop young lads and give them the tools to achieve at the highest level then we won't progress the problem with this that has to be driven of the head of coaching In Leitrim

lugdrum (Leitrim) - Posts: 311 - 24/01/2024 09:09:32    2521832

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I see it as hugely positive. I would have preferred to have had two teams promoted from intermediate every year or at least have the losing intermediate finalist playing the 2nd bottom senior team. However, this is a great start.

Further change will come from players at adult level and they'll demand a higher standard of coaching at club level. Too many have been coasting along knowing that minimal effort will ensure survival. Fitness levels and S+C will improve at the very least. We are light years behind as it is.

Change at underage level will also be driven by the clubs. The juggernaut that is St. Mary's will continue to inspire amalgamations. This is a positive but County board input is vital to ensure this is done correctly. The CSO data is there to aid this. All first teams at underage should be playing 15 a side and Division 1. Use the CSO data to figure out if its realistic to expect, for example, a Carrigallen/Aughavas amalgamation to compete in Division 1. If its not realistic then add in another club. If theres an abundance of players then their second team plays in Division 2. And get rid of that ridiculous rule that you're only allowed two plays.

It will also raise standards as young players are well capable of voicing their dissatisfaction regarding coaching! It is starting to sink in that big numbers doesn't necessarily equate to trophies. It certainly helps, but you also need more to your CV than just being a father of one of the players.

ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 104 - 24/01/2024 10:24:48    2521851

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Replying To b.o.b.:  "In Kerry's system. It is 8 Senior teams and 8 divisional teams. 12 total would be enough in Leitrim.

7 senior teams (all except relegated team)
Based on last year I'd put it like this.
Mohill, Mary's, B'more, Leitrim, fenagh, Manor and Aughawillan.

5 amalgamated teams:

1. Melvin, Glenfarne, Dromahair
2. Allen G, Ballinagleara, DrumK
3. AughnaS, DrumR, Kiltubrid
4. Gort, Annaduff Bornacoola
5. Carrigallen, Aughavas, Cloone, Eslin

Would any of the amalgamated teams beat mohill or carrick or would it be better to have 10 teams with just 3 amalgamated teams, North, central and south with 5/6 teams in each."
I'm assuming you'd run off a senior, inter, junior championships too like Kerry. It would work this year like that with the 5 amalgamated teams. After that you'd have trouble rejigging the regional teams every year when a team gets relegated or promoted.

Say Dromahair got promoted and Leitrim Gaels relegated you'd end up with Melvin Gaels and Glenfarne on their own and another region being massively strengthened by the addition of Leitrim Gaels. Possibly less teams could be better. Say 6 top senior teams on their own and the bottom two senior clubs and intermediate and junior amalgamated into 4 regional teams. Call it the "Leitrim Championship".

It would take a lot of rehashing to get it right and no one will be a fan of it at the start. Lets face it I myself and majority of Leitrim GAA heads do not want to see this happen. But it is inevitable with rural parish populations getting smaller and towns getting bigger. It is something that will have to be done to bring on Leitrim football to the next level..

Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 229 - 24/01/2024 10:32:39    2521853

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Does anyone know if the rejigging is done to accommodate amalgamated senior teams and therefore increasing your championship maybe to 10 teams? Or, is it just to bring them down to 8? I often wonder how successful and how well clubs would get on with one another in smaller counties playing on the same senior team maybe a week before or after a local derby in the Inter/Junior.

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 356 - 24/01/2024 10:47:55    2521861

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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "Does anyone know if the rejigging is done to accommodate amalgamated senior teams and therefore increasing your championship maybe to 10 teams? Or, is it just to bring them down to 8? I often wonder how successful and how well clubs would get on with one another in smaller counties playing on the same senior team maybe a week before or after a local derby in the Inter/Junior."
No amalgamations just less Senior teams. Other comments were just speculation about 'what if' there was a similar structure to Kerry.

b.o.b. (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 24/01/2024 12:28:51    2521886

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Replying To lugdrum:  "Don't see this new format having a major affect on standards. The intermediate championship is always very competitive. The senior championship will always have the same few teams in semi finals and finals. We can do all The re shuffling we want but if anyone think this will help the county team is IMO away off. Once a player starts adult football he's level of development will slow up and he will either be committed or not. Suddenly because there is 2 less teams in a championship won't make him a better footballer. BTW I am not against the idea at all I am just stating my view that it won't make a huge difference. Until we get the underage club coaches upto a standard that will develop young lads and give them the tools to achieve at the highest level then we won't progress the problem with this that has to be driven of the head of coaching In Leitrim"
I agree with all this. While I welcome the reduction of teams playing in the senior championship it will make a difference but I don't believe it will make a huge difference.

I see Donegal are looking for Karl Laceys replacement as head of the academy, I would like to see Leitrim create a similar position.

We need to go into secondary schools and identify talent and work with them to develop them into inter County footballers.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 294 - 24/01/2024 12:39:20    2521889

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I am good with the less senior/inter teams and have a "county" championship for amalgamations and likes of mary's mohill etc who are strong enough and dont need to join up with anyone. Dunno really how much interest there would be in it, like the U20s some clubs won't be interested despite having the numbers

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 454 - 24/01/2024 14:02:31    2521904

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Replying To 3rdmidfielder:  "I agree with all this. While I welcome the reduction of teams playing in the senior championship it will make a difference but I don't believe it will make a huge difference.

I see Donegal are looking for Karl Laceys replacement as head of the academy, I would like to see Leitrim create a similar position.

We need to go into secondary schools and identify talent and work with them to develop them into inter County footballers."
They entered a leitrim secondary school senior team into the connacht A competition this year and in every single game were way off in the group games. Having the pick of the county and cant get any points on the board in the group says enough about leitrim football, playing a "county team" against a school and getting trashed in each game shows the reason leitrim are a divison 4 side through and through , leitrim players cant play together unless they've been playing togheter with a club , i see carrick school are in the B final which is a great achievment. When u compare that carrick school are on the verge of winning B and the Leitrim schools team cant get any points in A says alot , another point i have is when clubs competing in the connacht championship in the last 3 years each team within a kick off the ball into a connacht final, where as the leitrim team cant get a win against a team of random lads in new york. Blame Andy moran all you want there is bigger problems in this county

Mohill23 (Leitrim) - Posts: 2 - 24/01/2024 18:31:34    2521939

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I can certainly see a situation in 5-7 years time whereby the Leitrim SFC will start late Sept after the Intermediate and Junior and consist of 6 senior teams (St Mary's, Glencar Manor, Ballinamore, Mohill + two others, likely two of Annaduff, Allen Gaels, Leitrim Gaels, Fenagh) and 4 Divisional sides.

As a poster said above, it could easily mimic the Kerry club system in format providing the Spring League is dispensed with or started much earlier.

1)League proper from April/May.

2) Senior, Inter and Junior A "Club Championship" (played at optimal time of year) from end of June to early Aug if needed.

3) Two week break.

4) Senior County Championship from Mid/Late Aug to early Oct.


It may even be done with 8 teams and two Divisional sides (North and South) providing the new 8 team format doesn't see the Top 6 getting stronger at the expense of the Bottom 2 which is what we have currently in that the bottom 2 to 3 teams in the 10 team SFC are way off the pace.

Roscommon are already at it admittedly in a flawed way, but given our specific demographic challenges it will be the only way to have a credible, competitive championship at Senior level going forward.

Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 373 - 24/01/2024 18:59:17    2521942

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Replying To gaelsboy:  "I am good with the less senior/inter teams and have a "county" championship for amalgamations and likes of mary's mohill etc who are strong enough and dont need to join up with anyone. Dunno really how much interest there would be in it, like the U20s some clubs won't be interested despite having the numbers"
A regional team(s) may have to be run by a county board sponsored management team to start with... I think Leitrim North / South would be sufficient at the moment and takes into account potential interest. It should be trialled anyhow but ultimately a 8 team Senior Championship has to be the way forward. I'm conscious of future trends which may force more regional teams to enter but it will have to be limited.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 843 - 24/01/2024 19:17:32    2521943

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Anyone going to make a stab at the starting team for Sunday. I haven't heard a peak of whos involved so it's impossible to try but here goes

1. O Donnell
2. A. Flynn
3. M. Diffley
4. D. Casey
5. E. Sweeney
6. J. Gilheanny
7. C. McGlion
8. D. Wrynn
9. P. Dolan
10. S. Quinn
11. P. Keaney
12. D. Rooney
13. R. O'Rourke
14. R. O'Rourke
15. J Renoylds

Likes of Plunkett, Tom Prior were togged in the dome so it's hard to see they would be ready for this weekend. I'd say at least 11 of the above 15 will start but maybe not in them exact positions

lugdrum (Leitrim) - Posts: 311 - 25/01/2024 20:28:56    2522098

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Replying To lugdrum:  "Anyone going to make a stab at the starting team for Sunday. I haven't heard a peak of whos involved so it's impossible to try but here goes

1. O Donnell
2. A. Flynn
3. M. Diffley
4. D. Casey
5. E. Sweeney
6. J. Gilheanny
7. C. McGlion
8. D. Wrynn
9. P. Dolan
10. S. Quinn
11. P. Keaney
12. D. Rooney
13. R. O'Rourke
14. R. O'Rourke
15. J Renoylds

Likes of Plunkett, Tom Prior were togged in the dome so it's hard to see they would be ready for this weekend. I'd say at least 11 of the above 15 will start but maybe not in them exact positions"
The team we select won't have any huge shocks. As the previous poster suggested there are 11/12 guaranteed starters.

1. O Donnell
2. A Reynolds
3. D. Casey
4. M. Diffley
5. E. Sweeney
6. J. Gilheaney
7. C. McGloin
8. D. Wrynn
9. P. Dolan
10. S. Quinn
11. P. Keaney
12. D. Rooney
13. B.McNulty
14. R. O'Rourke
15. J Reynolds

28th January = Waterford - Leitrim

4th Feb = Leitrim - London

This two week break will be crucial.

18th February = Leitrim - Wexford

I think our schedule is going to help determine what team is selected in the next few weeks.

When planning the year the guess is the management will target the game against Wexford to have anyone with knocks back to full tilt as we should be getting over Waterford who are at their lowest point ever and a below normal standard London. That gives them another 3 weeks to get up to the required fitness levels.

Keith Beirne is back training and may get some game time but he can't be match fit yet. Personally I wouldn't have him on the squad but he is back training.

Plunkett has been recovering from a hip injury (like 8 other Leitrim players over the winter) and Tom Prior damaged his Hamstring again. What position Plunkett plays (or if he plays) in when he returns will tell you a lot about how Leitrim are going to play.

Trying to accommodate Keith Beirne, Ryan O'Rourke, Darragh Rooney, Paul Keaney, Barry McNulty and Mark Plunkett into one forward line is not doable when you consider defensive shape and pace etc. If Jordan Reynolds is fit I think he is a guaranteed starter as he brings pace and a directness to our play.

Trying to mould Evan Sweeney and or Tom Prior into Wing Backs is an 'interesting idea'. Hopefully it works out better when they tried to do it with Riordan O'Rourke and Jordan Reynolds. I have my doubts.
However, it is the area of the field where the most space is now so I understand why Moran is trying to do it.

Shane Quinn also seems to be our sweeper for the year from one of the wing forward positions so that also takes up another position in the forward unit.

Can anyone see any bolters starting Clancy from Melvin Gaels? Casey from St.Marys, Diarmuid Kelleher? McGrail? Think any bolter we have may still be with the U20s and they could be used once their campaign is finished.

Theres no doubt about it. This is a year to get promoted,

Ryan O'Rourke/Keith Beirne are arguably two of the best forwards we have had in thirty years. Then add in the likes of Darragh Rooney, Pearce Dolan (who could be the main man if he kicks on) and Mark Plunkett who are all now in their prime with lots of experience and its easy to see why their should be pressure to perform on this team.

The problem is outside of Donal Casey I don't think we have a high level defender and there is also massive question marks over Nevin O'Donnell in goals.

A Leitrim man starting Midfield for Cavan this weekend aswell.

Best of luck to the team and management. Not many will realise the untold commitment it takes to even get on a county panel these days.

Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 297 - 25/01/2024 22:21:00    2522109

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Best of luck to team and management tomorrow, there are three on the bench that I would have starting but obviously management know better. Leitrim Abu!

lecture250 (Leitrim) - Posts: 119 - 27/01/2024 22:55:56    2522535

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Replying To lecture250:  "Best of luck to team and management tomorrow, there are three on the bench that I would have starting but obviously management know better. Leitrim Abu!"
I'd rather have them available for the full campaign than risking them today when you could argue that they're not needed. I expect a win in Waterford today and we should have too much for them.

Anyhow best of luck to the lads, all must win games this year.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 843 - 28/01/2024 08:43:41    2522563

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I know Leitrim were expected to win easy but it's a good start to the league. Well done to all involved. London at home next weekend and I'm expecting another big win.

williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 338 - 28/01/2024 15:38:53    2522685

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Leitrim Mayo connacht final.. Get ur money on

Zucker (Leitrim) - Posts: 156 - 28/01/2024 16:34:10    2522711

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Good win today albeit against a very poor Waterford team in a venue we've struggled in over the years. We done our scoring difference no harm either. London will be a tough game next weekend but we need another win before a week off and then a run of tough games against our promotion rivals.

JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 181 - 28/01/2024 20:04:43    2522825

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Very worrying the amount of goal chances Waterford created

SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 395 - 28/01/2024 21:22:01    2522846

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