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That was an exciting hour last night after that Rhubarb "news" paper put out the Donaghy/Galvin tale. Then the air went out if the balloon..... Where to now....16 weeks since the County team exited the Championship, 9 since Cunningham left, around 13 weeks to 1st FBD game.... Ah sure we'd better not rush things.. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1436 - 04/10/2022 10:48:39 2442745 Link 1 |
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Where have they been in the last few years. Has Dineen even managed any team in years? I know his club castlerea st Kevin's were looking for someone to take them over for a long time and he never bothered. Fergal O'Donnell has managed a few club teams and failed and Liam Tully isn't anywhere near the level and that's a fact
dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 04/10/2022 11:05:44 2442749 Link 1 |
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Frankie probably the best Local option and he is gone in as a selector with the u20s. If any of the names mentioned here end up over County team i wont be going to matches going forward.
sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 04/10/2022 12:22:52 2442764 Link 0 |
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Don't understand it either. The Roscommon County Board have been secretive about the process and that has lead to all the rumours. We all knew who the candidates were for the Mayo Manager job. If the Roscommon County Board are doing interviews shortly, why not let us know the candidates.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 04/10/2022 13:09:40 2442772 Link 0 |
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It also begs the question who the county board have been approaching. I would not be surprised if Donaghy had turned it down had he been asked but he hasn't even been approached. It looks like, apart from Pat Flanagan, the potential candidate will not have inter county experience. You would think it would be the likes of Donaghy, well thought of coach looking to get on the management ladder, that would be sounded out. The new manager to be apparently in place by the county final. It doesn't inspire confidence. The herald reported that Kevin Johnson was approached but wasn't biting. Has Don Connellan definitely been ruled out? That leaves a very small list. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 794 - 04/10/2022 13:21:22 2442775 Link 0 |
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Who would you like to see appointed. You've indicated who you don't want. We're not going to get Jim Gavin. There are advantages to an internal Roscommon candidate. Nearly all the most successful gaa managers have managed their native county. Micko, Cody, Boylan and Gavin to name a few. I'd rate O'Donnell highly and I think he'd be a success. Dineen did well with the U21s but as you say hasn't managed for a while. Don't forget that one Brian Cody had very little managerial experience when taking over Kilkenny. The rest is history as they say. I would like the County Board to name the candidates as the Mayo Board did and stop all these rumours.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 04/10/2022 13:21:23 2442776 Link 0 |
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Oh to be a Rossie!! Mayo for Sam Jellybaby (Dublin) - Posts: 335 - 04/10/2022 13:52:06 2442778 Link 0 |
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Hasn't happened for 71 years Jelly.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 04/10/2022 13:58:15 2442779 Link 0 |
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You can use Brian Cody as an example ffs. How can you compare kilkenny hurling to Roscommon football? Fergal O'Donnell a man I know well and respect very well but he hasn't had a good few years in management. I would have liked a don Connellan or donaghy or if we had went for Rochford before mc stay done the deal with him. I just think going back to Fergal O'Donnell is a massive mistake and Flanagan Dineen and Tully shouldn't be in the conversation. O'Donnell is definitely the best pick of them four by a long way but I guarantee we won't improve or achieve anything we haven't already in the last 15 years with any of them in charge. I hope I'm wrong but that's my opinion
dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 04/10/2022 14:06:02 2442783 Link 1 |
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A lot of names put around. What about O'Brien from Corofin. I think he is gone from Corofin. Perhaps himself and Colm Boyle. I'm sure that he would have no trouble putting a backroom team together as he would certainly command a lot of respect given his CV
Jack L (None) - Posts: 3101 - 04/10/2022 14:31:20 2442787 Link 0 |
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What has O'Donnell done since 2010.Very poor stints at Killoe and Western Gaels? Final for Tourlestrane next week but nearly harder lose with them than win. I am certain he would work extremely hard if give the job but if doing nothing of note in 12 years is good enough to get the county job we are not in a great position. And he is head an shoulders ahead of Tully Dineen and Flanagan I wont even discuss them. sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 04/10/2022 15:22:28 2442794 Link 1 |
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Roscommon have not achieved much in Div 1 or in championship in recent years,supporters need to realise we are not an attractive option to outsiders,if it is Fergal i have no doubt he will get the best out of whats available to him.Fergie knows the club scene inside out in Roscommon and he is a better option all round!!As former winning captain and manager Fergie will put Roscommon 1st!! Gaelrossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 70 - 04/10/2022 16:17:10 2442801 Link 2 |
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How does he know the club scene inside out? When did he last attend a club game in county?
reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 04/10/2022 16:39:15 2442803 Link 0 |
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"guarantee we won't improve or achieve anything we haven't already in the last 15 years" Could say that regardless of the manager, maybe Roscommon have already achieved as much as they likely to do for the next 15 years. Between 2007 and 2016 Roscommon reached or won 9 Connacht U21 finals that level of underage consistency will never be seen again by Roscommon and the time to strike the iron when it was hot in regards to the senior team was 2016 to 2019. It was the opportunity to pick up as many senior Connacht titles as possible become established Div 1 team and reach All Ireland semi final. A lot of those players are either in their late 20's or early 30s now 2017 U21 and the last 5 years U20 has produced one good team so that in itself will make the rebuild more difficult and regression as was seen in the last few championship campaigns was always likely to happen. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3353 - 04/10/2022 16:42:11 2442804 Link 1 |
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Dineens original club was Tulsk. Has already managed Castlerea and led them to the senior knock out stages. Castlerea are a middle of the road intermediate club now David Casey jumped quickly due to lack of lads turning up for training they are managed by local lads now be it Dermot Lyons previously and now Jason Reilly. Dineen had a difficult year himself losing his mom and lucky his dad and himself pulled through. Good to see he was in attendance in the Hyde at the weekend has never lost his love for the game and Roscommon. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3760 - 04/10/2022 16:57:59 2442805 Link 0 |
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When AC took over in 2018 he had a squad with a load of 22 to 26 year olds who'd been to the Quarter Finals 2 years in a row. We now have a lot of 26 to 30 year olds and 3 v poor Championships in a row. Certainly not as attractive proposition as 4 tears ago. If our Committee has scoured the Country and couldn't get anyone to bite then so be it and let's get the best management that wants the job. A Fergal/Nigel ticket perhaps? Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1436 - 04/10/2022 17:00:31 2442806 Link 0 |
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Just goes to show, although you obviously need underage coming through, if you look at the successful U21/U20 teams (either provincial winners or making the AI final) over the past ten years or so, Dublin, Mayo and Tyrone are the only one's translating that success to senior regularly. Galway got there this year but considering their success at underage, it is a poor return. Likewise Donegal in the early 2010's. Cavan, Roscommon, Cork, Tipp, Down and Kildare have all done well at that grade but you'd struggle to put any in the top 8 at senior at the moment after last years performances. Too early to judge Offaly yet. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 794 - 04/10/2022 17:13:47 2442810 Link 0 |
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Well if attending club matches is a priority then no outsider is qualified by that thinking!!!Managing western gaels last yr,avid Ros Gaels supporter and living in Boyle suggests he knows the Roscommon scene.
Gaelrossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 70 - 04/10/2022 17:57:35 2442812 Link 0 |
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There was no senior game last weekend as good as Faithleachs v Glaveys the weekend before. Its October now and one should expect matches to be more slogs than classics. Dublin,Mayo etc have similar quality senior club games as we had. I attended 3 of the 4 senior games and watched Brigids v Clann last night. I thought plenty stood out for Roscommon Gaels in knocking out the county and Connacht champions. Namely Gillooly,Purcell,Lambe,Kilcline. McKeon and young Casey was best for Boyle Sunday in an average team performance Andy Glennon the clear stand out for Glaveys even though he kicked the penalty over the bar. Brogan,McGinley,McGann,Mullooly best for me for Strokestown. Young Shane Walsh showed well for Oran. Brigids best served IMO by Brian Stack,Paul McGrath, and Bobby Nugent Ben O'Carroll had their moments and how Boyle handle both this weekend will be key. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3760 - 04/10/2022 21:02:50 2442825 Link 0 |
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A lot of merit in what poster has said here. Roscommon are now entering a partial rebuild with at least 3 new backs needed, a goalie be it a starter or another option and at least 2/3 different forwards. Keith Doyle featuring more would free up Harney to go to the 40 or edge of square. The danger of edge of square though is he has no out and out pace and we've seen how Conor Cox has struggled with that at times and Diarmuid Murtagh also. We have no targets at wing forward to go long with kick outs either so that is another non availqble option other than Enda Smith recovers somenof his form of 3 years ago otherwise he is just an option off the bench at best. The hardest part for the incoming manager will be to pick a captain as there are very few out and out starters with any relevant experience. Harney if fit would be a contender, Ciaran Muftagh also and was captain previously, Brian Stack also who will be a nailed on starter amd hoepfully a but higher up the pitch. Not too many others for the job. Apart from those 3 you couldn't say too many be other nailed on regular starters and not captwin material. Hughes should feature more next season as will McCormack, McKeon is a starter now as well. Eddie Nolan will feature heavily once his form continues. SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 273 - 04/10/2022 21:53:02 2442831 Link 0 |