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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Ticket for the Roscommon match now on sale at ticketmaster. Hope you all get a reasonable ticket."
30 euro and no option of cheaper Hill16 tickets. Can't see many staying on for the 2nd game at 6pm

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3203 - 07/06/2022 14:48:55    2423065

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Replying To dave1988:  "Few off our forwards were absolutely wrecked midway through second half against Galway. Donie Smith looked like a man ready to fall and I don't think he put in a massive shift. You would wonder did we over do training days before game because the players didn't look sharp and they weren't moving great. What will attendance by Saturday with two games? Will we see 30,000"
When that happens it means one of two things. Over training during the 4 week lay off or fitness and conditioning way off the level of the likes of Mayo, Dublin and Kerry and to be fair their level of fitness and conditioning is as good if not better than a lot of professional sport teams across the water. Galway i might add have greatly improved their fitness since Cian O'Neill arrived but have to deal with a 4 week lay off now.

25k max I'd reckon between the two games.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 672 - 07/06/2022 15:24:08    2423094

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Replying To Yondu:  "When that happens it means one of two things. Over training during the 4 week lay off or fitness and conditioning way off the level of the likes of Mayo, Dublin and Kerry and to be fair their level of fitness and conditioning is as good if not better than a lot of professional sport teams across the water. Galway i might add have greatly improved their fitness since Cian O'Neill arrived but have to deal with a 4 week lay off now.

25k max I'd reckon between the two games."
AC has managed a team to an all Ireland final so you'd think he knows what standards need to be met. I heard Roscommon played both Dublin ad Kerry in challenges in the lead up to the Galway game. Hopefully it was a case of just over doing it and it can be rectified. It was awkward having such a gap between the league final and sligo game and then another gap to the connacht final. While Galway got a good tester against Mayo and a game against Leitrim in that time.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 227 - 07/06/2022 16:04:53    2423121

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "AC has managed a team to an all Ireland final so you'd think he knows what standards need to be met. I heard Roscommon played both Dublin ad Kerry in challenges in the lead up to the Galway game. Hopefully it was a case of just over doing it and it can be rectified. It was awkward having such a gap between the league final and sligo game and then another gap to the connacht final. While Galway got a good tester against Mayo and a game against Leitrim in that time."
He does but are those standards met in Roscommon? In house A v B games are more useful workouts than challenge games that are very stop start and played in low intensity quarters.

Galway was certainly primed with that good win over Mayo in MacHale Park, Roscommon was in a simliar situation going into the 2019 Connacht final.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 672 - 07/06/2022 16:53:50    2423144

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "AC has managed a team to an all Ireland final so you'd think he knows what standards need to be met. I heard Roscommon played both Dublin ad Kerry in challenges in the lead up to the Galway game. Hopefully it was a case of just over doing it and it can be rectified. It was awkward having such a gap between the league final and sligo game and then another gap to the connacht final. While Galway got a good tester against Mayo and a game against Leitrim in that time."
Played Armagh and Kerry the two weekends before which I think they would have needed. They just looked so flat apart from Harney. No intensity at all from them which is a massive worry for me. We will beat Clare if we play to our ability but if we are any way off we won't win because Clare are going to hit us with everything they have Saturday. I said a couple of days ago that these lads aren't getting any younger and if we don't move to the next level soon then it will be such a waste of a really talented bunch of footballers that don't come around to often in Roscommon if we are honest.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 835 - 07/06/2022 18:28:22    2423175

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Tickets 30 euro for two games which is reasonable given the price of the provincial finals. For me I'm happy it's Croke Park as I can get the train in. It will be interesting to see what kind of a Ross/Mayo crowd are at it given the expense of travelling for the day on top of match tickets especially so soon after the trip to Salthill and hefty price tickets that day also.

Apparently Mayo agreed to Croke Park on the basis they played two matches in it already this year v Dublin and Kerry in league. Kildare played both Leinster semi and final in it. Niall Cullen is reffing the Roscommon match.

On a separate note a big shout out to TG4 who 6 matches on tv over Sunday and Monday and have the 4 minor All Ireland quarter finals on tv this Saturday and Sunday. A fantastic service.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 207 - 07/06/2022 20:36:51    2423205

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Replying To Yondu:  "He does but are those standards met in Roscommon? In house A v B games are more useful workouts than challenge games that are very stop start and played in low intensity quarters.

Galway was certainly primed with that good win over Mayo in MacHale Park, Roscommon was in a simliar situation going into the 2019 Connacht final."
Well that's a good question. Hard to know. Kevin Walsh made a good point on the Irish Examiner podcast that Roscommon seemed to have lost their aggressive streak in recent years. 2019 they looked very up for those games against Mayo and Galway.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 227 - 08/06/2022 07:43:57    2423241

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Replying To dave1988:  "Played Armagh and Kerry the two weekends before which I think they would have needed. They just looked so flat apart from Harney. No intensity at all from them which is a massive worry for me. We will beat Clare if we play to our ability but if we are any way off we won't win because Clare are going to hit us with everything they have Saturday. I said a couple of days ago that these lads aren't getting any younger and if we don't move to the next level soon then it will be such a waste of a really talented bunch of footballers that don't come around to often in Roscommon if we are honest."
It is worrying and they were lacking it against Sligo, especially in that first half. If it's not there against Clare in the third championship game then there is something seriously wrong. It is amazing how quickly time moved, they were described as a young and in experienced team for years. Hopefully they can reach another level. Covid probably did break their momentum. They seemed to have a great hunger in 2019. Mighty wins against Mayo and Galway. A good performance against Tyrone but probably showed them too much respect. Dublin game was bad but wasn't helped by sending off and Dublin at their peak as well.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 227 - 08/06/2022 10:24:00    2423279

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Aren't you living in Dublin SmokieRoss? No wonder you are happy it's played in Croke Park. Would be reasonable price if the majority of West of Ireland living supporters was able to watch both games but 6pm is too late for the 2nd game. Mayo have no say on choice on the venue it was all the choosing of HQ and them trying to make up for the loss of behind closed door matches the last two years.

On the game I'd agree with what others have said, intensity needs to be increased for this game, lack of in for the 1st half was concerning against Sligo. That's a good point by Kevin Walsh on the same aggression isn't there as 2019.

Team picked after ttraining last night, 4 or five changes I'm hearing with plenty of positional changes. Possibility that two players will make their first championship starts so best of luck to them if they do.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3203 - 08/06/2022 13:43:04    2423346

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Aren't you living in Dublin SmokieRoss? No wonder you are happy it's played in Croke Park. Would be reasonable price if the majority of West of Ireland living supporters was able to watch both games but 6pm is too late for the 2nd game. Mayo have no say on choice on the venue it was all the choosing of HQ and them trying to make up for the loss of behind closed door matches the last two years.

On the game I'd agree with what others have said, intensity needs to be increased for this game, lack of in for the 1st half was concerning against Sligo. That's a good point by Kevin Walsh on the same aggression isn't there as 2019.

Team picked after ttraining last night, 4 or five changes I'm hearing with plenty of positional changes. Possibility that two players will make their first championship starts so best of luck to them if they do."
A defeat usually means some alterations alright You probably don't want to speculate in public ....first start for Keith Doyle I'd imagine?
Did Richard Hughes ever start a Championship game.?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 373 - 08/06/2022 14:25:18    2423355

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If Mayo had a choice they'd probably pick a double header on Sunday in Tullamore with their minors. Kildare would likely agree as they can't stand Croke Park.

Clare play simliar to Galway with numbers back and counter attacking at pace. They don't have players of the quality of Shane Walsh, Damien Comer however in Tubridy, Cleary, Sexton will all cause damage if Roscommon defend as poorly as they did in the Connacht final. Clares midfield is among the best around with 6 ft 5 Darren O'Neill and the experienced Cathal O'Connor

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2902 - 08/06/2022 14:28:44    2423357

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Cunningham go if you's are beaten?

Roscommon have lacked any sort of bite with the last 3 championship losses. Outside of beating Galway & Mayo when was the last big scalp Roscommon had?

I think this is the strongest panel you've had in a long time.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 169 - 09/06/2022 13:51:58    2423589

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Replying To TheBishop:  "Cunningham go if you's are beaten?

Roscommon have lacked any sort of bite with the last 3 championship losses. Outside of beating Galway & Mayo when was the last big scalp Roscommon had?

I think this is the strongest panel you've had in a long time."
Yes Cunningham should have gone last year. After 2019, Roscommon have been very poor in the championship. Tame home defeats to Mayo and Galway and we were well off the pace in Salthill last month. Analyser here says there'll be personnel and positional changes for next Saturday so we'll see how that goes.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1767 - 09/06/2022 17:23:55    2423670

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes Cunningham should have gone last year. After 2019, Roscommon have been very poor in the championship. Tame home defeats to Mayo and Galway and we were well off the pace in Salthill last month. Analyser here says there'll be personnel and positional changes for next Saturday so we'll see how that goes."
If we win tomorrow and are competitive in quarter final then I don't think he will go anywhere. He will want a massive crack at the league next year. Even if we get beat Saturday I just can't see him walking away himself. I don't think anyone here will disagree that our defensive side of the team is below average and has been for years and it's something Cunningham needs to look at seriously if he was to stay on.. I'd love to know who's over that side of our game because its lower end division 2 standard all year.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 835 - 10/06/2022 11:02:00    2423734

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes Cunningham should have gone last year. After 2019, Roscommon have been very poor in the championship. Tame home defeats to Mayo and Galway and we were well off the pace in Salthill last month. Analyser here says there'll be personnel and positional changes for next Saturday so we'll see how that goes."
We need the spirit and drive of 2019 back.
If not Clare, a workmanlike well organised team will dump us on our behinds.
Defining game really...end of the road for a lot of good players or the cusp of an exciting year or 2.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 373 - 10/06/2022 11:07:43    2423736

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "We need the spirit and drive of 2019 back.
If not Clare, a workmanlike well organised team will dump us on our behinds.
Defining game really...end of the road for a lot of good players or the cusp of an exciting year or 2."
That's it, it has a real make or break feel to it. I actually wouldn't have minded losing the Connacht final if we had at least performed. I think we need a performance along with a result on Saturday.

On management, I have sympathy with them because covid completely broke momentum. There was such a flatness in those covid years performances compared to the hunger in 2019. Look at PJ next door, had started well and seemed to lose all momentum in those two years. The teams that performed well through that time were the already well established outfits, maybe with the exception of Tyrone.

Hopefully Roscommon bring good intensity to tomorrow especially from the start.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 227 - 10/06/2022 12:19:48    2423756

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When will the Roscommon team for tomorrow be named. Rumours of changes. Can you help Analyser.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1767 - 10/06/2022 17:47:18    2423828

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes Cunningham should have gone last year. After 2019, Roscommon have been very poor in the championship. Tame home defeats to Mayo and Galway and we were well off the pace in Salthill last month. Analyser here says there'll be personnel and positional changes for next Saturday so we'll see how that goes."
Positional changes yes but Cunningham has since I hear opted for experience lads over lads making their first championship starts so probably only 1 or 2 changes now. Changing tact this late is odd, focusing more on the opposition and potential match ups perhaps? County board PRO unable to publish a team with such dillying dallying.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3203 - 10/06/2022 21:50:22    2423849

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Positional changes yes but Cunningham has since I hear opted for experience lads over lads making their first championship starts so probably only 1 or 2 changes now. Changing tact this late is odd, focusing more on the opposition and potential match ups perhaps? County board PRO unable to publish a team with such dillying dallying."
That's not a good sign and will definitely rub off on team if he's messing around like that. For me it's simple I'd have same team as Galway but replace hussy with Hugh's kilroy with Heneghan and
D Murtagh with donie/cox.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 835 - 11/06/2022 09:15:38    2423868

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Positional changes yes but Cunningham has since I hear opted for experience lads over lads making their first championship starts so probably only 1 or 2 changes now. Changing tact this late is odd, focusing more on the opposition and potential match ups perhaps? County board PRO unable to publish a team with such dillying dallying."
Yes I'm hearing now that it'll be the same team that started against Galway. Very strange how no team named this late on. Anyway best of luck today to players and management and here's hoping for a much improved performance and hopefully the championship win we so badly need in Croke Park.

ComainRos (Roscommon) - Posts: 59 - 11/06/2022 09:28:33    2423869

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