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Louth Cork Tyrone Galway will love to see Monaghan in a qfinal too, besides the alternatives.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4807 - 15/06/2026 12:00:36 2679826 Link 0 |
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We see a bit of Ros regularly, and I don't believe they've been top5 in the country since their 1977-1980 side went over the hill.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4807 - 15/06/2026 12:02:54 2679827 Link 0 |
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Haven't bothered with here for a while but couldn't help tuning back in. Has to be said firstly, despite what felt like devastation and a funeral like procession leaving Clones, it has been a positive first year for the new management team who have put together a fairly new, young and exciting Roscommon team. Did so well to stay in Div 1 comfortably and win a Connacht title the hard way. Some brilliant days out in New York, Castlebar and the Hyde for supporters. However, I would say if writing up a report card evaluation, that was a good year. It can't be said that Roscommon have had a great year until they win a knock out championship game in Croker. Croker is where it is at, nothing beats the excitement heading for Dublin. And with the way the championship is now, there are so many rounds after the provincials, you feel like you are dumped out very early already. I'd sooner not win a Nestor cup for 20 years if we could make the last 4 of the All Ireland series. The provincial win is like the canapes at a wedding. Very tasty, can be badly needed after a long ceremony and can bridge a gap, but they won't fill you. The dinner is the main meal, and we unfortunately all too often are asleep in the corner before the soup is served. On the past few weeks, I completely agree with you. The Tyrone game was the turning point. We had to make the most of the momentum and win that game in front of big home support and put the ghost to bed of not performing outside Connacht. Was it a case of a mental fatigue crash, the huge high that came with the Galway game followed by a big deflation after the Tyrone defeat? It's so hard to explain the non-performance against Monaghan when you consider we were the only team over the whole weekend that rolled over without any fight. Number 1 i thought Monaghan took Tyrones template and went even further. Executed a great game plan and got their match ups right. Beggan was on song and all their big players stood up. So even if we came out fighting Monaghan might still have won that game. But the lack of intensity, aggression and concentration was baffling for a knock out game. Like there was no tussling or lads getting in faces for a do or die match. No yellow card till the end. Did we get caught nearly too afraid to get hands on lads because of Beggans 2 point free threat? We should have been just going man to man for the final 15-20 mins in that game. Defensively we were switched off and out of synch. No pressure put on McCarron at all when he had ball in hand, I'd say he couldn't believe the time he was given. Then a lack of movement and bad decision making down the other end which lead to turnovers. I thought we'd come out ravenous for breaking ball in the 3rd quarter, did we win any? The positives are this is a young team and very good management team with huge potential. I think they will learn a lot from this year but to make progress I really hope they can keep the panel together. I haven't seen a Roscommon team look as physically fit in a long time. If they can and start bringing through some young talent like McGinley, Eoghan Carthy, Niall Heneghan along with Ben O'Carroll to come back in. Start making Croker the holy grail. They have their provincial medals now. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 522 - 15/06/2026 12:16:23 2679834 Link 0 |
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Nothing to say we would have got Westmeath, Monaghan had only 2 potential opponents, we could have had 4. Westmeath will be a very difficult assignment for Monaghan but another game in Clones for them.
D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 15/06/2026 12:28:59 2679842 Link 0 |
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I agree we shouldn't be getting carried away with Nestor cups but I think we had such a brutal few years aside from the odd once off games that people were just delighted and very few of the team had a provincial medal. I feel very sorry for Diarmuid (stellar captain the way he spoke this year),R Daly, Enda and Stack, those lads I'd say only have eyes for getting to Croke Park. But on the ifs and buts of games. With the new rules you could say that about nearly every game. It is rare now when Div 1 and 2 sides meet each other that one team completely controls the game for 70 mins. Armagh were home and dry but for a fortunate goal at the death against Louth, Donegal seemed to be cruising against Cork, Cavan missed chance after chance against the Dubs yet it's the Dubs who pulled away. Derry should have beaten Monaghan in the Ulster semi. Even Armagh should have won the final in normal time. The key is to stay in games and make the most of momentum when it comes your way. The Monaghan game in fairness was an outlier in every game we played all year apart from the Mayo league game which was a dead rubber. Even our worst performance against Dublin, we had 10 scoring opportunities in the first half we butchered and then outscored Dublin in the second half. Yes we were open against Tyrone but we missed several scoring chances ourselves. As was said by someone previously, we had our worst performance in a game that was knock out. Most teams have had at least one off day, ours came at the worst possible time. The hunger, desire, energy and concentration that allowed us to win breaking ball against Galway and Mayo, and even Tyrone, was absent. We were too passive on Monaghans kick out as well. If you don't give yourself a platform to win primary possession around the middle you are not going to stay in games. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 522 - 15/06/2026 12:36:58 2679846 Link 0 |
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You're winding them up now. Leave them alone.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2757 - 15/06/2026 12:50:00 2679852 Link 0 |
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Roscommon were certainly top 5 in 1991. Back to back Connacht titles, semi final of the National League and beaten by a single point by Meath in the All Ireland semi final. We're getting roasted on social media over Clones and rightly so. A shocking bad performance and serious questions have to be asked of players and management about it. If Monaghan had their kicking boots on, Roscommon would have lost by 15/20 points. Not acceptable for thousands of Roscommon people to travel North for what was a Roscommon No show.. Monaghan have got a good home draw and the best of luck to them.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2706 - 15/06/2026 12:59:10 2679857 Link 0 |
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The manner of the exit is the main thing and trying to understand it and how to not repeat it next year will be the main thing now. @moros we lost but didn't go out to Kildare. All previous exits before the quarter-final stage for the last decade was fine margin competitive contests and it's the very least I expected from on Saturday yet we had no spark to get going at all and once Monaghan took the lead it was manner of what the margin was going to be so was no same drama in Clones unfortunately. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4404 - 15/06/2026 13:01:10 2679858 Link 0 |
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Other than Armagh or Kerry are any of the alternatives better than Monaghan. Might say Donegal but have lost to Down,Cork already. Monaghan in their last two All-Ireland quarter-finals were competitive v Donegal and beat Armagh. I recall them winning in Salthill to reach the last 4 another year. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4404 - 15/06/2026 13:04:15 2679867 Link 0 |
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Enjoy the Nestor cup lads, might distract ye from the sheep for a few weeks. Too bad the six best forwards in the country didn't get to show their skills in croker......... systematic (Galway) - Posts: 315 - 15/06/2026 13:04:33 2679868 Link 0 |