Reasonable first half performance going in one point ahead. Not at the races in the second half. Monaghan deserve a lot of credit but we seemed to run out of legs, ideas, structure and motivation. I presume that Keith Doyle and Ciaran Murtagh were taken off with next week in mind. A fully fit and motivated Brian Stack and Daire Cregg are badly needed.
A worry that we did not have a plan to close Beggan down and not concede any frees within 25 mts of the large D.
Poor at both ends of the pitch in the second half, the same as last week. Are they over/ under trained as the energy, skills level and decision making tends to deteriorate in the second half? (Cavan, Westmeath, Monaghan).
Feel sorry for the players as all teams at this level put in a huge effort and do not always get a reward.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 703 - 29/03/2025 22:01:00    2599357

Lads what has happened this team?

Firstly I thought we were good in the first half, thought we were tenacious and physical, forwards taking on their men and looked like we could push on in the second half. Completely the opposite. Looked lost, lacking confidence and full of errors. While some slack defending in parts, I would like to see a stat on how many Monaghan scores came from us making a mess of things in the final third. For all the talk of our talented forwards, a lot our forward play looks clunky, lacks cohesion, and is poorly executed. We look ponderous in attack. Where Monaghan looked the very opposite, great movement, flow and quick.

With about 20 or 25 minutes left we were moving the ball around with the purpose of a one legged turkey and it looked like how a team would play with 2 minutes left in a game that was all but over. We were two points down I think and zero urgency.

Who is our forwards coach?

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 30 - 29/03/2025 22:07:25    2599362

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 30 - 29/03/2025 22:14:55    2599364

Sadly, we're on a downward slide.
Older lads showing the mileage in the clock, newer lads a mixed bunch.
Not clear if our manager/coaches are actually doing anything with the players.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2180 - 30/03/2025 00:55:35    2599382

I think once a team gets on top we can't handle it. Not the first time this year we have seen this team fold under a bit of pressure. I don't know what burke is doing to be honest and people saying we are missing stack but he's not a miracle worker. It's going to be a short summer for this team. Not good enough in all area's.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1217 - 30/03/2025 08:03:35    2599389

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3986 - 30/03/2025 09:46:49    2599405

I woke up this morning with an hangover from that result and second half performance. Our fears played out in front if us in that second half. The signs were there and once a bit of heat came on we buckled. We are a shell of what we were in the first year under Burke and at times under Cunningham, nothing looks slick or cohesive, it's very much individual driven and it's not sustainable. I do feel as if Burke has took them as far as he can go and that Tyrone game last year was the worst thing that could have happened as he was given another year on the back of it. Not everything is Burke's fault as a lot of our downfall last night was through individual errors basic stuff and poor decision making. How many times did he give a ball to a man who was standing still or a hand pass to high or too low. I hate to admit it but we are now a mid table division 2 team and the days of beating the likes of Mayo and Galway etc are gone. A lot of big players either out of form, not as good as they were or simply not 100%.

Rossie2020 (Roscommon) - Posts: 193 - 30/03/2025 10:16:42    2599409

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3563 - 30/03/2025 11:14:37    2599418

Last night continued a pattern of poor form for Roscommon unfortunately. We made Meath look good and they're
really poor. We probably also have given Cavan and Monaghan notions of themselves. Doubt either will be serious contenders in Ulster. Conor Carroll has gone backwards. Some of his kick outs last night were shocking. Keith Doyle has improved this season even though he was beaten on both throw ins last night. I thought Eddie Nolan played well. For all the talk, including in the media, about how good Roscommon's forwards are, we are lacking creativity and invention up front. We are not scoring enough goals and we're not creating enough goal scoring chances. Roscommon have, with the exception of the Cork game, been awful for the latter stages of the League and we're only promoted by the grace of God. Maybe it'll be different come championship but it's difficult to flick a switch and find form. Davy wears his heart on his sleeve and his frustration is obvious. Ultimately though the buck stops with the Manager and he has to take responsibility for his team not performing to the level Roscommon people would expect and hope for.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2348 - 30/03/2025 11:19:22    2599419

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 30 - 30/03/2025 12:30:40    2599426

The main difference I saw between the teams is that Monaghan had a player who was deadly accurate at scoring 2 pointers from frees whereas Roscommon didnt. When Rory Beggan converted 2 kicks in a row at a crucial stage of the 2nd half to put Monaghan 4 points up it left Roscommon chasing the game and put pressure on them to get a 2 pointer back which they were unable to do. When you fall behind like that and your opposition have a greater potential to get 2 pointers from their attacks it piles on the pressure and leads to more elementary mistakes

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1997 - 30/03/2025 12:39:22    2599428

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 30 - 30/03/2025 12:44:54    2599430

Claudio (Roscommon) - Posts: 3 - 30/03/2025 12:48:30    2599434

We all agree that Davy is a passionate guy and it's clear that mark mc hugh had a huge influence on this team and what ever happened for him to move on is coming back to haunt us now. No offence to the current selectors but what they achieved in terms of coaching before coming on board with Davy.

hontherossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 121 - 30/03/2025 12:54:28    2599437

Bewildered. Total collapse again, very worrying trend has crept in. We are division 1 but one thing Davy got right the last few weeks is saying we had no business in a league final! I get that Monaghan punished us for every mistake but when they ran at us with power and pace, McCarthy, O Hanlon, McAnespie, we simply could not live with it. I wasn't overly worried about winning last night, I thought there might be a few changes with London in mind but the fact is, that team that started last night was arguably as strong as we could have gone and we were outclassed. It still appears management have very poor game management. There are players there that one week they are starting, next week they are on the bench. Hand, O Carroll just an example. No consistency. We must have the smallest full back line in the country, we are wide open. As people have said, our highly rated forwards aren't clicking as we would like. It seems there is a reliance on Wnda, Diarmuid, Ciarain to make something happen and if they aren't on song we really struggle. Subs again had very little impact. Good to see Donie back getting minutes, he looks like he needs it because he wasn't sharp at all. Anyway, onto London. Hopefully there will be a change in approach heading into Championship or it could be a short season

D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 259 - 30/03/2025 13:03:02    2599438

Looked back on the match again this morning and feel a little bit better about it. The team played well in the first half and kicked many good scores. The game changed dramatically in the two minute spell (38-40 mins) when Monaghan kicked three 2 pointers and went from 1 point down to 5 points up. We missed 3 or 4 two point shots ourselves and dropped about 3 others into the keepers hands.
There was only 2 points in the game after 56 minutes when Monaghan got the goal.
Not many teams can kick 10 points from 2 pointers. Monaghan are a fine team as some other teams are going to find out in the championship.
Some limited positives:
Keith Doyle playing very well and Eddie Nolan also giving 100%
Ben O Carroll got on a lot of ball and beginning to get his mojo back.
No lack of effort from the players and the likes of Eddie Nolan, Niall Higgins, Dylan Ruane, Ciaran Murtagh and several others put in huge shifts.

All is not lost if they can keep the faith and get the heads right. A lot can change in three or five weeks if we get over London next week. The likes of Ciaran Murtagh did not come back to win a 5th division 2 medal.
Best of luck to Monaghan. They are a fine team.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 703 - 30/03/2025 13:38:12    2599445

Not sure if these rules suit Roscommons style. changes to tactics need to be made that may not suit the type of players you have. Its the same with Galway both teams played a similar style apart from the goalkeepers

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 30/03/2025 14:09:09    2599448

I don't think either side should be overly excited or despondent after last night. It was a very enjoyable game from a Monaghan perspective- we love to see our lads putting on a good show in HQ- but the context is everything. Once Roscommon fell 4 or 5 behind they didn't exert a huge effort to pull it back. They won plenty of primary possession and kept Monaghan's goal threat quiet for long spells so not too bad overall. That said, 4 handy wides from Monaghan early in the second half could have made the damage look worse on the scoreboard.
Great to see a high level of respect among the opposing players too. They're two sets of decent lads- maybe too decent for championship!

What did ye make of the ref? I thought him harsh on Monaghan a few times at the game, but there was a case to answer on second viewing so maybe he was better than I thought. Still, the decisions on overcarrying were random enough.
Good luck in the championship.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1169 - 30/03/2025 14:21:58    2599450

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 30 - 30/03/2025 14:36:47    2599452

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 30 - 30/03/2025 22:43:19    2599579