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Replying To The_analyser:  "Brigids come into to this final with back to back defeats including 8 point loss to Roscommon Gaels so I can imagine they'll be determined to win this final on their home patch. Brigids will be the clear favourite to retain the championship county title but it's seven years since any team retain the senior county title in Roscommon and the last two finals was won by one point.

Was at the Div 2 final last weekend. Dominic's looked the better side for a lot of the game but Glaveys kept popping up with goals and the 3rd from Dylan Ruane proved to be a match winner. Plenty of good young talented footballers showing well in Rob Heneghan,Daniel Hagney,Niall Heneghan,Cian Kelly,Jack Lohan,Jamie Tiernan etc. Senior county players Cathal Heneghan,Keith Doyle showed well also."
I wonder how much those defeats were down to Brigids already pretty much guaranteed a final place. Hopefully it will be a good competitive final.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 12/07/2024 10:44:56    2558510

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As neutral I wanted a more competitive Div 1 final but a determined and ruthless Brigids ended that game as contest early. Of their All Ireland final starting team Cormac Sheehy,Paul McGrath,Eddie Nolan and Ben O'Carroll didn't play. 4 goals two in each half from Surgue,Nugent,B Stack and C Hand. On the evidence of tonight Roscommon Gaels will do well to reach the last 4. While Pearses and Boyle will be the main challenge to Brigids for the county title once more.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3861 - 12/07/2024 21:40:48    2558632

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "I wonder how much those defeats were down to Brigids already pretty much guaranteed a final place. Hopefully it will be a good competitive final."
So much for hoping it being competitive. That's some demolition against the holders. It'll take some team to stop them this year.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 12/07/2024 22:06:44    2558636

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Replying To The_analyser:  "As neutral I wanted a more competitive Div 1 final but a determined and ruthless Brigids ended that game as contest early. Of their All Ireland final starting team Cormac Sheehy,Paul McGrath,Eddie Nolan and Ben O'Carroll didn't play. 4 goals two in each half from Surgue,Nugent,B Stack and C Hand. On the evidence of tonight Roscommon Gaels will do well to reach the last 4. While Pearses and Boyle will be the main challenge to Brigids for the county title once more."
Prediction of a win for St Brigids by a few points was off the mark. Brilliant performance from the team and Ruthless as the game was over at half time. Every player very good and subs making good impact. Cormac an Paul on holidays. Eddie in america and ben injured. Pearse frost was captain and was his usual brilliant self.

Speaking to players last night in bar after and very happy with set up and how squad is playing. anthony Cunningham, owen Mooney and James Martin have a good chemistry on the line from games I have been to.

BrigidsToom (Roscommon) - Posts: 19 - 13/07/2024 10:51:08    2558664

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Replying To BrigidsToom:  "Prediction of a win for St Brigids by a few points was off the mark. Brilliant performance from the team and Ruthless as the game was over at half time. Every player very good and subs making good impact. Cormac an Paul on holidays. Eddie in america and ben injured. Pearse frost was captain and was his usual brilliant self.

Speaking to players last night in bar after and very happy with set up and how squad is playing. anthony Cunningham, owen Mooney and James Martin have a good chemistry on the line from games I have been to."
Will Frost make himself available to the County next season?
A lot of people overestimate Ros Gaels every year it seems.
Boyle and Pearses again the main contenders with Brids.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 13/07/2024 11:14:42    2558667

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Armagh beat Kerry to reach All-Ireland final, a bit more perspective for our defeat in a match played in terrible conditions and we had 14 men for half the match.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3861 - 13/07/2024 19:52:06    2558748

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Armagh beat Kerry to reach All-Ireland final, a bit more perspective for our defeat in a match played in terrible conditions and we had 14 men for half the match."
TheRossies couldhave been easily in the AllIreland final

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3138 - 13/07/2024 20:03:28    2558757

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Armagh beat Kerry to reach All-Ireland final, a bit more perspective for our defeat in a match played in terrible conditions and we had 14 men for half the match."
Roscommon weren't that far away against Armagh but not good enough either on the day. Interesting Final ahead without Dublin or Kerry. Adds an extra bit of spice to tomorrow's match. Galway possibly the best footballing team left but they need players like Shane Walsh and Sean Kelly fit. Armagh have a strong bench. They were so full of running in extra time whereas Kerry seemed out on their feet.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2282 - 13/07/2024 20:26:21    2558785

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Was plenty of criticism on here when Roscommon lost the Quarter final some clearly underrated Armagh.

Roscommon aren't a million miles away but probably need to take a leaf out of Armagh's book and do all that's needed to retain players and have your strongest panel available.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3456 - 13/07/2024 20:33:55    2558789

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Replying To Jack L:  "TheRossies couldhave been easily in the AllIreland final"
Armagh are a battle hardened outfit that have suffered their fair share of very difficult days
All the more reason that Roscommon must stick together and galvanise behind a leader
If mcgeeney was n charge of Roscommon he'd have been turfed out years ago
Good luck to them I hope they win sam

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 627 - 13/07/2024 20:34:56    2558790

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Replying To rossy15:  "Armagh are a battle hardened outfit that have suffered their fair share of very difficult days
All the more reason that Roscommon must stick together and galvanise behind a leader
If mcgeeney was n charge of Roscommon he'd have been turfed out years ago
Good luck to them I hope they win sam"
Hopefully all our best players will commit next year.
Sam could be wide open for a new team in 25.......

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 13/07/2024 20:54:58    2558806

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Replying To endgame:  "Roscommon weren't that far away against Armagh but not good enough either on the day. Interesting Final ahead without Dublin or Kerry. Adds an extra bit of spice to tomorrow's match. Galway possibly the best footballing team left but they need players like Shane Walsh and Sean Kelly fit. Armagh have a strong bench. They were so full of running in extra time whereas Kerry seemed out on their feet."
I underestimated Armagh and over estimated the gap between Dublin and Kerry and the rest. An unbelievable performance from the Armagh men and they looked like they could have played more extra time. I know we weren't that far away from Armagh with two preventable goals the difference but could we have played at that intensity today? When you think how we played against the Dubs and we were gassed after a while. Definitely I would agree we aren't that far behind but intensity, fitness and belief are definitely things we need to improve on. We also need to become harder to beat. Look at the 3 teams left. Very tight at the back which gives them a good platform in every game. Armagh don't lose too many games in normal time. Roscommon could take plenty of inspiration from the likes of Galway and Armagh.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 13/07/2024 21:25:34    2558819

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "I underestimated Armagh and over estimated the gap between Dublin and Kerry and the rest. An unbelievable performance from the Armagh men and they looked like they could have played more extra time. I know we weren't that far away from Armagh with two preventable goals the difference but could we have played at that intensity today? When you think how we played against the Dubs and we were gassed after a while. Definitely I would agree we aren't that far behind but intensity, fitness and belief are definitely things we need to improve on. We also need to become harder to beat. Look at the 3 teams left. Very tight at the back which gives them a good platform in every game. Armagh don't lose too many games in normal time. Roscommon could take plenty of inspiration from the likes of Galway and Armagh."
We need to bring more intensity and fitness to our game.
Being a nice team of skilful footballers won't win the big prizes.
We need warriors and dogs with skill.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 13/07/2024 21:47:26    2558823

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Fantastic win today for Armagh after some very difficult defeats in the last couple of years. (Penalties 4 times). We are not too far off the mark if we get all our players back. We missed probably 3-4 players who had taken a break who would have been on the starting team against Armagh, lost two more before ten minutes, and had a player sent off before half time.
I think that Davy Burke should be given go ahead to continue next year and consider making possible changes to his back-up team. It took Kieran McGeeney nearly 20 years as a manager to get a team to the All Ireland Final having great financial resources and talent to play with. (Kildare & Armagh)

It was interesting when Cork beat Limerick last week that the player of the match thanked Gary Keegan their sports physiologist (Irish Boxing, National Rugby Team, Tipperary hurling All Ireland winners etc) for having a major impact on their performance. We may not have the money to employ someone of Gary's standing for extensive sessions, but it might be worth considering getting in a top performing sports physiologist for a few sessions. I think it might a good addition to Davy's team as we have definitely under performed on a couple of occasions when we should have done better. Hopefully seeing Armagh, Galway and Donegal doing so well this year might encourage nearly all of the players to commit again next year.

Hopefully the club championship will go well and some of the younger players (under 21 and senior) will continue to develop and show promise.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 612 - 13/07/2024 22:17:09    2558832

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Fantastic win today for Armagh after some very difficult defeats in the last couple of years. (Penalties 4 times). We are not too far off the mark if we get all our players back. We missed probably 3-4 players who had taken a break who would have been on the starting team against Armagh, lost two more before ten minutes, and had a player sent off before half time.
I think that Davy Burke should be given go ahead to continue next year and consider making possible changes to his back-up team. It took Kieran McGeeney nearly 20 years as a manager to get a team to the All Ireland Final having great financial resources and talent to play with. (Kildare & Armagh)

It was interesting when Cork beat Limerick last week that the player of the match thanked Gary Keegan their sports physiologist (Irish Boxing, National Rugby Team, Tipperary hurling All Ireland winners etc) for having a major impact on their performance. We may not have the money to employ someone of Gary's standing for extensive sessions, but it might be worth considering getting in a top performing sports physiologist for a few sessions. I think it might a good addition to Davy's team as we have definitely under performed on a couple of occasions when we should have done better. Hopefully seeing Armagh, Galway and Donegal doing so well this year might encourage nearly all of the players to commit again next year.

Hopefully the club championship will go well and some of the younger players (under 21 and senior) will continue to develop and show promise."
I think you hit the nail on the head there, it would be great to get someone like that on board. I think that is why McGuinness had such an instant impact with Donegal, he is a very good manager and sports psychologist rolled into one. You have to admire Donaghy, he seems to take on the coaching role with Armagh with with such passion and the distance he has to cover across the country. He will definitely manager Kerry at some point.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 13/07/2024 22:40:55    2558840

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "We need to bring more intensity and fitness to our game.
Being a nice team of skilful footballers won't win the big prizes.
We need warriors and dogs with skill."
Definitely! It is there if it can just be unlocked,

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 13/07/2024 22:44:00    2558843

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So Galway v Armagh All Ireland final it will be. As I said on the Galway thread. Two very well fit and conditioned teams with good strength in depth the level we'll need to reach if in my lifetime I'll see Roscommon in senior All Ireland final again.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3861 - 14/07/2024 18:17:43    2559034

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Armagh beat Kerry to reach All-Ireland final, a bit more perspective for our defeat in a match played in terrible conditions and we had 14 men for half the match."
For the third year in a row, a Div 2 side will contest an AllIreland Final.
Something for Monaghan and Roscommon to aim for next year

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3138 - 14/07/2024 18:47:11    2559043

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Replying To Jack L:  "For the third year in a row, a Div 2 side will contest an AllIreland Final.
Something for Monaghan and Roscommon to aim for next year"
4th year in a row

Mayo 2021 played in Div 2
Galway 2022 played in Div 2
Dublin 2023 played in Div 2
Armagh 2024 played in Div 2

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 198 - 14/07/2024 20:22:49    2559098

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "4th year in a row

Mayo 2021 played in Div 2
Galway 2022 played in Div 2
Dublin 2023 played in Div 2
Armagh 2024 played in Div 2"
Weren't they all promoted so were technically D1 teams by Championship time.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 14/07/2024 22:05:26    2559130

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