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We can't have the Dubs define our season for us. They'd love to see us whither and die up in Derry, I can assure you of that. They don't want to meet us down the tracks.
For this weekends critical trip for Galway, let's keep the support going lads. It's been great and these lads need it.
Derry are targeting this game and there's a few things they definitely don't want to see us do.
1) They don't want us to man mark Conor Glass. They think that, as with Ciaran Kilkenny, we don't have an ethos of trying to man mark a talisman out of it, at the expense of that marker's own game. We cannot have that mindset up in Celtic Park. We categorically have to man mark that man all day long, from pilar to post, or he'll run the show in midfield and be the fulcrum of everything positive they do.
2) They don't want us to press Ben McKinless's kickouts. If we press the hell out of his restarts, we can put serious pressure on their defence from the start.
3) They don't want us doing hard, direct running at their full back line. McGurk, McEvoy and Baker are more than decent but don't seem to deal particularly well with fast paced, direct, incisive running. I'd like to see us bring it to them upfront on Sunday.
4) They don't want us to stop Brendan Rogers runs at source. Keep him busy with our matchup and tracked hard and early at 6.
5) They don't want us playing at a high tempo from the off. A slow, ponderous, lateral build up of a start will allow them settle very well on their home patch. We need to be powerful out of the blocks this time and hyper disruptive from the throw in!
6) They don't want us tracking Shane McGuigan out to the arc. They're expecting a few two pointers from him, all of which will have to be off his left peg. We need to close that option. Hassle, harry and blocking that left.
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Replying To togoutlads: "We can't have the Dubs define our season for us. They'd love to see us whither and die up in Derry, I can assure you of that. They don't want to meet us down the tracks.
For this weekends critical trip for Galway, let's keep the support going lads. It's been great and these lads need it.
Derry are targeting this game and there's a few things they definitely don't want to see us do.
1) They don't want us to man mark Conor Glass. They think that, as with Ciaran Kilkenny, we don't have an ethos of trying to man mark a talisman out of it, at the expense of that marker's own game. We cannot have that mindset up in Celtic Park. We categorically have to man mark that man all day long, from pilar to post, or he'll run the show in midfield and be the fulcrum of everything positive they do.
2) They don't want us to press Ben McKinless's kickouts. If we press the hell out of his restarts, we can put serious pressure on their defence from the start.
3) They don't want us doing hard, direct running at their full back line. McGurk, McEvoy and Baker are more than decent but don't seem to deal particularly well with fast paced, direct, incisive running. I'd like to see us bring it to them upfront on Sunday.
4) They don't want us to stop Brendan Rogers runs at source. Keep him busy with our matchup and tracked hard and early at 6.
5) They don't want us playing at a high tempo from the off. A slow, ponderous, lateral build up of a start will allow them settle very well on their home patch. We need to be powerful out of the blocks this time and hyper disruptive from the throw in!
6) They don't want us tracking Shane McGuigan out to the arc. They're expecting a few two pointers from him, all of which will have to be off his left peg. We need to close that option. Hassle, harry and blocking that left." Galway do man mark and tag players but agreed strange they didn't with Kilkenny
We've had Maher two years ago and mulkerrins this year man mark enda smyth to great affect
As I said in a previous post Maher may have to sacrifice his game to man mark glass.
Is Lachlan murrray out as he's their forward we struggle with most.
Cassidy is an underrated player we need to be wary of.
I'd be reluctant to have McGrath tag mcguigan again.
A great lad but I think Sean Kelly needs to step up for us Sunday.
Mcdaid and Walsh on 40 should try run legs off rogers
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Replying To systematic: "I actually thought salthill were better than that in hurling mea culpa - thought they did well in intermediate recently. Probably should have picked like annaghdown!
Moycullen hurling aren't exactly knocking over everyone in intermediate either...
As another poster has said, Corofin have a decent amount of hurlers. As do annaghdown and Monivea abbey, a good number of dual players. Would it be wrong in saying north Galway doing it better?" It would be difficult for Moycullen to perform in Intermediate hurling as they're in Senior A….
bollocks (Galway) - Posts: 9 - 28/05/2025 13:31:59
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Replying To fairplay4ever: "Whats your rational behind this order? Can guess why Salthill and Moycullen make your first two and most club people in Galway probably agree but whats your logic on the next 3(Corofin maybe because they just kept winning??)" Milltown because they are thick to play against, Corofin because of the arrogance and Annaghdown well because they are my neighbouring club
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Replying To systematic: "I actually thought salthill were better than that in hurling mea culpa - thought they did well in intermediate recently. Probably should have picked like annaghdown!
Moycullen hurling aren't exactly knocking over everyone in intermediate either...
As another poster has said, Corofin have a decent amount of hurlers. As do annaghdown and Monivea abbey, a good number of dual players. Would it be wrong in saying north Galway doing it better?" Is there hurling in Annaghdown? They are junior at best. i saw them play last year and only for 1-2, there are zero hurlers.
Talking to a hurling man in Annaghdown he said that the committee is all hurling men and are driving the hurling agenda but the problem is that they have junior D hurlers training young lads and they target C competitions just to win games. When they get to secondary school in Claregalway they are gone as Turlough and our lads in Carnmore make the teams. Abbey has more of a tradition so probably a better example of north Galway Hurling.
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As we all know it's a must win match on Sunday Galway definitely need start this game much better than they have being so far even go back to last few league matches poor v Tyrone got draw with Walsh 2 pointer free last kick lost to both dubs and Kerry fairly easily, started bad v mayo and in reality mayo left that one behind big time started poor v dubs last day in my opinion if management set up team right from start that is put players in best position and if player not good enough then he a sub don't be moving them to another position,, i definitely think Need play Mcdaid and Maher midfield 2 great powerful runners puts opposition on back foot no point putting Mcdaid wing forward and he chasing wing back up and down field Ned. Him driving forward need put Sean Kelly into full back even Johnny McGrath is struggling a bit this year i believe it's because not enough pressure on ball coming in so far this year Fitzgerald, Hernon and Mulkerrins have played full back surely that's not good and the best full back they have Kelly has not played there at all and o flaherty best player bar Walsh in league at corner back has played no championship match there it's baffling to me
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1076 - 28/05/2025 17:06:41
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Replying To Kickitout: "As we all know it's a must win match on Sunday Galway definitely need start this game much better than they have being so far even go back to last few league matches poor v Tyrone got draw with Walsh 2 pointer free last kick lost to both dubs and Kerry fairly easily, started bad v mayo and in reality mayo left that one behind big time started poor v dubs last day in my opinion if management set up team right from start that is put players in best position and if player not good enough then he a sub don't be moving them to another position,, i definitely think Need play Mcdaid and Maher midfield 2 great powerful runners puts opposition on back foot no point putting Mcdaid wing forward and he chasing wing back up and down field Ned. Him driving forward need put Sean Kelly into full back even Johnny McGrath is struggling a bit this year i believe it's because not enough pressure on ball coming in so far this year Fitzgerald, Hernon and Mulkerrins have played full back surely that's not good and the best full back they have Kelly has not played there at all and o flaherty best player bar Walsh in league at corner back has played no championship match there it's baffling to me" I'm not sure Kelly is best full back
First he will be restricted at stages if we have him as one of 3 back
Also I've noticed he's getting turned and exposed for pace over first few yards a bit this year if that happens at full back we are in bother.
Playing full back is a trickier role and lot different to role he thrived in 2022 23.
I'm really not sure where best to put him.
Think we found out Oflaherty super player but not a corner back towards end of league.
I'd prob play Mcdaid at 11 to put rogers on back foot.
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1547 - 28/05/2025 18:20:33
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Replying To LottoPlus: "Is there hurling in Annaghdown? They are junior at best. i saw them play last year and only for 1-2, there are zero hurlers.
Talking to a hurling man in Annaghdown he said that the committee is all hurling men and are driving the hurling agenda but the problem is that they have junior D hurlers training young lads and they target C competitions just to win games. When they get to secondary school in Claregalway they are gone as Turlough and our lads in Carnmore make the teams. Abbey has more of a tradition so probably a better example of north Galway Hurling." I know the Kilcommins brothers hurl that's about the extent of my knowledge of them so I figured there was more than just the two lads. I'm not in deep with the hurling club scene clearly!
systematic (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 28/05/2025 18:32:15
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Replying To LottoPlus: "Is there hurling in Annaghdown? They are junior at best. i saw them play last year and only for 1-2, there are zero hurlers.
Talking to a hurling man in Annaghdown he said that the committee is all hurling men and are driving the hurling agenda but the problem is that they have junior D hurlers training young lads and they target C competitions just to win games. When they get to secondary school in Claregalway they are gone as Turlough and our lads in Carnmore make the teams. Abbey has more of a tradition so probably a better example of north Galway Hurling." Annaghdown are intermidiate hurling, comer plays for them
SB123 (Galway) - Posts: 2 - 28/05/2025 18:35:15
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Replying To togoutlads: "If Galway football was all a numbers game, based on population, then you'd be seeing Salthill-Knocknacarra dominating, as they've a catchment population of over 30,000! Knocknacarra alone is over 22,000 pop. Next to dominate should be Tuam (9,600 pop); St Grellan's Ballinasloe (6,600); Loughrea - yes they've strong underage football teams (6,300); Oranmore-Maree (5800); Athenry (4600), Claregalway and catchment, Moycullen and catchment (similar) etc etc. The catchment area populations maybe be slightly higher. But clearly it's not all about population. Serious work obviously has to be going on in juvenile and adult levels to bring success. Smaller clubs with dwindling numbers bemoan the rise of the suburban ring clubs but it's inevitable that some of that converts, again if the work is being done. Complaining about it, nonsense talk of splitting clubs with big populations is not going to get Galway football anywhere. And if these rising clubs are cleaning the boards with county A titles through the various age groups, then why are we still seeing a lack of representation from some of these "less traditional" clubs on county development and underage squads at times, particularly in starting teams, where small B and C clubs sometimes miraculously have 2 or 3 starters and A winners and runners up maybe 1 each! I'm not going into this more but it is happening and lots aware of it." Salthill/Knocknacarra has a big population but there are four soccer clubs, a rugby club, three rowing clubs, athletics and theres hurling in the club too.
SB123 (Galway) - Posts: 2 - 28/05/2025 18:39:22
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Replying To LottoPlus: "Is there hurling in Annaghdown? They are junior at best. i saw them play last year and only for 1-2, there are zero hurlers.
Talking to a hurling man in Annaghdown he said that the committee is all hurling men and are driving the hurling agenda but the problem is that they have junior D hurlers training young lads and they target C competitions just to win games. When they get to secondary school in Claregalway they are gone as Turlough and our lads in Carnmore make the teams. Abbey has more of a tradition so probably a better example of north Galway Hurling." What is your problem with Annaghdown? This is not the first time you have come on here spouting rubbish about them there has been hurling in Annaghdown for years going back to the fifties and they are intermediate not junior and as for coaching you don't have to be a brilliant hurler to be a good coach as for not making school teams from my experience there's always a bias for lads from big clubs at some stage the Annaghdown lads must have stepped on your toes
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Replying To SB123: "Salthill/Knocknacarra has a big population but there are four soccer clubs, a rugby club, three rowing clubs, athletics and theres hurling in the club too." What rugby club is in Salthill/Knocknacarra?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8029 - 29/05/2025 05:47:07
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Replying To GreenandRed: "What rugby club is in Salthill/Knocknacarra?" Alot of them go to Corinthians and Galwegians.Barna have rugby club I think.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 449 - 29/05/2025 07:26:02
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Replying To minor77: "What is your problem with Annaghdown? This is not the first time you have come on here spouting rubbish about them there has been hurling in Annaghdown for years going back to the fifties and they are intermediate not junior and as for coaching you don't have to be a brilliant hurler to be a good coach as for not making school teams from my experience there's always a bias for lads from big clubs at some stage the Annaghdown lads must have stepped on your toes" Totally agree with you about players being coaches.Doesnt always work.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 449 - 29/05/2025 08:02:27
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Replying To togoutlads: "If Galway football was all a numbers game, based on population, then you'd be seeing Salthill-Knocknacarra dominating, as they've a catchment population of over 30,000! Knocknacarra alone is over 22,000 pop. Next to dominate should be Tuam (9,600 pop); St Grellan's Ballinasloe (6,600); Loughrea - yes they've strong underage football teams (6,300); Oranmore-Maree (5800); Athenry (4600), Claregalway and catchment, Moycullen and catchment (similar) etc etc. The catchment area populations maybe be slightly higher. But clearly it's not all about population. Serious work obviously has to be going on in juvenile and adult levels to bring success. Smaller clubs with dwindling numbers bemoan the rise of the suburban ring clubs but it's inevitable that some of that converts, again if the work is being done. Complaining about it, nonsense talk of splitting clubs with big populations is not going to get Galway football anywhere. And if these rising clubs are cleaning the boards with county A titles through the various age groups, then why are we still seeing a lack of representation from some of these "less traditional" clubs on county development and underage squads at times, particularly in starting teams, where small B and C clubs sometimes miraculously have 2 or 3 starters and A winners and runners up maybe 1 each! I'm not going into this more but it is happening and lots aware of it." Galways least successful underage teams in recent years have had a flood of Oranmore players on them
t.g (Galway) - Posts: 110 - 29/05/2025 11:27:53
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We had previous discussions on here going back a while about the demise of Galway underage football and looking at what other counties are doing. Well whatever about Kerry and Louth underage structures bearing fruit, can Galway please now take a serious look at Tyrone's underage program. They annihilated Louth in the U20 final last night and have now won a remarkable 3 of the last 4 u20 all Irelands. Yes there are some great individual talents involved over a couple of those titles (brilliant corner forward Grimes and senior panellist and centre half forward McElholm, to name two) but there's more going on up there besides.
Tyrone implemented big forward thinking strategic plans, one in 2018 and another one running from 2023-27. The coaching and prep of underage teams has seemingly improved dramatically. They link up strongly with the main footballing schools, in particular Omagh CBS, winners of back to back Hogan Cups. There's a conveyor belt of talent coming. Why couldn't Galway try to do something similar? Instead, we've become also rans in Connacht, never mind nationally. Get their blueprint and at least take a look!
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In my opinion a big problem in Galway is club underage is a joke no proper under 16 competing at all play 3 games in Aug -sept and these same players are ur county minors a few months later the majority of counties have gone back to even ages at underage I think at least 20 counties maybe more but if u bring it up at a county meeting in Galway ur shot down straight away won't even entertain any discussion at all I always thought that the county board were there to facilitate the will of the clubs but not in Galway and u reap what u sow a very sub standard minor and under 20 teams can't understand when county is under 20 why is club under 19 need go under 18 and 20 at club but unfortunately in our county no one will listen to delegates top table rules no proper discussion when the present county board chairman was canvassing for job he was going do everything and include clubs in discussions but when he got job he did absolutely nothing a yes man for his buddies ,,
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1076 - 29/05/2025 15:09:36
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Replying To togoutlads: "We had previous discussions on here going back a while about the demise of Galway underage football and looking at what other counties are doing. Well whatever about Kerry and Louth underage structures bearing fruit, can Galway please now take a serious look at Tyrone's underage program. They annihilated Louth in the U20 final last night and have now won a remarkable 3 of the last 4 u20 all Irelands. Yes there are some great individual talents involved over a couple of those titles (brilliant corner forward Grimes and senior panellist and centre half forward McElholm, to name two) but there's more going on up there besides.
Tyrone implemented big forward thinking strategic plans, one in 2018 and another one running from 2023-27. The coaching and prep of underage teams has seemingly improved dramatically. They link up strongly with the main footballing schools, in particular Omagh CBS, winners of back to back Hogan Cups. There's a conveyor belt of talent coming. Why couldn't Galway try to do something similar? Instead, we've become also rans in Connacht, never mind nationally. Get their blueprint and at least take a look!" Galway have won 4 all Irelands at that age in the past 20 years with the last one only 5 years ago. That's loads! As long as you are competing every few years and getting a few lads regularly into senior. Sure Kerry haven't won at that grade in a long time. Donegal or Armagh either.
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Replying To Alwaysencourage: "Alot of them go to Corinthians and Galwegians.Barna have rugby club I think." Yeah. Barna Knocknacarra have a club but don't think they've any adult teams yet. Could also play for NUIG or OLBC. Where does the boundary between St Michael's and Salthill/Knocknacarra border the clubs and can youth players switch between them based on schools attended or other reasons? Apologies, nothing to do with the topic, asking out of nosiness!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8029 - 29/05/2025 16:56:29
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Yeah. Barna Knocknacarra have a club but don't think they've any adult teams yet. Could also play for NUIG or OLBC. Where does the boundary between St Michael's and Salthill/Knocknacarra border the clubs and can youth players switch between them based on schools attended or other reasons? Apologies, nothing to do with the topic, asking out of nosiness!" In general city clubs don't have boundaries but could be wrong.Schools don't have anything to do with it as far as I know but could be wrong.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 449 - 29/05/2025 19:06:58
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