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I don't think management can be blamed for the defeat (not saying you are saying that either btw). It was a combination of things. Certainly though - in my opinion - they could have done more in-game. Shane should have been taken off the frees as it was clear he was having an off day. Gleeson with the long range ones, Tierney from the right and PC from everywhere else was clearly the call that should have been made. Also Mulkerrin was clearly targeted by Armagh as no offensive threat whatsoever. O Flaherty should have been on in that number 7 position as SM just constantly recycled and offered nothing. Bit of course having said all of that we still win the game if some of those relatively straightforward frees are converted. galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1289 - 13/08/2024 15:02:41 2564975 Link 1 |
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I've said it here numerous times, Barry McHugh should have been in the panel. He is the best free taker in the county. He would have nailed all them missed frees. GDL (Galway) - Posts: 774 - 13/08/2024 15:37:47 2564984 Link 2 |
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Was on the panel before didn't seem to have the discipline or commitment to stay on the panel. I'd focus more on who was on the field of play or options to bring off the bench to take frees. In the league I've seen Tierney kick frees against the wind over the bar yet wasn't given any in the AI final and then subbed off.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 266 - 13/08/2024 15:49:57 2564987 Link 0 |
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Club is starting this weekend lets get predictions in: Redzer99 (Waterford) - Posts: 84 - 13/08/2024 16:22:50 2564995 Link 0 |
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Salthill Caherlistrane St james Dunmore Corofin Tuam Milltown Barna Dunmore10 (Galway) - Posts: 148 - 13/08/2024 16:40:08 2564998 Link 0 |
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Salt hill by 5 Cahetlistrane by 3 James by 3 Draw think dunmore could shock a few this year Corofin by 7 Tuam by 1 Milltown by 2 Annaghdown by 2 A lot of guesswork with who will be available the last group has 4 teams who could end up in any of four positions Milltown could sneak it annaghdown Barna could be missing comer and hernon Corofin great value think Salthill might push them closest. jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1300 - 13/08/2024 16:45:01 2564999 Link 0 |
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I don't know why he wasn't included, but if we had Barry McHugh in the panel for the past few years, we'd have won the Division 2 final v Roscommon, the Division 1 final v Mayo and the 2024 All Ireland, which were all lost due to poor free taking. He nails frees and keeps other teams honest as they know he'll punish fouls.
GDL (Galway) - Posts: 774 - 13/08/2024 18:10:44 2565008 Link 1 |
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Mountbellew Leitir Móir St. James Maigh Cuilinn Corofin Tuam Draw Annaghdown WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2210 - 13/08/2024 19:06:10 2565014 Link 0 |
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I think that Tierney's injury meant he couldn't kick the ball off the ground without aggravating it. Agree with you on Barry McHugh, good player but he had a few chances and probably just lacking that yard of pace to make it. I don't understand why O Curraoin couldn't make the bench, mustn't have been impressing them in training. I've seen Heaney take frees accurately at club level but would have been a big ask unless he had been tried at training. All in all, was hard to envisage Shane having such an off day (not that he owes us anything with all that he has achieved for us in past games and this year)
Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 402 - 13/08/2024 19:09:57 2565016 Link 0 |
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Interesting point about SM going forward, but what about SM at the back on the day? Not the force we saw v Dublin at the quarter final certainly. Clearly targeted by Armagh on the day, and Oisín Conaty did come away with motm. Would leave one questioning the wisdom of dropping Daly so comprehensively from the final, while naming him as first substitute.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3906 - 13/08/2024 19:16:13 2565017 Link 0 |
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Mountbellew by 3 C.Hopper (USA) - Posts: 49 - 14/08/2024 09:32:38 2565048 Link 0 |
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Hard to understand why Jack Glynn was the man hooked when SM was struggling.
crankyincorofin (Galway) - Posts: 98 - 14/08/2024 10:17:03 2565055 Link 0 |
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Salthill even without Finnerty who had an op should beat Mountbellew Naomh Anna to beat Caherlistrane Monivea to shock James Moycullen to bear Dunmore Corofin will win easily Claregalway to beat a Tuam team who are heavily defensive Killanin to beat Milltown Annaghdown if Comer plays to beat Barna Belclare7 (Galway) - Posts: 143 - 14/08/2024 11:33:29 2565063 Link 0 |
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Salthill V Mountbellew - Draw Naomh Anna by 2 Monivea by 1 Moycullen by 5 Corofin by 5 Tuam vs Claregalway - Draw Milltown by 2 Annaghdown by 2 LetsPlayBall (Galway) - Posts: 64 - 14/08/2024 12:20:07 2565070 Link 0 |
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O Curraoin not on the bench a bit of mystery also. As you say Heaney has showed well on frees and even Conroy has been fairly decent on them. With such a stocked management team surely one of them should have known to switch Shane off frees in the AI final.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 266 - 14/08/2024 19:31:12 2565148 Link 0 |
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Its easy to see . and to say , now, that Shane should have been pulled from frees. But to be honest at the time every free that he stepped up to , I was certain he was going to score , as he hasnt gone gone from a brilliant kicker to a poor one overnight. But his bad day shooting ( he was actually good in general play) continued and surprised everyone - not sure why. I wonder how many people who are blaming management now , with the wisdom of hindsight , actually called this change in real time.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 15/08/2024 08:44:11 2565180 Link 0 |
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It all comes back to playing injured players...
Salthillsham (Galway) - Posts: 43 - 15/08/2024 08:58:44 2565182 Link 0 |
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Salthill Caherlistrane St James Dunmore Corofin Claregalway Milltown Annaghdown MrVelo (Galway) - Posts: 21 - 15/08/2024 09:05:49 2565186 Link 0 |
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Possibly. But I really dont blame management. Was never a huge fan of Padraig Joyce as a manager, but you cant argue with his record.. Galway have become a top team under his tenure. A solid Div 1 team bar one unlucky slip and immediate return to and from Div 2. 3 Connacht titles in a row. 2 All Ireland finals in 3 years. 4 championship defeats in 3 years, 3 of which were 1 point losses and one was a four point loss in AI that was never really a four point game. Unlucky this year with injuries but , whether by accident or design , new leaders emerged in their absence. Likely we will get 5 All Stars, same as 2022 with no overlap, which is a massive , if not unique stat. The key now is for us all to get behind team and management for 2025, unearth some more talent and evolve further. We need to get to the stage where we can rack up bigger scores. Its disappointing that with all with all our good results against top 10 teams we struggle to ease past teams below that level in a manner like Dublin and Kerry can. anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 15/08/2024 11:37:12 2565223 Link 0 |
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I agree with you, I'm fully behind PJ, brilliant lad. I really believe he will not use the injured lads in knockout championship again. Lesson learned, I have myself convinced anyway. Looking forward to 2025. maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1218 - 15/08/2024 12:14:59 2565231 Link 0 |