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Replying To Marooned: "Galway lost 8 of their own kick outs against Kerry. Unsustainable numbers." Depressing watching the Sunday game analysis of our kick outs. In literally every case there was another better option both long and short than the option we went with. You are right, it's totally unsustainable and thats nothing to do with missing players
Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 373 - 24/03/2024 22:26:33
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Div 1 status was secured with that win in Tyrone some weeks ago, were always going to beat Monaghan and the point in Hyde Park was huge one as would be down without it.
Wasn't great today but only lost by two points away to Kerry when it looked like the margin would be a lot bigger. With players coming back from injury should be alright shape to give the expected Connacht final a right good rattle.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 96 - 24/03/2024 22:55:46
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Replying To Trucker1: "Depressing watching the Sunday game analysis of our kick outs. In literally every case there was another better option both long and short than the option we went with. You are right, it's totally unsustainable and thats nothing to do with missing players" Agreed. It's on management at this stage. Their forward coaching is blatantly bad so not hard to believe the lack of progress with Gleeson might be how he's coached.
Like another poster said staying out on the pitch at half time to practice kickouts while his teammates are in the dressing room was a management instruction not a Gleeson decision.
galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 24/03/2024 22:57:22
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Not the keepers fault as he doesn't pick himself but he is very stiff and robotic when kicking the ball. He telegraphs what he is going to do and takes an age to wind up and get a kick away. Not surprising that opposition have begun to read Galway's kick outs. Not sure management are making life easier for him either. Every opposition we face from now on would be mad not to push up on every single Galway kick out.
Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2216 - 24/03/2024 23:33:35
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We stayed up without are 7 best players. Shane Walsh, Damien Comer, Sean Kelly, Cillian Mc Daid, Matthew Tierney, Peter Cooke and Liam Silke.
Conroy, Finnerty and Tomo Culhane were missing at various stages of the league too.
It's a great achievement to have stayed up. I think we are the only county in division 1 who could have managed this. Saying that though wouldn't have bothered me getting relegated. You can gain serious momentum from being in division 2. Mayo reached a final from division 2 in 2021, we reached a final from division 2 in 2022 and Dublin won it last year from division 3.
There's plenty of issues but there are plenty of positives.
We won't compete for Sam unless we have a full panel come knockout stages of the championship though.
centrefield99 (Galway) - Posts: 102 - 25/03/2024 02:38:47
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Replying To centrefield99: "We stayed up without are 7 best players. Shane Walsh, Damien Comer, Sean Kelly, Cillian Mc Daid, Matthew Tierney, Peter Cooke and Liam Silke.
Conroy, Finnerty and Tomo Culhane were missing at various stages of the league too.
It's a great achievement to have stayed up. I think we are the only county in division 1 who could have managed this. Saying that though wouldn't have bothered me getting relegated. You can gain serious momentum from being in division 2. Mayo reached a final from division 2 in 2021, we reached a final from division 2 in 2022 and Dublin won it last year from division 3.
There's plenty of issues but there are plenty of positives.
We won't compete for Sam unless we have a full panel come knockout stages of the championship though." Cooke isn't on the panel, no point mentioning him. You may go as far and mention Joyce, Donnellan, Mannion, De Paor etc. under that logic. Let's deal with players actually confirmed as on the panel this year.
Even with Walsh, Comer, McDaid back, the build up play will be slow and ponderous. It was every game last year and will be same this year. Galway struggle carrying the ball in contact and don't have the fast hands needed.
Aside from kickouts, our biggest issue is the slow build up play and lack of ideas. Our half back line don't have the skill or pace to cause top teams issues.
Also, our shooting isn't anywhere near good enough for a top county. Look at the regular scoring Derry, Dublin (who have not been playing a full team), Kerry have done in the league. Even last year with players available, our scoring averages were very low in comparison.
Biggest issue is kickouts. We cannot retain possession from our kickouts and it is killing us. Has done for years. As limited as Gleeson is (his range and accuracy of kickouts is so limited compared to Lavelle, Power, Breatnach, James Healy and many other top Galway club keepers) the biggest issue is a lack of movement. When there is a bit of movement Gleeson more often than not still aims safe and long.
In summary, Galway are not good enough, skillful enough, athletic enough, or tactically astute enough. We concede too much and score too little (even with the top players back). I think with everyone available and sharp, we could beat Derry, Kerry on our day (with luck) but Dublin are a different level. I would have us 6ish behind Dublin, Kerry, Derry, Mayo, Tyrone - on par with Armagh/ Donegal. I wouldn't have us favourites against any of them. But would watch in hope.
jobseekersbent (Galway) - Posts: 373 - 25/03/2024 08:30:26
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Replying To Marooned: "Not the keepers fault as he doesn't pick himself but he is very stiff and robotic when kicking the ball. He telegraphs what he is going to do and takes an age to wind up and get a kick away. Not surprising that opposition have begun to read Galway's kick outs. Not sure management are making life easier for him either. Every opposition we face from now on would be mad not to push up on every single Galway kick out." 31 seconds between the ball going dead and kick out being taken. During the 6 in a row, Cluxton averaged 9
smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 365 - 25/03/2024 09:33:11
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How have Salthill become such a powerhouse in football with 5 eventually playing on the team yesterday. Maher and to a lesser extend O Flaherty are the only 2 probably good enough. Corofin have 6 but you would not mind that as they are a decent outfit with great tradition, though Egan and McCabe are 1-2 years too early in physicality. I had so much respect for Joyce but I believe he is out of his depth and is playing players based on passed glories. Where are the other club representation and there is plenty of players out there who carry their club team who are better that the at least 10 of the 26 panel members yesterday.
LottoPlus (Kilkenny) - Posts: 55 - 25/03/2024 10:41:20
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Replying To LottoPlus: "How have Salthill become such a powerhouse in football with 5 eventually playing on the team yesterday. Maher and to a lesser extend O Flaherty are the only 2 probably good enough. Corofin have 6 but you would not mind that as they are a decent outfit with great tradition, though Egan and McCabe are 1-2 years too early in physicality. I had so much respect for Joyce but I believe he is out of his depth and is playing players based on passed glories. Where are the other club representation and there is plenty of players out there who carry their club team who are better that the at least 10 of the 26 panel members yesterday." Based on tradition, we should be picking more players from Tuam, Ballinasloe and Dunmore also, but who these players are exactly is an unknown.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3422 - 25/03/2024 10:54:22
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it has been mentioned countless times already but is gleason told to slow down when the ball goes dead / he walks up so slowly and then either misplaces short one or fires it long to no one / of course its not all his fault but he is very predictable / how have joyce and co never worked on this
we are really missing point takers finnerty o'cuuran conroy aside from team yesterday/ there is a case of players becoming better when they are injured/ walsh and kelly have both played 2 games each if i remember correctly and made very little impact on those games/ of course we need everyone back/ mcdaid and comer have been out so long so not like there going to come back at 100%
conaught championship stanard will be very poor this year if league is anything to go off
cavan.galway (Galway) - Posts: 185 - 25/03/2024 11:01:12
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Any one know If the London/Galway game is sold out? The tickmaster link isn't working the last couple of days. Any information?
WonTon5 (Galway) - Posts: 9 - 25/03/2024 11:07:36
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Gleeson back giving us heart attacks again. Thought we started well but man did we fizzle out.
Absolutely wiped out at midfield. Maher is an honest player but literally has zero footballing ability and is very weak in the air. When Kerry pushed up on the kickouts and we had to go long, it wasn't good. Conroy has many good traits but high fielding isn't one of them.
Very weak up front. I didn't realise Cunningham was playing until he was being taken off. As we all know, Cein Darcy is nowhere near the level required. PJ better pray that he gets a few bodies back.
MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 165 - 25/03/2024 11:18:28
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Staying up a huge positive, kickouts a disaster in the 2nd half but how many times did they give the ball away needlessly yesterday? Time and time again had passing to a player under enough pressure.
No issue with D'Arcy's commitment levels and he's probably playing to add some height and physicality in the middle 3rd but he's shown he's so out of his depth, he really struggled again. Eoghan Kelly too again really struggled, hope I'm wrong but he doesn't look good enough at this level but with all the players missing lads have got game time they probably wouldn't.
Feeling is this season will be another write off, its not a coincidence with injuries at this stage. Someone is at fault!!
TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 25/03/2024 11:27:25
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Replying To jobseekersbent: "Cooke isn't on the panel, no point mentioning him. You may go as far and mention Joyce, Donnellan, Mannion, De Paor etc. under that logic. Let's deal with players actually confirmed as on the panel this year.
Even with Walsh, Comer, McDaid back, the build up play will be slow and ponderous. It was every game last year and will be same this year. Galway struggle carrying the ball in contact and don't have the fast hands needed.
Aside from kickouts, our biggest issue is the slow build up play and lack of ideas. Our half back line don't have the skill or pace to cause top teams issues.
Also, our shooting isn't anywhere near good enough for a top county. Look at the regular scoring Derry, Dublin (who have not been playing a full team), Kerry have done in the league. Even last year with players available, our scoring averages were very low in comparison.
Biggest issue is kickouts. We cannot retain possession from our kickouts and it is killing us. Has done for years. As limited as Gleeson is (his range and accuracy of kickouts is so limited compared to Lavelle, Power, Breatnach, James Healy and many other top Galway club keepers) the biggest issue is a lack of movement. When there is a bit of movement Gleeson more often than not still aims safe and long.
In summary, Galway are not good enough, skillful enough, athletic enough, or tactically astute enough. We concede too much and score too little (even with the top players back). I think with everyone available and sharp, we could beat Derry, Kerry on our day (with luck) but Dublin are a different level. I would have us 6ish behind Dublin, Kerry, Derry, Mayo, Tyrone - on par with Armagh/ Donegal. I wouldn't have us favourites against any of them. But would watch in hope." Dont underestimate the impact these players will have.
Comer and Walsh alone will give us huge options and will change our style of play. One of 2 things happens when these lads are playing.
1. Oppostion are more wary and they either double mark or give more sweeper cover which gives us more space out the field,
2. Opposition dont double mark and we have huge options on giving long ball in to FF line. We lose too many of the balls direct into FF because lads are not consistently in front or physically able to win. With these guys playing our style will ( or should ) change.
Kelly and McDaid give us some penetrating run options that we are currently limited on, although Heaney has really stepped up to the plate in that regard.
Matt Tierney will also give us more options both as a middle third ball winner and as an attacking option.
But the key is getting these guys fit.. I agree that without them we could still win Connacht and/or still get to a prelim QF, but that would be the extent of it
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 840 - 25/03/2024 11:38:12
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Replying To jobseekersbent: "Cooke isn't on the panel, no point mentioning him. You may go as far and mention Joyce, Donnellan, Mannion, De Paor etc. under that logic. Let's deal with players actually confirmed as on the panel this year.
Even with Walsh, Comer, McDaid back, the build up play will be slow and ponderous. It was every game last year and will be same this year. Galway struggle carrying the ball in contact and don't have the fast hands needed.
Aside from kickouts, our biggest issue is the slow build up play and lack of ideas. Our half back line don't have the skill or pace to cause top teams issues.
Also, our shooting isn't anywhere near good enough for a top county. Look at the regular scoring Derry, Dublin (who have not been playing a full team), Kerry have done in the league. Even last year with players available, our scoring averages were very low in comparison.
Biggest issue is kickouts. We cannot retain possession from our kickouts and it is killing us. Has done for years. As limited as Gleeson is (his range and accuracy of kickouts is so limited compared to Lavelle, Power, Breatnach, James Healy and many other top Galway club keepers) the biggest issue is a lack of movement. When there is a bit of movement Gleeson more often than not still aims safe and long.
In summary, Galway are not good enough, skillful enough, athletic enough, or tactically astute enough. We concede too much and score too little (even with the top players back). I think with everyone available and sharp, we could beat Derry, Kerry on our day (with luck) but Dublin are a different level. I would have us 6ish behind Dublin, Kerry, Derry, Mayo, Tyrone - on par with Armagh/ Donegal. I wouldn't have us favourites against any of them. But would watch in hope." James Healy the Corofin Intermediate goalie you are referring too?
MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 165 - 25/03/2024 11:53:25
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Replying To anotheralias: "Dont underestimate the impact these players will have.
Comer and Walsh alone will give us huge options and will change our style of play. One of 2 things happens when these lads are playing.
1. Oppostion are more wary and they either double mark or give more sweeper cover which gives us more space out the field,
2. Opposition dont double mark and we have huge options on giving long ball in to FF line. We lose too many of the balls direct into FF because lads are not consistently in front or physically able to win. With these guys playing our style will ( or should ) change.
Kelly and McDaid give us some penetrating run options that we are currently limited on, although Heaney has really stepped up to the plate in that regard.
Matt Tierney will also give us more options both as a middle third ball winner and as an attacking option.
But the key is getting these guys fit.. I agree that without them we could still win Connacht and/or still get to a prelim QF, but that would be the extent of it" Fair points. I have no doubt they will improve us but I think not as much as people expect or hope.
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Replying To MapleSyrup: "James Healy the Corofin Intermediate goalie you are referring too?" No that would be Tom Healy, former Galway senior keeper and U21 winning goalkeeper. James is his cousin and is the Annaghdown No.1.
GDL (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 25/03/2024 12:06:02
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Loads of positives and we can be happy with division 1 status. We can thank Derry for that in fairness.
We can only use fit players so its time to stop the discussion about who might be available. We saw what unfit players could do against Mayo last year. PJ essentially said yesterday that the 26 yesterday will be our Connacht Championship squad. He is honest about it. The main talking point about what is under our control is the kick out strategy. This is on management and I trust this will be seriously worked on. The predictability of Gleeson was not punished too much yesterday, but PJ has time now to fix this issue. I was delighted to see Gleeson attempt for goal at the last seconds.
He is a good keeper but needs a bit of help from the line. McGrath, Maher, Daly, Fitzgerald, Heaney, were great
maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 25/03/2024 13:09:00
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Replying To MapleSyrup: "James Healy the Corofin Intermediate goalie you are referring too?" James Healy is the Annaghdown goalie.
Galway minor keeper in 2013
galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1241 - 25/03/2024 13:18:41
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Replying To WonTon5: "Any one know If the London/Galway game is sold out? The tickmaster link isn't working the last couple of days. Any information?" I had problems with ticketmaster also try the London gaa wesite there is a link on there that brings you directly to the ticket sale on ticketmaster
minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 25/03/2024 13:22:00
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