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Replying To Oldtourman: "In fairness, even at county level, success often depends on Golden Generations." Very true. It makes me admire Kerry in football and Kilkenny in hurling even more when you consider neither county has the biggest population, and have no real advantage over any other county yet win so consistently. It's like both of them counties have one long continuous Golden Generation.
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If a Senior Club has a Junior A team good enough to win Junior A they deserve to be promoted to Intermediate.
The chances of them winning Intermediate are practically zero.
It only happened once....1998 Athenry Senior Champions and Intermediate Champions. Actually that's how Craughwell got promoted to Senior because they lost the Intermediate Final to Athenry and Athenrys 2nd team could not get promoted to Senior because they already had a Senior team.
Intermediate Quarter Finals
Killimor v Turloughmore 2nd Team................. .....Killimor
Rahoon-Newcastle v Craughwell 2nd Team.........Rahoon
Kinvara v Sylane........................................................Kinvara
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Abbeyknockmoy....................Eyrecourt
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2423 - 09/09/2022 08:55:24
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Replying To Trump2020: "Very true. It makes me admire Kerry in football and Kilkenny in hurling even more when you consider neither county has the biggest population, and have no real advantage over any other county yet win so consistently. It's like both of them counties have one long continuous Golden Generation." Well if you play one code to the almost exclusion of all others, it does help. Having said that I agree that both counties have remarkable records.
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Replying To katser: "If a Senior Club has a Junior A team good enough to win Junior A they deserve to be promoted to Intermediate.
The chances of them winning Intermediate are practically zero.
It only happened once....1998 Athenry Senior Champions and Intermediate Champions. Actually that's how Craughwell got promoted to Senior because they lost the Intermediate Final to Athenry and Athenrys 2nd team could not get promoted to Senior because they already had a Senior team.
Intermediate Quarter Finals
Killimor v Turloughmore 2nd Team................. .....Killimor
Rahoon-Newcastle v Craughwell 2nd Team.........Rahoon
Kinvara v Sylane........................................................Kinvara
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Abbeyknockmoy....................Eyrecourt" I wouldnt sleep on Sylane....the dark horses in my eyes
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Well if you play one code to the almost exclusion of all others, it does help. Having said that I agree that both counties have remarkable records." Totally agree with Trump, and even if I don't really like to see either Kerry or Kilkenny winning (I wouldn't give either an inch), I totally respect both and love how they play the game and evolve no matter what direction the game takes.
OTM, while I wouldn't know much about football in Kilkenny, I did live in Kerry for a number of years, many years ago now, and rarely have I ever met people anywhere in the world as passionate about their sport and teams as North Kerry people are about their hurling: Ballyduff, Kilmoyley, Ardfert, Lixnaw and places like that live and die for the game, and they'd chat in the pub afterwards until the cows come home. Wonderful people!
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Replying To CillTormoir: "weve had a golden generation this last 6/7 years and 1 AI to show for it!!" Waterford have had a golden generation and have nothing to show, so while i'd like more than one, i'll take one
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Replying To katser: "If a Senior Club has a Junior A team good enough to win Junior A they deserve to be promoted to Intermediate.
The chances of them winning Intermediate are practically zero.
It only happened once....1998 Athenry Senior Champions and Intermediate Champions. Actually that's how Craughwell got promoted to Senior because they lost the Intermediate Final to Athenry and Athenrys 2nd team could not get promoted to Senior because they already had a Senior team.
Intermediate Quarter Finals
Killimor v Turloughmore 2nd Team................. .....Killimor
Rahoon-Newcastle v Craughwell 2nd Team.........Rahoon
Kinvara v Sylane........................................................Kinvara
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Abbeyknockmoy....................Eyrecourt" Craughwell (outside bet)
Killimor
Eyrecourt ( with a few to spare)
Sylane (with a handful to spare)
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Replying To CillTormoir: "Craughwell (outside bet)
Killimor
Eyrecourt ( with a few to spare)
Sylane (with a handful to spare)" Craughwell won't come within 10pts of Rahoon-Newcastle, If CW is back for Kinvara they will beat Sylane handy but either way Kinvara would be expected to win. Eyrecourt and Abbeyknockmoy should be a tough battle but Eyrecourt are determined to get back to Senior where they belong all though Meelick-Eyrecourt v Killimor would be a humdinger of a Intermediate Final!!
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Replying To katser: "Craughwell won't come within 10pts of Rahoon-Newcastle, If CW is back for Kinvara they will beat Sylane handy but either way Kinvara would be expected to win. Eyrecourt and Abbeyknockmoy should be a tough battle but Eyrecourt are determined to get back to Senior where they belong all though Meelick-Eyrecourt v Killimor would be a humdinger of a Intermediate Final!!" Sylane will be favourites. Went far last year and Kinvara apparently struggled big time against Annaghdown although I was not there
No word on Whelan being back anytime soon but I have no inside information on that!
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Replying To katser: "Craughwell won't come within 10pts of Rahoon-Newcastle, If CW is back for Kinvara they will beat Sylane handy but either way Kinvara would be expected to win. Eyrecourt and Abbeyknockmoy should be a tough battle but Eyrecourt are determined to get back to Senior where they belong all though Meelick-Eyrecourt v Killimor would be a humdinger of a Intermediate Final!!" CW away until Christmas. I stand over my picks so we'll check back in on the 18th ;)
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Well if you play one code to the almost exclusion of all others, it does help. Having said that I agree that both counties have remarkable records." Fair point but there are many counties that are very one sided in a particular code yet still don't do much.
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Killimor v Turloughmore B Killimor by 8
Rahoon-Newcastle v Craughwell Rahoon by 4
Kinvara v Sylane Kinvara by 7
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Abbeyknockmoy Eyrecourt by 2
Easy money!
Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 169 - 14/09/2022 11:02:10
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Totally agree with Trump, and even if I don't really like to see either Kerry or Kilkenny winning (I wouldn't give either an inch), I totally respect both and love how they play the game and evolve no matter what direction the game takes.
OTM, while I wouldn't know much about football in Kilkenny, I did live in Kerry for a number of years, many years ago now, and rarely have I ever met people anywhere in the world as passionate about their sport and teams as North Kerry people are about their hurling: Ballyduff, Kilmoyley, Ardfert, Lixnaw and places like that live and die for the game, and they'd chat in the pub afterwards until the cows come home. Wonderful people!" I think what Kerry & KK have is good structures and quality coaching. That will take you a long way.
I note Kerry didn't have a great underage success rate until the last decade. I wonder was this because they focused on the skills rather than the win at all costs mentality we seem to have had at underage level. It will be interesting to see what their transition to senior success is from the minor success they have had recently. Will it be better than when they were not winning underage?
A few lads from Kerry "emigrated" to my part of the world. None were overly athletic types!!! But it struck me playing gaa or soccer with them how comfortable they were with a ball. It seems to be bred into them. Even the "non footballers" are fairly handy.
If kids are coached focused on the ball, and master the basics left and right a lot of the other essentials are easily coachable to an older person. If you get that mentality across all clubs then all of a sudden you have a really strong base of players and with a county the size of ours you would expect to be producing a number of top class players every year. Development squads are all well and good but if you can get the skills focus across all clubs then all clubs are sudo dev squads.
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Replying To Mayonman: "I think what Kerry & KK have is good structures and quality coaching. That will take you a long way.
I note Kerry didn't have a great underage success rate until the last decade. I wonder was this because they focused on the skills rather than the win at all costs mentality we seem to have had at underage level. It will be interesting to see what their transition to senior success is from the minor success they have had recently. Will it be better than when they were not winning underage?
A few lads from Kerry "emigrated" to my part of the world. None were overly athletic types!!! But it struck me playing gaa or soccer with them how comfortable they were with a ball. It seems to be bred into them. Even the "non footballers" are fairly handy.
If kids are coached focused on the ball, and master the basics left and right a lot of the other essentials are easily coachable to an older person. If you get that mentality across all clubs then all of a sudden you have a really strong base of players and with a county the size of ours you would expect to be producing a number of top class players every year. Development squads are all well and good but if you can get the skills focus across all clubs then all clubs are sudo dev squads." Corofin is prime example of good coaching they always focus on the basic skills from a very young age being able to kick with both feet pass of both left and right accurate kick passing you also notice that they really get competitive from minor on
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Senior Championship Round 4
Tommy Larkins v Craughwell...................................Larkins
Kilconeiron v Gort....................................................Kilconeiron
Cappataggle v Loughrea.........................................Loughrea
St.Thomas v Turloughmore.....................................Thomas'
Clarinbridge v Castlegar..........................................Bridge
Killimordaly v sarsfields..........................................Killimordaly
Mullagh v Portumna...............................................Mullagh
Ardrahan v Ahasragh-Fohenagh..........................Ardrahan
Liam Mellows v Padraig Pearses.........................Mellows
Tynagh Abbey-Duniry v Beagh.............................TAD
Moycullen v Kilnadeema-Leitrim........................Moycullen
Athenry v Oranmore-Maree................................Athenry
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Replying To minor77: "Corofin is prime example of good coaching they always focus on the basic skills from a very young age being able to kick with both feet pass of both left and right accurate kick passing you also notice that they really get competitive from minor on" It is very noticeable particularly in the last few years that perceived "weaker" Corofin minor sides have put it up to the fancied Claregalway teams because the Corofin lads know their style of play from u8 to senior. They don't always have great teams but they will always be competitive because the basics are drilled into them from coaches.
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Replying To katser: "Senior Championship Round 4
Tommy Larkins v Craughwell...................................Larkins
Kilconeiron v Gort....................................................Kilconeiron
Cappataggle v Loughrea.........................................Loughrea
St.Thomas v Turloughmore.....................................Thomas'
Clarinbridge v Castlegar..........................................Bridge
Killimordaly v sarsfields..........................................Killimordaly
Mullagh v Portumna...............................................Mullagh
Ardrahan v Ahasragh-Fohenagh..........................Ardrahan
Liam Mellows v Padraig Pearses.........................Mellows
Tynagh Abbey-Duniry v Beagh.............................TAD
Moycullen v Kilnadeema-Leitrim........................Moycullen
Athenry v Oranmore-Maree................................Athenry" thats two cracking games saturday. couldnt call a winner between Loughrea/Cappy, Thomas's/Turlough. Would agree with your picks however, cappy didnt get going last day but expect a better performance. Turlough be ready for the champions and looking to cut the legs from under them. Looking forward to it
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Replying To Kinvara: "Killimor v Turloughmore B Killimor by 8
Rahoon-Newcastle v Craughwell Rahoon by 4
Kinvara v Sylane Kinvara by 7
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Abbeyknockmoy Eyrecourt by 2
Easy money!" Will Whelan be back? If not I cant see Kinvara winning. Bullied by Annaghdown who should have won by more. Without Whelan they dont have that go to forward. Will Kinvara wilt when in the battle? Sylane to win for me.
Agree with the rest of your predictions but Eyrecourt to win by more than 2.
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Sarsfields v Killimordaly......sarsfields by 5
St Thomas's v turloughmore.....st Thomas's by 2
Clarinbridge v castlegar..... Clarinbridge by 6
Tommy larkins v craughwell...tommies by 1
Gort v Kilconiron.....gort by 3
Cappataggle v Loughrea.... cappy by 1
Tynagh abbey/duniry v beagh... beagh by 1
Kilnadeema-letrim v moycullen..... letrim by 4
Athreny v oranmore maree.... oranmore by 3
Portumna v mullagh.... Portumna by 3
Liam mellows v padraig pearses..... mellows by 5
Ardrahan v Ahrascragh-fohenagh..... Ardrahan by 6
Killimor v Turloughmore.......Killimor by 5
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Abbeyknockmoy.....Eyrecourt by 4
Kinvara v sylane(with whelan missing and i heard another 1 or 2 i think sylane could cause an upset) sylane by 1
Rahoon-Newcastle v craughwell.......rahoon by 7
Cappy v loughrea ,st Thomas's v turloughmore, sarsfields v killimordaly and tommies v craughwell are the games been streamed this weekend. Also these games are probably the stand out games for the weekend. To local derbys betwen cappy and loughrea and sarsfields and killimordaly. Should be entertaining games.
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Replying To GalwaysFinest: "Will Whelan be back? If not I cant see Kinvara winning. Bullied by Annaghdown who should have won by more. Without Whelan they dont have that go to forward. Will Kinvara wilt when in the battle? Sylane to win for me.
Agree with the rest of your predictions but Eyrecourt to win by more than 2." Whelan away until Christmas. Id say the year was more about avoiding relegation battle than looking to get to a final. Eyrecourt by a handful
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