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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "Why should any club have 4 minor teams? They can only play on one senior team in the end. More clubs needed."
That's not the reason that this idea is being put out there.Its about hurling and not football as you said yourself.The lads are only getting to play on C and D teams and missing out on hurling.That statement says it all.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 199 - 13/09/2023 17:38:30    2504193

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "Why should any club have 4 minor teams? They can only play on one senior team in the end. More clubs needed."
Also although there maybe one Senior grade team there are plenty of other adult teams in all clubs.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 199 - 13/09/2023 18:38:28    2504203

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Senior Preliminary Quarter Finals
Turloughmore v Moycullen.........................Turlough
Clarinbridge v Ardrahan...............................'Bridge
sarsfields v Killimordaly................................sars
Gort v Cappataggle........................................Gort

Senior Relegation Play Offs
Craughwell v Kilconeiron..............................Craughwell
Tommy Larkins v Portumna.........................Larkins

Senior B Quarter Finals
Ahasragh-Fohenagh v Beagh.......................Ahasragh-F
Liam Mellows v Padraig Pearses..................Mellows

Senior B Relegation Final
Athenry v Killimor...........................................Athenry

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2158 - 13/09/2023 22:29:33    2504221

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Replying To baire:  "Apologies for going off topic but Pope's comment on Lackagh has diverted me into an area of interest, placenames and language!

I looked at the place names website:
www.logainm.ie
I counted 23 Lackaghs in Ireland, north and south. There are other forms of the name e.g Lacka More, Lacka Beg in County Limerick. Sometimes they give an explanation for the name but not for the Lackagh in Galway and there are more than one of them in the county. I saw someone suggesting the Galway Lackagh came from a 'cairn' ( a heap of stones) in the area.
There's a Lackagh River in County Donegal, with stony or flaggy river suggested as a meaning - referring to the bottom of the river it seems.

There are many forms in Irish of the word leac with different meanings. There's leac, leaca and leacach but only one form given in English, lackagh. The English form is practically useless.

Examples from Ó Dónaill, the Irish language dictionary:
https://www.teanglann.ie/ga/fgb/leac
leac, f. (gs. leice, npl. ~a1, gpl. ~). 1. Flat stone or rock; flagstone, slab. (a)~ chloiche, flat stone; stone slab. ~ phábhála, paving flag. ~ urláir, floor slab; floor tile. Urlár, cosán, ~, paved floor, path. Ar ~a na sráide, on the paved street, on the pavement. ~ tine, teallaigh, tinteáin, hearthstone. Ar ~ na tine, on the hearthstone, in front of the fire. ~ an dorais, the threshold(-stone). ~ na fuinneoige, the window-sill. (b)~bhuailte, cháite, chruaite, flat rock used as floor for threshing, winnowing, drying, grain. ~ an bháid, flat shore-rock used as landing-stage for boat. Chomh lom leis an ~, as bare as a rock. (c) (Of sedimentary rock) ~a dearga, glasa, (red, grey) bedrock layers. Síos go dtí an ~ liath, down to the living rock. ~ mhara, flat-topped rock in seabed. (d)~ ifrinn, na bpian, (pit of) hell. B'fhearr liom ar ~a (dearga) ifrinn é, I'd see him damned first.


leaca2, f. (gs. & gpl. ~n, npl. leicne). 1. Side of face, cheek. Bhí a ~ mar an rós, hercheek was like the rose. 2. Side, slope (of hill). Ar ~ an chnoic, on the hillside. 3. Side ofleaf. Iompaigh an ~ eile (den duilleog), turn the other side of the leaf. (Var:m, gs. ~)

If it's Leac or Leacach it would most likely refer to stones, flagstones etc

Leaca, could mean side or slope of hill."
Thanks Barra for a very interesting contribution. There were three fields and at least two glens and a pool in the river in our now planted hill farm that had Irish names. at least one gave the name of a family that had long left the locality and otherwise they seemed to be titles describing features of the land. This was all despite the fact that Irish has ceased to have common usage locally, since about the 1860's. I am particularly taken by one word above. When we milked cows by hand long ago in my home parish old people would say 'Ceartigh' to a cow to get her to move. However about ten miles away in my Fathers home farm they would use the word 'Iompaigh' to achieve the same end.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4252 - 13/09/2023 22:33:48    2504222

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Turloughmore v moycullen...... turlough
Clarinbridge v ardrahan............ the bridge
Cappataggle v gort..................... cappy
Sarasfields v killimordaly........... sarsfields

Kilconieron v craughwell............ craughwell
Tommy larkins v portunma....... tommies

Ahascragh-fohenagh v beagh..... Af
Liam mellows v padraig pearses.... mellows

Athreny v killimor...................... athreny

Carnmore v kiltromer............ carnmore
Kinvara v ballygar.................... kinvara
Abbeyknockmoy v ballinderreen.... ballinderreen
Clarinbridge v annaghdown....... annaghdown

Turloughmore v kilbancanty..... kilbancanty
An spidéal v craughwell............. craughwell

Off_the_post (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 14/09/2023 14:31:13    2504265

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Replying To Off_the_post:  "Turloughmore v moycullen...... turlough
Clarinbridge v ardrahan............ the bridge
Cappataggle v gort..................... cappy
Sarasfields v killimordaly........... sarsfields

Kilconieron v craughwell............ craughwell
Tommy larkins v portunma....... tommies

Ahascragh-fohenagh v beagh..... Af
Liam mellows v padraig pearses.... mellows

Athreny v killimor...................... athreny

Carnmore v kiltromer............ carnmore
Kinvara v ballygar.................... kinvara
Abbeyknockmoy v ballinderreen.... ballinderreen
Clarinbridge v annaghdown....... annaghdown

Turloughmore v kilbancanty..... kilbancanty
An spidéal v craughwell............. craughwell"
The Intermediate is a forgone conclusion........as I'm expecting a humdinger of a Final between Meelick-Eyrecourt v Tynagh/Abbey-Duniry!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2158 - 14/09/2023 16:05:42    2504276

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Replying To galway19:  "Fergal Healy confirmed as new u20 manager. Joe in the set up as well."
You would wonder sometimes what goes on in the CB. Healy 2 years with the minors, no silverware but on the football side Glynn wins an All Ireland Minor and he doesn't get the 20's. The mind boggles sometimes!

hashtag2017 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 14/09/2023 16:14:18    2504278

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Replying To hashtag2017:  "You would wonder sometimes what goes on in the CB. Healy 2 years with the minors, no silverware but on the football side Glynn wins an All Ireland Minor and he doesn't get the 20's. The mind boggles sometimes!"
Indeed it does.

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 300 - 14/09/2023 17:59:34    2504292

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Replying To hashtag2017:  "You would wonder sometimes what goes on in the CB. Healy 2 years with the minors, no silverware but on the football side Glynn wins an All Ireland Minor and he doesn't get the 20's. The mind boggles sometimes!"
You do know there were 4 candidates for the hurling job? Colm Callinan, who has a senior All Ireland medal but afaik has little management experience. Cathal Murray, who has managed Galway camogie to a couple of All Ireland wins but also lost a couple for which he has been criticised by some. Gavin Keary who I think may have some management experience at club level but to my knowledge not at county level.

Now I think all 3 of the unsuccessful applicants were worthy candidates but which of those 3 would have been your preferred choice and could you explain please why you think they would have been a better choice than Healy?

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1893 - 14/09/2023 22:06:15    2504298

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Replying To hashtag2017:  "You would wonder sometimes what goes on in the CB. Healy 2 years with the minors, no silverware but on the football side Glynn wins an All Ireland Minor and he doesn't get the 20's. The mind boggles sometimes!"
100% Healy is a not good choice.

John Doe (Galway) - Posts: 228 - 15/09/2023 07:16:51    2504302

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Short sighted appointment. Members only club on the sideline extending onto team selection. More tippy tappy hurling with no end product. The more things change in Galway, the more they stay the same.

Mayo52 (Mayo) - Posts: 44 - 15/09/2023 07:22:54    2504303

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Replying To katser:  "The Intermediate is a forgone conclusion........as I'm expecting a humdinger of a Final between Meelick-Eyrecourt v Tynagh/Abbey-Duniry!"
I would say they're the favourites but it's far from a foregone conclusion. I think Tynagh win it out but Kinvara or Balindereen can clip either of them on their day

Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 109 - 15/09/2023 07:52:57    2504306

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Replying To hashtag2017:  "You would wonder sometimes what goes on in the CB. Healy 2 years with the minors, no silverware but on the football side Glynn wins an All Ireland Minor and he doesn't get the 20's. The mind boggles sometimes!"
healy has a lot more on his CV than the last 2 years. more like the last 30 years coaching and growing all the time in terms of experience etc. And while they didnt win, they had a top class set up going in the minors. Best set up Galway minors ever had.

How many times to lads have to have it said it to them, minor team must be treated like an academy and nothing else, titles are a waste of time if you cant develop top level players.

Healy the right man for the job.

clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 424 - 15/09/2023 09:11:15    2504310

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Thanks Barra for a very interesting contribution. There were three fields and at least two glens and a pool in the river in our now planted hill farm that had Irish names. at least one gave the name of a family that had long left the locality and otherwise they seemed to be titles describing features of the land. This was all despite the fact that Irish has ceased to have common usage locally, since about the 1860's. I am particularly taken by one word above. When we milked cows by hand long ago in my home parish old people would say 'Ceartigh' to a cow to get her to move. However about ten miles away in my Fathers home farm they would use the word 'Iompaigh' to achieve the same end."
'Ceartaigh' would be similiar to what I heard used while milking .i.e 'deasaigh' meaning correct or adjust. Deasaigh do chos, correct your leg and it was usually the cow's right leg that got in the way.
'Iompaigh' would mean turn or change, asking the cow to make it easier to milk her.

There's an interesting article here OTM on Irish in west Limerick. It lasted well into the 20 century in some parts.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/365298/more-than-a-cupla-focail-in-county-limerick-town-as-irish-language-is-celebrated.html
Speaking afterwards to the Limerick Leader, Séamus explained that census figures for 1851 showed that over 50% of people in West Limerick, particularly in the uplands and border areas of West Limerick, still spoke Irish. By the early 1900s, he reckoned, this had dropped to 20%.

East of the Corrib in Galway, the hurling part, Irish lasted longest in Mionloch (Menlo) and An Carn Mór (Carnmor). Menlo is less than 2 miles from the city and amazingly there was a community of Irish speakers there up into the 1970s if not later.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1728 - 15/09/2023 10:55:18    2504326

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Manchan Magan wrote a best selling book " 39 Irish words for a field" I think you may have outdone him there with your collection of words for "stone". Could be a bestseller in it for you too!"
I only gave a tiny sample of one type of stone there PS! There are loads of place names in Galway that refer to stones.
The word Gaillimh means "stony" as in "stony river". There's An Clochán, An Carn Mór, Creig etc etc.
Not forgetting that great Saw Doctors emigration song,
"I wish I was on that N17
Stone walls and the grass is green".

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1728 - 15/09/2023 11:06:40    2504328

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Replying To Kinvara:  "I would say they're the favourites but it's far from a foregone conclusion. I think Tynagh win it out but Kinvara or Balindereen can clip either of them on their day"
Kinvara got hammered 15pts by TAD in the Group.
We will have to see how the Quarter Final Draw workes out.
I'd fancy Kinvara against either Sylane or Rahoon-Newcastle in the Quarter Final but I still think Eyrecourt or TAD would have too much for Kinvara in the Quarter Final
Ballindeeren have a tough game against Abbeyknockmoy this Weekend but should get through.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2158 - 15/09/2023 12:22:26    2504336

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Replying To Kinvara:  "I would say they're the favourites but it's far from a foregone conclusion. I think Tynagh win it out but Kinvara or Balindereen can clip either of them on their day"
I've gone for Athenry to beat Killimor in the Senior Relegation Final but I'd love to see the "former Galway Club Hurling Kingpins" Athenry sent flying down to Intermediate.....that would really shake up the Intermediate Championship for 2024!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2158 - 15/09/2023 12:28:35    2504340

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Replying To katser:  "I've gone for Athenry to beat Killimor in the Senior Relegation Final but I'd love to see the "former Galway Club Hurling Kingpins" Athenry sent flying down to Intermediate.....that would really shake up the Intermediate Championship for 2024!"
Will that game even take place I've heard not sure if it true Killimor are appealing the new score difference under the old system they be safe so match at weekend mighr not take place

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 794 - 15/09/2023 13:15:06    2504352

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Replying To Kinvara:  "I would say they're the favourites but it's far from a foregone conclusion. I think Tynagh win it out but Kinvara or Balindereen can clip either of them on their day"
Not that forgone at all. Eyrecourt just about beat Abbeyknockmoy (minus Paul Flaherty) in the final group game. Can't see why TAD should be regarded as favourites - teams are relegated for a reason.

Triffic (Galway) - Posts: 121 - 15/09/2023 13:29:25    2504356

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Replying To katser:  "Kinvara got hammered 15pts by TAD in the Group.
We will have to see how the Quarter Final Draw workes out.
I'd fancy Kinvara against either Sylane or Rahoon-Newcastle in the Quarter Final but I still think Eyrecourt or TAD would have too much for Kinvara in the Quarter Final
Ballindeeren have a tough game against Abbeyknockmoy this Weekend but should get through."
They did but I was at the game and thought they were unlucky that day. 2 points or so down at halftime, conceded 2 quick goals second half, one was an incredible finish and the other they made a mistake playing out the back

The torrential rain that day suited TAD down to the ground, Kinvara play a quick stick passing game and then get it out in front of the forwards, the conditions that day made it impossible. They also made a mistake playing Whelan midfield and he had a very very poor game I think it would be a lot closer if they met again on a dry day!

But as I said I fancy TAD to win it probably comfortably enough in the end. I was at their game against Bdereen and though they were well down, the comeback was impressive all the same

I would like to see Eyrecourt go up. I live near the area these days and they are very honest people who put a huge amount into their hurling. Fleming will be in Galway senior squads if he stays fit

Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 109 - 15/09/2023 13:37:23    2504358

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