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With the likelyhood of 16 Senior 16 Inter 16 Jun A coming down the tracks it could be time to look at a reserve system like in other counties? So that it could only be a 1st team in Senior/Inter/ Jun A ?
16 Annaghdown ( all the other 3rd place teams this year are 2nd teams )
6. Skehana /Mountbellew
7. Bearna Furbo
8 Micheal Breathnach
1st Teams such as Bsloe/ Menlo who currently play in Junior 1 could be offered a place in the new Junior A
This would stop some of the re-grading problems currently happening, it would aslo minimise the delay in Jun A / Jun 1 - it would also gurantee 1st teams a chance at promotion rather then the increase of super clubs.
It would leave the Junior A with only 8 teams but you could have 7 games , top 4 into semi final. There would be no relegation from Junior A ( which is a safety net for some of the weakest/fragile hurling clubs in the county .
The 2nd teams would be streamed based on current levels, and would have its own Senior 1 Inter 1 etc championship.
Just an idea as this 16 Club maximum will be pushed on Galway from Croke Park .
puckemhard (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 23/11/2021 12:08:44 2390431Link 0
plentyofstick (Galway) - Posts: 75 - 23/11/2021 14:19:22 2390454Link 0
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 399 - 23/11/2021 17:18:06 2390489Link 0
minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 134 - 23/11/2021 18:36:05 2390503Link 0
In theory you could split it 12/12/16 as it is now but only the top tier could compete for the Senior county title and only one can go up from B, one down from A from 2023 on. Effectively making current Senior B Intermediate and so on down the line.
I don't like it as I feel it's none of congress's business what we do but it is what it is.
Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 23/11/2021 19:06:25 2390506Link 0
twohands (Galway) - Posts: 149 - 23/11/2021 19:24:37 2390508Link 2
16 Senior A, 16 Senior B, 16 Intermediate, 16 Junior A, 16 Junior B, 16 Junior C.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 1674 - 24/11/2021 11:40:21 2390566Link 1
I knew id forget one team ! Loughrea would obviously be in Senior , one of the Senior B teams drop to Inter, Annaghdown to Junior A etc.
puckemhard (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 24/11/2021 11:43:25 2390567Link 1
It's not the Clubs fault that the Hurling Board decided to raise it to 24 teams and now have to reduce it to 16 teams.
Anyway is it not the Club delegates who decide when it goes to motion.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 1674 - 24/11/2021 13:23:33 2390591Link 0
Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 216 - 24/11/2021 13:39:47 2390593Link 0
To have a competitive championship, and to avoid the current pigeon shoots this is what to do:
Senior A: 6 teams- 5 games; top 2 into county semi-finals. 3rd n 4th into quarter finals. Bottom team plays relegation play off with 2nd in Senior B.
Senior B: 6 teams-5 games: Top two into county quarter-finals. 2nd placed in relegation play off with bottom team in senior A. Bottom team relegated to PI.
Premier Intermediate: 8 teams-7 games; top 4 into semi-finals. Winner goes up Senior B. Bottom team relegated.
Intermediate: 8 teams-same format as Premier Intermediate.
Junior (Group 1): 6 teams, format same as Senior A.
Junior (Group 2): 6 teams, same as format for Senior B.
Junior teams selected by a draw into the two groups. Senior and intermediate teams selected on current standings.
I say Junior Group 1 & 2, because I suspect, but don't know, that Junior B already exists in Galway.
12 teams is plenty to have playing Senior. The Senior B's still have a shot at the big prize.
Smaller groups, playing competitively, with a chance of winning something, is the way forward. Even at that, big gaps will still exist between teams. There's no perfect answer.
16 teams at one level is far too cumbersome, with too great a gap between the top teams and those further back.
And whoever said that I didn't have the best interests of Galway hurling at heart???
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1265 - 24/11/2021 13:51:58 2390599Link 0
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 399 - 24/11/2021 14:12:27 2390606Link 1
katser (Galway) - Posts: 1674 - 24/11/2021 16:07:22 2390644Link 0
Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 24/11/2021 18:02:24 2390679Link 0
Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 24/11/2021 18:07:08 2390682Link 0
This year's one sided games at the knock out stage are something of an aberration as last year we had an extremely competitive championship right through with most games decided by a point or 2. There surely must be serious soul searching going on in Turlough and to a lesser extent in Castlegar and perhaps even in Sarsfields (though as a small club they have a good excuse) as to why they exited the championship early this year. With the quality of player ON PAPER that Turlough have they should be at least reaching the county semi final every year. Just dont seem to deliver somehow.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1687 - 24/11/2021 18:45:36 2390686Link 1
Did you watch the intermediate final? It was like a junior game. It's no wonder in recent years we've seen the likes of Kinvara & Ballindereen losing to teams from Mayo in Connacht. That intermediate championship you've named is a junior championship. Out of interest who would even be left in junior if all named above were in intermediate?
Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 216 - 25/11/2021 08:54:37 2390707Link 0
As a point of info , its grand saying if there is a Senior B that they should be allowed into the Senior A , but Croke Park have stated that cant happen , so its pointless discussing such things. Yes i can see clubs have spent years trying to achieve Senior status and i understand that but sadly the votes from Cork and Tipp swayed Congress.
puckemhard (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 25/11/2021 09:08:23 2390710Link 2
Maybe there's no soul there to find after all the searching
Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 25/11/2021 10:01:32 2390720Link 0
AFAIK as a result of the congress decision there can only be one up and one down from your top level after 2023 and you can't win your county title from outside the top tier. Below the top tier you're free to organise as you wish as long as you have a max of 16 teams in your top flight with only the Intermediate/Senior B winners going up each year.
16 Senior and Intermediate would obviously appear to be the way to go (as you say) ultimately but reaching that point won't be an easy circle to square.
Might be an idea to keep the top 12 from next year (no relegation to senior B), promote the three Senior B group winners and the Intermediate champions and work from there. That would give 16 teams to start off in 2023. The rest of it further down can be organised internally however we fancy it.
Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 25/11/2021 10:43:23 2390730Link 1