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Waterford lost to Limerick by 3 points last year, the same as Galway
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 22/05/2023 18:14:13 2480657 Link 1 |
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Oh ok so a much longer and harder route IF we were to lose to Dublin. So this Dublin match is far more important than I thought.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 22/05/2023 19:07:05 2480677 Link 0 |
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Put it this way - can you imagine the scornful ire / smug satisfaction Sheedy would have shown if Galway lost to Westmeath by 2 points after being 17 points up early in the second half? Wexford have been historically considered to be in the top 6 or 7 counties and were unlucky not to have beaten Tipp in the AI semifinal in 2019 when a man up and a few points up and also against Clare last year when they lost a comfortable enough lead close to the end - they have also beaten / drawn with KK for the last number of years in Leinster. All Sheedy said on TSG is that "Wexford don't normally concede those type of goals" i.e. those conceded against Westmeath so they were described as "unlucky" instead of "overrated", "inconsistent" or "chokers" if it had been Galway!
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 22/05/2023 19:34:01 2480687 Link 2 |
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It's a well known fact that Tipp hate playing Galway. I know alot of Tipperary folk and they always say the one team they prefer avoiding is Galway. Tipp relish playing the Corks, Kilkennys and even Clare, but when they get Galway there is always a nerviness and doubt in their heads. katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 22/05/2023 20:41:18 2480700 Link 1 |
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For starters you shouldn't even be thinking that will happen. Confidence man!! But to answer your question....Kilkenny would play Dublin in Leinster Final. Head to Head would be Kilkenny 3pts, Dublin 2pts, Galway 1pt. katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 22/05/2023 20:49:22 2480703 Link 1 |
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To be honest, I far prefer it when pundits dont rate us. Id say there was more honesty in what Sheedy said than in Tyrrell's comments buttering us up!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 23/05/2023 00:46:13 2480728 Link 2 |
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The older guys on the Galway team have All Ireland medals, they produced on the biggest stage of all. The average age isn't particularly relevant. The older guys on the Tipperary team have All Ireland medals, they produced on the biggest stage of all. Again, the average age isn't particularly relevant. Noel McGrath has a huge impact on games for example. He doesn't go missing. The older guys on the Cork team have a couple of Munster medals and filled the togs when they got to Croke Park. They have won one match in Croke Park, which required extra time, and they backed it up by getting rotavated by Limerick in the final in 2021. It is The Way Of The Cork. We are forever being told that Cork are a 'coming force' with 'speedsters' who play a 'running game' Cork lined up on sunday with Dalton, Horgan, Lehane and Harnedy as four of their six attackers. As a collective they have their qualities of course but they wouldn't run out of your way. The real point is that even at their peak the older Cork players were never good enough collectively to scratch the paint of the bigger teams with any consistency. If Cork have 'fearsome underage teams' where are the players from these teams, outside of Ciarán Joyce? Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 830 - 23/05/2023 07:27:35 2480732 Link 1 |
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As I said I'm not his biggest fan but you're backing up his point by saying they have pushed Limerick as close as anyone as his point was around consistency. For the record I'm not saying I'm agreeing with him as being not convinced based on other years. A few people get really irked by someones opinion based on the county they are from! We know from here that Tipp people arent allowed have an opinion on any other Liam Mc county! :-D tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 08:41:00 2480736 Link 1 |
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Waterford ran Limerick to a few points in our own backyard last year and with 14 men for 35 minutes beat Galway in 21987 They also comprehensively beat KK, Galways Leinster conquerors in 20 and 21. There is always one huge big day in Galway which they will beat anyone. Tis what happens the next day is often the problem.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 23/05/2023 08:59:29 2480741 Link 1 |
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Ah, will ye give over about 18, even us LK People are starting to forget.about it now. There was no need for.a replay against Clare. They were nine points down and made a simple switch, bringing Galvin back and he dictated the direction of the game.and.the.Maroom Management did nothing to counteract it. By contrast a young Limerick were rocked to their guts by.a rampant Cork team and were six points down with nine minutes to go. However they bravely fought their way back as they did in so many games that year and claimed the prize. If you cannot beat a young team that shot ,20 wides in the All Ireland Final you have no case to claim you were hard done by.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 23/05/2023 09:15:33 2480748 Link 1 |
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Whats the point going back to 2018 to make your point? The fact is Galway havent appeared in a final since 2018 and they should have. They have lost Leinsters to KK that they should have won too since. Either way there has been 4 cship seasons since 2018 so I dont get what you're trying to say. Its a lifetime in hurling. Tipp have won an All Ireland since then and also become the arguably one of the worst teams in the Liam Mc in a couple of seasons so going back to 2018 is madness to make a point!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 09:20:32 2480751 Link 1 |
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Ah, will ye give over about 18, even us LK People are starting to forget.about it now. There was no need for.a replay against Clare. They were nine points down and made a simple switch, bringing Galvin back and he dictated the direction of the game.and.the.Maroom Management did nothing to counteract it. By contrast a young Limerick were rocked to their guts by.a rampant Cork team and were six points down with nine minutes to go. However they bravely fought their way back as they did in so many games that year and claimed the prize. If you cannot beat a young team that shot ,20 wides in the All Ireland Final you have no case to claim you were hard done by.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 23/05/2023 09:31:49 2480752 Link 1 |
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Aren't you proving your own point (or as you say Sheedy's point) about "inconsistency" in that Tipp were awful in the last few years up to this year since the 2019 Final when one could argue they were "lucky" not to meet Limerick instead of KK? They were particularly bad last year under Colm Bonnar - then suddenly this year with largely the same group of players bar a few they are currently shooting the lights out and will be favourites to reach the Munster final. However noone in the media such as Sheedy, Daly, Cummins or Cusack are saying that Tipp are "inconsistent" or "unreliable" or even "you don't know what Tipp you will get from match to match" like they love saying about Galway. Its all a load of nonsense and tired old clichés that they feel they have to roll out where Galway are concerned. I think everyone realizes that now and I was particularly "sorry" for them after 2017 when they had to put those "clichés" aside for a few years as it was very hard for them to come up with new "adjectives"! lol
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 23/05/2023 10:24:26 2480781 Link 1 |
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Well it was YOUR point we were responding too....... Galway haven't been consistent since 2017 (your words)........ so you decided to back to the year before 2018 to make your point!!! Our point was we went through 2018 losing no game till an All Ireland Final and in 2018 lost less games than any other team. So we would consider that consistent. So your statement was wrong. I think as per Dail procedures you should retract that statement and say since the start of the 2019 Championship Galway have been less consistent than they were in 2017/2018. We will all agree and get on with our lives of Fawning over the might of the Munster Championship. SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 589 - 23/05/2023 10:29:19 2480787 Link 1 |
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That is my exact point - good man for posting this up. Of course you can explain that to some posters here and they will still skew it to the way they would like the same as Sheedy not being "convinced"! lol
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 23/05/2023 10:31:42 2480790 Link 1 |
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I think Henry might change that given time.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 10:40:24 2480798 Link 1 |
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Your opinions are always well thought out. Except that last line; )
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 10:41:26 2480799 Link 1 |
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Think its points difference between the 3, not points.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 10:42:27 2480801 Link 2 |
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Yes thanks OTM - the infamous "there is always one huge day in Galway..." cliché that you've heard the Munster pundits I mentioned roll out every year apart from 2017 and a few years after poor "craythurs". Of course nothing like that was said when Limerick won no AI for 45 years and probably had the most infamous "choke" in GAA history in 1994 v Offaly in the "5 minute final" going from 5 points up towards the end of the game to losing by 6 within 5 minutes. Where were all the Munster pundits then with their bad-minded clichés? You mention Waterford - aren't Waterford the "poster boys" these days for "inconsistency"? Munster people are full of bad-mind I have found for anyone outside of their own little county but they save most of their bad-mind for Galway in particular - you can see it on the faces of the likes of Daly, Cusack and Sheedy especially if Galway win anything. As my father used to say "they are ate with bad-mind" and "bad-mind will give you wrinkles". Long may it continue! lol
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 23/05/2023 10:54:15 2480808 Link 1 |
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I've no complaints about the 2018 Final. Ye beat us to every ball and were more physical and fully deserved to win. The only thing that made it close was Canning. After Canning retired from the game he left a huge void on the team and yes they were very up and down. Then when Shefflin took over there was a "feeling in" period that I think is near its end. Shefflin isn't afraid to bring in "NO NAME" players that make a big impact and a nice blend with the older players. I think the future looks bright for Galway Hurling.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 23/05/2023 11:32:46 2480821 Link 0 |