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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "It's the same difference though. You either have the rule in place for both or for neither.

Why does one have to be 'more on the agenda' than the other, that doesn't make any sense. Surely the 'development of a 15 year old' would be aided by being allowed to play minor and U16 in the same year, not hindered?"
I am speaking of the 15/16yr old who isn't on the co minor team. Let the u16s at it and those good enough at that age of with minor squad. No need to then drop that u16 on minor squad down into development squad.

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 488 - 11/04/2023 13:42:36    2470249

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Wow, were they really? I was at the game and I didnt notice that .....if I was asked to recall the colour of their jerseys after the game I'd have said mainly white with maroon.i must be colour-blind!"
I wasn't at the game, so I'll trust your eyesight and admit I was wrong. I only had the report (picture) on the Kilkenny People website to go by. If look at the link below, you'll seehow I got it wrong. I should have paid more attention to the detail in the picture. Although, you'd have thought they'd have used a photo from the actual game.

[url=]https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/1081207/kilkenny-minors-suffer-as-galway-grab-big-win.html

https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/1081207/kilkenny-minors-suffer-as-galway-grab-big-win.html

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 11/04/2023 13:54:57    2470255

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Are there any Galway supporters on here who honestly think Galway will win the Liam McCarthy this year? Looking forward to the replies.

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 76 - 11/04/2023 15:09:38    2470289

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Are there any Galway supporters on here who honestly think Galway will win the Liam McCarthy this year? Looking forward to the replies."
No unfortunately reasons are the same for me as last year, a number of our more senior established players are either over the hill or reaching it very soon due to age, number of years playing etc. It would have been more better long term if Henry went from day one with a very new look team and mould it from three. Undoubtedly they are some great players there who need a fee years etc to develop.tp their peak. I just feel the current mix of new with the remaining 17 players isn't going to cut.

Overall I think most teams bar limerick are in the same boat. I felt 2017 was a similar season too bar Tipp and ourselves the rest of the teams were still finding their feet that year too etc.

grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 11/04/2023 16:00:23    2470316

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Replying To grellans89:  "No unfortunately reasons are the same for me as last year, a number of our more senior established players are either over the hill or reaching it very soon due to age, number of years playing etc. It would have been more better long term if Henry went from day one with a very new look team and mould it from three. Undoubtedly they are some great players there who need a fee years etc to develop.tp their peak. I just feel the current mix of new with the remaining 17 players isn't going to cut.

Overall I think most teams bar limerick are in the same boat. I felt 2017 was a similar season too bar Tipp and ourselves the rest of the teams were still finding their feet that year too etc."
You win an all-ireland in 2017 with a bunch of players largely in their mid 20s. You'd fancy our chances more in 2022 and 2023, if we fielded none of those players? You'd prefer to build a team with u20 graduates, that haven't won an all-ireland since 2011. Certainly a radical approach.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3464 - 11/04/2023 16:12:34    2470326

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Are there any Galway supporters on here who honestly think Galway will win the Liam McCarthy this year? Looking forward to the replies."
The answer is no, as it looks at this stage Limerick are way too good. Though if any team is equipped to beat them it could be Galway as they have a physical aspect to their game that gets under Limericks skin while not enough going by recent results.
Galways main problem is the lack of scorers/accuracy, if this was resolved then a shock could be on the cards in the latter stages of c'ship

Galway4ever (Galway) - Posts: 211 - 11/04/2023 16:37:54    2470334

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You win an all-ireland in 2017 with a bunch of players largely in their mid 20s. You'd fancy our chances more in 2022 and 2023, if we fielded none of those players? You'd prefer to build a team with u20 graduates, that haven't won an all-ireland since 2011. Certainly a radical approach."
Radical might be no harm. It was a long wait from 88 to 17.

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 76 - 11/04/2023 16:46:09    2470335

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You are a bit of an enigma like us. On any given day no one could stand with you. You do have the ability to unearth talent and they come out of the blocks like a train but then drop off a bit. Of course Joe and some others are the exception to that. This year the opposition better take ye very seriously.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2670 - 11/04/2023 16:49:42    2470337

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You win an all-ireland in 2017 with a bunch of players largely in their mid 20s. You'd fancy our chances more in 2022 and 2023, if we fielded none of those players? You'd prefer to build a team with u20 graduates, that haven't won an all-ireland since 2011. Certainly a radical approach."
That radical approach didn't do much for us during the League it has to be said!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12071 - 11/04/2023 16:52:19    2470339

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Replying To Canuck:  "You are a bit of an enigma like us. On any given day no one could stand with you. You do have the ability to unearth talent and they come out of the blocks like a train but then drop off a bit. Of course Joe and some others are the exception to that. This year the opposition better take ye very seriously."
Noone ever underestimated Galway and won't start now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12071 - 11/04/2023 16:57:05    2470341

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Are there any Galway supporters on here who honestly think Galway will win the Liam McCarthy this year? Looking forward to the replies."
Unfortunately Galway are a million miles off winning an All Ireland. The team is gone beyond stale, despite Henry's best efforts to freshen it up. Galway are miles behind Limerick, Kilkenny, and Cork, and also well behind Clare, Waterford, Tipperary, and Wexford (on a going day with their best 15 on the field)

Galway are marginally ahead of Dublin, and further ahead of Offaly, Laois, Westmeath Antrim and Kerry. In my humble opinion, its only when Galway start becoming seriously competitive at U20/21 again will they re emerge as a force.

Albara (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 14/04/2023 11:20:55    2470950

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Are there any Galway supporters on here who honestly think Galway will win the Liam McCarthy this year? Looking forward to the replies."
Sorry, just dropped in for a peek ahead of the Wexford match.
A better question would be are there any GAA supporters who think anybody other than Limerick will win the All-Ireland, or be within 5-10 points of them?
That is what I see as the gap to every other team.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1140 - 14/04/2023 11:32:14    2470958

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Replying To Albara:  "Unfortunately Galway are a million miles off winning an All Ireland. The team is gone beyond stale, despite Henry's best efforts to freshen it up. Galway are miles behind Limerick, Kilkenny, and Cork, and also well behind Clare, Waterford, Tipperary, and Wexford (on a going day with their best 15 on the field)

Galway are marginally ahead of Dublin, and further ahead of Offaly, Laois, Westmeath Antrim and Kerry. In my humble opinion, its only when Galway start becoming seriously competitive at U20/21 again will they re emerge as a force."
I think that's a fair bit of an overstatement. A million miles off winning an All-Ireland, yet we were close to beating Limerick in last year's semi-final. Do I think we'll win it this year? No I don't, but that's mainly because Limerick are so far ahead of everyone else and I think they're better this year than last.
You say we're miles off Kilkenny and Cork, but we beat both in last year's championship. Well behind Clare who we beat comfortably a few weeks ago.
Limerick are a good bit ahead of the pack, but I don't see much of a difference between the rest on any given day.
That's not to say we don't have issues developing players for senior hurling. That's been obvious for a long time. But even with that, I see us as capable of mixing it with the rest of the teams bar Limerick.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2050 - 14/04/2023 11:33:15    2470959

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Sorry, just dropped in for a peek ahead of the Wexford match.
A better question would be are there any GAA supporters who think anybody other than Limerick will win the All-Ireland, or be within 5-10 points of them?
That is what I see as the gap to every other team."
Exactly. Now someone could catch Limerick on a particular day, but I don't see it happening. They have their full panel available for the first time in years and so many options. The likelihood is they'll have some recent all-stars on the bench for every game this year.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2050 - 14/04/2023 11:36:25    2470961

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I think that's a fair bit of an overstatement. A million miles off winning an All-Ireland, yet we were close to beating Limerick in last year's semi-final. Do I think we'll win it this year? No I don't, but that's mainly because Limerick are so far ahead of everyone else and I think they're better this year than last.
You say we're miles off Kilkenny and Cork, but we beat both in last year's championship. Well behind Clare who we beat comfortably a few weeks ago.
Limerick are a good bit ahead of the pack, but I don't see much of a difference between the rest on any given day.
That's not to say we don't have issues developing players for senior hurling. That's been obvious for a long time. But even with that, I see us as capable of mixing it with the rest of the teams bar Limerick."
Did we really beat the Cats last season? Yes we beat Clare in the league recently, but by the same extension Cork beat Galway very easily

Albara (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 14/04/2023 13:00:48    2470978

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Replying To Albara:  "Unfortunately Galway are a million miles off winning an All Ireland. The team is gone beyond stale, despite Henry's best efforts to freshen it up. Galway are miles behind Limerick, Kilkenny, and Cork, and also well behind Clare, Waterford, Tipperary, and Wexford (on a going day with their best 15 on the field)

Galway are marginally ahead of Dublin, and further ahead of Offaly, Laois, Westmeath Antrim and Kerry. In my humble opinion, its only when Galway start becoming seriously competitive at U20/21 again will they re emerge as a force."
Glad you aren't from here. We have enough negative types like yourself already!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12071 - 14/04/2023 16:55:20    2471006

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Exactly. Now someone could catch Limerick on a particular day, but I don't see it happening. They have their full panel available for the first time in years and so many options. The likelihood is they'll have some recent all-stars on the bench for every game this year."
Yes they have everything going for them...if ever there was a time to catch them ;)

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 488 - 14/04/2023 17:29:06    2471010

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Replying To Albara:  "Unfortunately Galway are a million miles off winning an All Ireland. The team is gone beyond stale, despite Henry's best efforts to freshen it up. Galway are miles behind Limerick, Kilkenny, and Cork, and also well behind Clare, Waterford, Tipperary, and Wexford (on a going day with their best 15 on the field)

Galway are marginally ahead of Dublin, and further ahead of Offaly, Laois, Westmeath Antrim and Kerry. In my humble opinion, its only when Galway start becoming seriously competitive at U20/21 again will they re emerge as a force."
As much as I hated your post I have to say I agree with you. If I was in a generous mood I'd put Galway at fifth best. I hope I get proven wrong and they exceed expectations but I don't see it as likely. Galway Abu.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2136 - 14/04/2023 17:37:04    2471011

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Replying To Albara:  "Unfortunately Galway are a million miles off winning an All Ireland. The team is gone beyond stale, despite Henry's best efforts to freshen it up. Galway are miles behind Limerick, Kilkenny, and Cork, and also well behind Clare, Waterford, Tipperary, and Wexford (on a going day with their best 15 on the field)

Galway are marginally ahead of Dublin, and further ahead of Offaly, Laois, Westmeath Antrim and Kerry. In my humble opinion, its only when Galway start becoming seriously competitive at U20/21 again will they re emerge as a force."
What nonsense. Yer dissapointed about not winning u20 all Ireland's, yeve won 2 of the 4 u20/21 Leinster championships yeve entered. Lost to Kilkenny by a point after extra time without 3 of their main players who were with the senior panel, Kilkenny won the u20 all Ireland and had no one missing. Not to mind the minor all Ireland's yeve harvested the last 6 years. Galway beat Cork last year, gave Limerick their hardest and toughest game, the only game they genuinely looked like they could loose, Clare and Kilkenny ran them close but never actually threatened to win that game....and I'd say if you were to ask most limeirck supporters or players who'd they'd be most concerned about its Galway. If Galway are this far off the pace I'm seriously worried about where Wexford are at. Can tell you for a fact we are not ahead of Galway, we havent beaten them since 96 in championship, as much as id love to say they are, theres no fact to back that up at all, or Waterford, Clare, Cork. Id have them neck and neck with Kilkenny with probably more room to improve. We'd love to have what ye have.....also Clare and Corks record against ye the last 10 years be it league or championship is pretty terrible and galway and Cork have been the big two at underage the last 5 years. Madness.
I do think no one is beating Limerck this year. They'll get a few tough games but are too far ahead ATM, think there's another 2 all Ireland's left in this group before they start to taper off a bit. One of the best ever

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 271 - 14/04/2023 18:56:46    2471021

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Replying To Albara:  "Unfortunately Galway are a million miles off winning an All Ireland. The team is gone beyond stale, despite Henry's best efforts to freshen it up. Galway are miles behind Limerick, Kilkenny, and Cork, and also well behind Clare, Waterford, Tipperary, and Wexford (on a going day with their best 15 on the field)

Galway are marginally ahead of Dublin, and further ahead of Offaly, Laois, Westmeath Antrim and Kerry. In my humble opinion, its only when Galway start becoming seriously competitive at U20/21 again will they re emerge as a force."
I'd say the glass is always half empty to you. If we were as weak as you say we are, the bookies wouldnt have made us slight favourites ahead of Kilkenny to win Leinster. I would see us as being on a par with Kilkenny. It will be us or them winning Leinster and at this stage, before a ball is struck, I think it's 50/50. I do think we need to win Leinster so I am hoping we reach an All Ireland semi final at least, with a chance of reaching the final , but yes, I dont think we can win it this year. It's Limerick's to lose .

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1907 - 14/04/2023 19:50:28    2471023

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