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Replying To Viking66:  "Depends what they charge him with."
Or if he's charged at all?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2152 - 28/02/2023 13:47:41    2460952

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "The two incidents are completely different but in any event two wrongs don't make a right.

As for coverage if RTE really wanted to highlight indiscipline they could have replayed multiple incidents involving Gillane, Hegarty and now Hayes, all of which were missed by the referee and none of which were defensible, some were just downright filthy.
Those decisions in Championship have consequences - would Clare have beaten Limerick in Munster if Gillane was sent off for example? Probably not.
Its enough to rightly frustrate other teams and its not the first time its happened."
Off peddling this again Larry. Good lad. The league has been forever used by lads to throw a few over the top challenges and flicks in as they know there's little consequence. It happens every county and plenty of cards shown. Kyle threw a flick and it wasn't seen. End of. He'll get a 1 match ban and deservedly so. Tom monaghan on lynch was a carbon copy but rte neglected to ahow it as it doesnt get the same traction on media sites and that's fine. You mentioned a few limerick lads but you neglect to mention anyone else. Those lads get constant off the ball treatment that's a lot worse than hayes did Sunday. A lot worse and they get it all day long. The difference is they accept it as its what they're used to in training. That's what makes them so powerful in the physical and mental sense and that's why they've won 4 of the last 5 AIs. That's what it takes as that's what its always taken. Waterford have 4 red cards already cork had 2 or 3 last year. Shane Kingston on finn I recall as particularly nasty. Wexford Galway Tipp have all has red cards in the league in the last couple of years. The difference with limerick is the spotlight. But that's fine and to be expected. For years I moaned how physical and over the top kilkenny were. In hindsight it was frustration as it was grasping at straws because they were so far ahead of the pack. I see the very same here.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 28/02/2023 13:57:44    2460955

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Replying To updwell:  "Haven't you enough to be worrying about in Wexford instead of talking about a minor incident in a Limerick match."
No point worrying about Wexford hurling gave up that 32 years ago. Change happens very slow down here. Things are getting better. But very slowly. And there's always the odd amazing performance along with the odd desperate ones.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15096 - 28/02/2023 14:10:01    2460960

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Replying To BostonGuy:  "Yes"
Lad they should employ you cover all the matches!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15096 - 28/02/2023 14:10:25    2460961

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Or if he's charged at all?"
Yep. If he's not then happy days.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15096 - 28/02/2023 14:11:48    2460962

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "No, it could never ever be rugby, as no player on a rugby field has a 3-foot piece of ash in his hand. Please try to refrain from making such ludicrously illogical comments from here on out."
Are you not familiar with the subjunctive? The potential consequences of striking a player in the head, whether it's with a hurley, a boot or an arm, could be catastrophic. Must it be spelt out for you? Is everything literal with you yanks? Deficiency of imagination is not acceptable in this instance.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 28/02/2023 14:50:18    2460982

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "The two incidents are completely different but in any event two wrongs don't make a right.

As for coverage if RTE really wanted to highlight indiscipline they could have replayed multiple incidents involving Gillane, Hegarty and now Hayes, all of which were missed by the referee and none of which were defensible, some were just downright filthy.
Those decisions in Championship have consequences - would Clare have beaten Limerick in Munster if Gillane was sent off for example? Probably not.
Its enough to rightly frustrate other teams and its not the first time its happened."
Instead of sending off Wexford players in future, I think after last Sunday that they should be sending them on. Let Wexford have, say, 18 players on the field vs KK's or LK's 15.

Would that fix things for you Larry, and allow you to take your mind off the likes of Gillane, Hegarty and Hayes (all big powerful men, mind you)?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2152 - 28/02/2023 15:11:25    2460989

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Instead of sending off Wexford players in future, I think after last Sunday that they should be sending them on. Let Wexford have, say, 18 players on the field vs KK's or LK's 15.

Would that fix things for you Larry, and allow you to take your mind off the likes of Gillane, Hegarty and Hayes (all big powerful men, mind you)?"
Funny you should say that. I said to the lads behind me halfway through the 1st half that we needed to pull a Crokes stroke.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15096 - 28/02/2023 15:38:07    2460998

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Instead of sending off Wexford players in future, I think after last Sunday that they should be sending them on. Let Wexford have, say, 18 players on the field vs KK's or LK's 15.

Would that fix things for you Larry, and allow you to take your mind off the likes of Gillane, Hegarty and Hayes (all big powerful men, mind you)?"
And BTW 15 does us against Kilkenny more times than not in the last good few years! Not sure about Limerick. We've only played them in the League lately.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15096 - 28/02/2023 15:39:49    2460999

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Replying To daveboy:  "Off peddling this again Larry. Good lad. The league has been forever used by lads to throw a few over the top challenges and flicks in as they know there's little consequence. It happens every county and plenty of cards shown. Kyle threw a flick and it wasn't seen. End of. He'll get a 1 match ban and deservedly so. Tom monaghan on lynch was a carbon copy but rte neglected to ahow it as it doesnt get the same traction on media sites and that's fine. You mentioned a few limerick lads but you neglect to mention anyone else. Those lads get constant off the ball treatment that's a lot worse than hayes did Sunday. A lot worse and they get it all day long. The difference is they accept it as its what they're used to in training. That's what makes them so powerful in the physical and mental sense and that's why they've won 4 of the last 5 AIs. That's what it takes as that's what its always taken. Waterford have 4 red cards already cork had 2 or 3 last year. Shane Kingston on finn I recall as particularly nasty. Wexford Galway Tipp have all has red cards in the league in the last couple of years. The difference with limerick is the spotlight. But that's fine and to be expected. For years I moaned how physical and over the top kilkenny were. In hindsight it was frustration as it was grasping at straws because they were so far ahead of the pack. I see the very same here."
Limerick are a brilliant team as were Kilkenny close enough to being in that bracket with them now but there is no comparison between Kilkenny discipline and limericks. I can't recall anyone from Kilkenny getting sent off for a dirty stroke against Wexford or anyone else in their dominant years, correct me if I'm wrong.
There is at least 5 dirty strokes I could name from Limerick, it taints them in my opinion and the fact they have been largely missed is why there is so much uproar. Anyway better stay quiet by the looks of it!

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 28/02/2023 16:51:18    2461019

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "The two incidents are completely different but in any event two wrongs don't make a right.

As for coverage if RTE really wanted to highlight indiscipline they could have replayed multiple incidents involving Gillane, Hegarty and now Hayes, all of which were missed by the referee and none of which were defensible, some were just downright filthy.
Those decisions in Championship have consequences - would Clare have beaten Limerick in Munster if Gillane was sent off for example? Probably not.
Its enough to rightly frustrate other teams and its not the first time its happened."
On a second.but course the saintly Wexford players never delivered a debatable strike. I was at the game and I clearly saw the Mannion/Lynch incident and again on TG,4 and there was no difference to Hayesvhit and even at Least one Galway contributor said if one was put the other should have gone as well. I do not think either of them should have got a straight red, but of them should have gone.
Larry I have a few incidents involving players from other counties I recent years, like when Kingston concussed Dean Finn and you have nothing to say about them. Forgive me, if a detect a blast of the greens on your part.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4479 - 28/02/2023 17:15:30    2461025

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Limerick are a brilliant team as were Kilkenny close enough to being in that bracket with them now but there is no comparison between Kilkenny discipline and limericks. I can't recall anyone from Kilkenny getting sent off for a dirty stroke against Wexford or anyone else in their dominant years, correct me if I'm wrong.
There is at least 5 dirty strokes I could name from Limerick, it taints them in my opinion and the fact they have been largely missed is why there is so much uproar. Anyway better stay quiet by the looks of it!"
Larry we did this last year. There were no cards back then. There was no trial by media. There was no constant scrutiny. Kilkenny were a lot more "physical" on and off the ball than this Limerick team. For you to say it taints them is a sad reflection of where you are as an ex hurler. If you can't appreciate what will be the greatest team to play the sport you and I played is a pity. The game has never been better. Never neem faster, never been more skillful. The players from all countys have elevated the game beyond anything we saw in the 90s. The game is 100 times cleaner than it was when I played. What hayes and monaghan did last Sunday were tips. Nothing more. Move on. I hate this character assassination on here by keyboard warriors but for it to come from an ex player is just a bit sad really.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 28/02/2023 18:21:38    2461033

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "The two incidents are completely different but in any event two wrongs don't make a right.

As for coverage if RTE really wanted to highlight indiscipline they could have replayed multiple incidents involving Gillane, Hegarty and now Hayes, all of which were missed by the referee and none of which were defensible, some were just downright filthy.
Those decisions in Championship have consequences - would Clare have beaten Limerick in Munster if Gillane was sent off for example? Probably not.
Its enough to rightly frustrate other teams and its not the first time its happened."
Hold on Larry . Were you at the Munster Final. Guillane did absolutely nothing untoward despite being hauled and
Dragged by his Clare opponents all day long. One of the same two was hanging out of Shane O' Brien all night, two weeks back, but of course the likes of you would never see, much less acknowledge, that. There were three possible sending offs in last year's Munster Final and two of them would have been Claremen. None of the three was Guillane. So if those that should have been put off, were in fact put off Clare would possibly have gone in ordinary time and not Limerick.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4479 - 28/02/2023 18:45:34    2461038

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Replying To baire:  "Why won't you go into Hayes hit? If it were rugby he'd be banned for 6 months!"
Don't get too sanctimonious about how that game applies it's rules. Do you realize that it took them over a hundred years at International level to put more than a handful of players off despite all the ***** that took place in some of them games. I saw Mike Gibson been taken out of a game v Wales and the ball well gone and absolutely nothing was done about it. As I say Sean Foley was put the field at all levels for six months in '81 long before the rugby crowd started to take similar serious indiscretions seriously

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4479 - 28/02/2023 18:57:21    2461043

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Replying To baire:  "Are you not familiar with the subjunctive? The potential consequences of striking a player in the head, whether it's with a hurley, a boot or an arm, could be catastrophic. Must it be spelt out for you? Is everything literal with you yanks? Deficiency of imagination is not acceptable in this instance."
Name one player that had a bony injury or was concussed like Sean Finn was by the actions of any Limerick player over the past five seasons. BTW Cian Lynch had just as good a chance of getting a head injury as Brian Concannnon had last Sunday. Quite frankly both incidents were innocent enough.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4479 - 28/02/2023 19:04:21    2461046

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Limerick are a brilliant team as were Kilkenny close enough to being in that bracket with them now but there is no comparison between Kilkenny discipline and limericks. I can't recall anyone from Kilkenny getting sent off for a dirty stroke against Wexford or anyone else in their dominant years, correct me if I'm wrong.
There is at least 5 dirty strokes I could name from Limerick, it taints them in my opinion and the fact they have been largely missed is why there is so much uproar. Anyway better stay quiet by the looks of it!"
Your memory mustn't be the best Larry, the great Kilkenny team had plenty of incidents over the year's Eoin Larkin sent off in league final v Dublin for striking, JJ Delaney in league match v Tipp, Shefflin sent off v Cork, Eddie Brennan in the first 15 minutes of '07 final and to cap it all off look up Jackie Tyrell's greatest hits on YouTube. All these things happened and more and it doesn't take 1% from their greatness, all the great teams get everything thrown at them legally and illegally and they respond in kind. Wexford in '96 had a few unsavoury incidents in final v Limerick and do people in Wexford look on them players as anything else but heroes and idols? Of course not, they're legends to ye and rightfully so.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 883 - 28/02/2023 19:07:29    2461047

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Limerick are a brilliant team as were Kilkenny close enough to being in that bracket with them now but there is no comparison between Kilkenny discipline and limericks. I can't recall anyone from Kilkenny getting sent off for a dirty stroke against Wexford or anyone else in their dominant years, correct me if I'm wrong.
There is at least 5 dirty strokes I could name from Limerick, it taints them in my opinion and the fact they have been largely missed is why there is so much uproar. Anyway better stay quiet by the looks of it!"
Well I will correct you John Hoyne was certainly sent off v Wexford. Do you recall the first ten minutes of 07 All Ireland. Final and the conduct alone of Eddie Brennan. Kilkenny did more dirt in the first half of that game that Limerick ever did.
You have just shown that, like a few other Wexford men on Social Media, you are totally up KKs **** and can't stand the sight of another second tier team having a good run

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4479 - 28/02/2023 19:13:46    2461049

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Limerick are a brilliant team as were Kilkenny close enough to being in that bracket with them now but there is no comparison between Kilkenny discipline and limericks. I can't recall anyone from Kilkenny getting sent off for a dirty stroke against Wexford or anyone else in their dominant years, correct me if I'm wrong.
There is at least 5 dirty strokes I could name from Limerick, it taints them in my opinion and the fact they have been largely missed is why there is so much uproar. Anyway better stay quiet by the looks of it!"
This is getting tiresome...

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 28/02/2023 19:45:47    2461056

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It's not too hard to beat Limerick.
After all a bunch old and young Sarsfields men beat Bruff in the All Ireland B final.
yet ANOTHER All Ireland medal for the little parish. There's barely a house in Bullaun or New Inn without a bit of that precious metal now!

waterside4 (Galway) - Posts: 35 - 28/02/2023 19:51:42    2461058

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Limerick are a brilliant team as were Kilkenny close enough to being in that bracket with them now but there is no comparison between Kilkenny discipline and limericks. I can't recall anyone from Kilkenny getting sent off for a dirty stroke against Wexford or anyone else in their dominant years, correct me if I'm wrong.
There is at least 5 dirty strokes I could name from Limerick, it taints them in my opinion and the fact they have been largely missed is why there is so much uproar. Anyway better stay quiet by the looks of it!"
I presume you don't attend Limerick matches. If RTE did not show those incidents you refer to, how do you know they happened or can have any realiable opinion on them.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4479 - 01/03/2023 08:37:00    2461069

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