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Replying To Past hurler: "Loughrea wouldn't near the calibre or the pace of the forwards that Dunloy have so you can't compare the county final to big open space in Croke Park." I wouldn't be sure of that now.
Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2216 - 20/12/2022 15:33:41
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Always been a huge fan of Thomas's and always backed them when lads from other counties would say they weren't a top team but after today their record in the all Ireland series leaves for pretty bleak reading. Yes they have an all Ireland but that was won at the start and with a very different team. For all the galway championships won its a poor return on the all Ireland series for all the talents they've had. 3 games won out of 9 games and many losses to teams they'd have been expected to beat e.g Ballyea, Borris, Dunloy.
All that being said. The fact that Ballygunner, Na Piarsaigh and Thomas's all only have 1 all Ireland a piece will probably be sticks used to beat all 3 especially when all 3 have been dominating their counties bar a few blips or injury crisis the last 10 years. Insane ability from Ballyhale to stand head and shoulders above everything year after year. Going (and realistically winning) a 4th all Ireland since 2015 is a huge achievement.
Just goes to show how good Portumna and Athenry were to win similar amount of county titles but to convert them into all Ireland wins or final appearances nearly every time they got out.
Thomas's are a very very good team in a relatively poor standard of galway club hurling (conpared to what it was). I know they had injuries but too many times they've let strife and bad luck get the better of them and have never really overcame a challenge when put to them outside of galway. 5 in a row in galway is still an amazing achievement and will always be remembered but unfortunately their failures to deliver outside of galway will haunt them.
Also heard some lads say Loughrea or some other team would've done better, not buying that at all. Thomas's still by far the best team in galway and just have to look at the hammerings Sarsfields and Mellows took when they got out instead of Thomas's in this time period.
Also wish to add good to see hurling improving in connacht in other counties. Would've got some odds to say two connacht teams will be in hurling all Ireland's and none would be galway clubs. Tooreen with a full team I would fancy to beat Monaleen and think Ballygiblin will beat Easkey. Would be great to see Connacht senior Final back next year if Tooreen win intermediate all Ireland." I think it is unfair to say the standard of Galway club hurling is relatively poor. There are a handful of panels in Galway with excellent squads on paper (Sarsfields, Turlough, Clarinbridge, Loughrea), but for whatever reason arent getting over the line to win county championships. Thomas' are worthy champions every year and grind out the win, but perhaps their lack of strength in depth goes against them outside of Galway. Or maybe it is the lack of knowledge of their opposition, or whatever, I dont know.
Thomas' extremely unlucky last year against Ballyhale, we all know that. This year were crucified with injuries.
In general they are unlucky to be around at the same time of these great Ballyhale, Ballygunner and even Na Piarsiagh teams.
It'd be great to see Tooreen win it, they play a lovely brand of hurling.
Seen Easkey play about two years ago. I am surpised the British champions didnt beat them. There are a couple of Galway connections in Easkey so its great to see them reach this far. Dont think they will get near Ballygiblin but hopefully I am wrong.
If Tooreen won the intermediate all ireland, do they go up to 'senior' for next year? I know thats what happened to Naas this year, but not sure if that was an agreement prior to winning the intermediate all ireland.
GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 20/12/2022 15:48:47
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Always been a huge fan of Thomas's and always backed them when lads from other counties would say they weren't a top team but after today their record in the all Ireland series leaves for pretty bleak reading. Yes they have an all Ireland but that was won at the start and with a very different team. For all the galway championships won its a poor return on the all Ireland series for all the talents they've had. 3 games won out of 9 games and many losses to teams they'd have been expected to beat e.g Ballyea, Borris, Dunloy.
All that being said. The fact that Ballygunner, Na Piarsaigh and Thomas's all only have 1 all Ireland a piece will probably be sticks used to beat all 3 especially when all 3 have been dominating their counties bar a few blips or injury crisis the last 10 years. Insane ability from Ballyhale to stand head and shoulders above everything year after year. Going (and realistically winning) a 4th all Ireland since 2015 is a huge achievement.
Just goes to show how good Portumna and Athenry were to win similar amount of county titles but to convert them into all Ireland wins or final appearances nearly every time they got out.
Thomas's are a very very good team in a relatively poor standard of galway club hurling (conpared to what it was). I know they had injuries but too many times they've let strife and bad luck get the better of them and have never really overcame a challenge when put to them outside of galway. 5 in a row in galway is still an amazing achievement and will always be remembered but unfortunately their failures to deliver outside of galway will haunt them.
Also heard some lads say Loughrea or some other team would've done better, not buying that at all. Thomas's still by far the best team in galway and just have to look at the hammerings Sarsfields and Mellows took when they got out instead of Thomas's in this time period.
Also wish to add good to see hurling improving in connacht in other counties. Would've got some odds to say two connacht teams will be in hurling all Ireland's and none would be galway clubs. Tooreen with a full team I would fancy to beat Monaleen and think Ballygiblin will beat Easkey. Would be great to see Connacht senior Final back next year if Tooreen win intermediate all Ireland." TJ Reid is going for his 6th All Ireland club medal, that is ridiculous and his club Ballyhale are going for their ninth.
They are a club that will always be near the top with the young talent coming through, they seem to have a knack of producing phenomenal inter county and club hurlers down their whatever is in the water.
Tooreen put it up to Naas for spells last year in the semifinals, they will go close to winning the all Ireland I think.
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Replying To GalwaysFinest: "I think it is unfair to say the standard of Galway club hurling is relatively poor. There are a handful of panels in Galway with excellent squads on paper (Sarsfields, Turlough, Clarinbridge, Loughrea), but for whatever reason arent getting over the line to win county championships. Thomas' are worthy champions every year and grind out the win, but perhaps their lack of strength in depth goes against them outside of Galway. Or maybe it is the lack of knowledge of their opposition, or whatever, I dont know.
Thomas' extremely unlucky last year against Ballyhale, we all know that. This year were crucified with injuries.
In general they are unlucky to be around at the same time of these great Ballyhale, Ballygunner and even Na Piarsiagh teams.
It'd be great to see Tooreen win it, they play a lovely brand of hurling.
Seen Easkey play about two years ago. I am surpised the British champions didnt beat them. There are a couple of Galway connections in Easkey so its great to see them reach this far. Dont think they will get near Ballygiblin but hopefully I am wrong.
If Tooreen won the intermediate all ireland, do they go up to 'senior' for next year? I know thats what happened to Naas this year, but not sure if that was an agreement prior to winning the intermediate all ireland." in leinster they promoted kildare championship ,if easky and toreen win both finals they should go up ,and its a complete joke if they dont ,and thus mayo hurling goes senior and junior hurling in mayo goes intermediate ....sorry for rant on galway page ,but for these countys to progress they need to start climbing the ladder
Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 270 - 20/12/2022 20:44:02
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Replying To GalwaysFinest: "I think it is unfair to say the standard of Galway club hurling is relatively poor. There are a handful of panels in Galway with excellent squads on paper (Sarsfields, Turlough, Clarinbridge, Loughrea), but for whatever reason arent getting over the line to win county championships. Thomas' are worthy champions every year and grind out the win, but perhaps their lack of strength in depth goes against them outside of Galway. Or maybe it is the lack of knowledge of their opposition, or whatever, I dont know.
Thomas' extremely unlucky last year against Ballyhale, we all know that. This year were crucified with injuries.
In general they are unlucky to be around at the same time of these great Ballyhale, Ballygunner and even Na Piarsiagh teams.
It'd be great to see Tooreen win it, they play a lovely brand of hurling.
Seen Easkey play about two years ago. I am surpised the British champions didnt beat them. There are a couple of Galway connections in Easkey so its great to see them reach this far. Dont think they will get near Ballygiblin but hopefully I am wrong.
If Tooreen won the intermediate all ireland, do they go up to 'senior' for next year? I know thats what happened to Naas this year, but not sure if that was an agreement prior to winning the intermediate all ireland." Thomas lack pace. This doesn't count against them in poor pitches in Galway in Oct-Nov.
When they got to Croke Park they were exposed.
Also they cannot play any ground hurling at all. No attempt to move the ball on the ground apart from the swing by No8 when he missed and made contact with the opposing player and got a yellow(harshly) for his efforts.
nevertheless they have been the best in Galway for 5 years and deserve huge credit for their achievements.
SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 21/12/2022 09:11:31
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Replying To Timmy86: "in leinster they promoted kildare championship ,if easky and toreen win both finals they should go up ,and its a complete joke if they dont ,and thus mayo hurling goes senior and junior hurling in mayo goes intermediate ....sorry for rant on galway page ,but for these countys to progress they need to start climbing the ladder" While the promotion of hurling in these weaker counties is obviously huge, with the greatest respect to Easkey, I dont think promoting them to intermediate in connacht would be a help just yet.
If they became perennial winners of the connacht junior, then fair enough, but I think the Sligo champions are well placed playing in the junior championship at the moment.
Tooreen are perennial winners of the intermediate and the gulf to challenge a Galway senior county champion is too big.
Dont get me wrong, Tooreen are a fantastic team and I've stated that above, but the journey of getting to Croker is far better for development than being hammered by a team that are above their level. The same principal applies for Easkey/Sligo. Thats just my opinion.
GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 21/12/2022 10:09:03
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Replying To GalwaysFinest: "While the promotion of hurling in these weaker counties is obviously huge, with the greatest respect to Easkey, I dont think promoting them to intermediate in connacht would be a help just yet.
If they became perennial winners of the connacht junior, then fair enough, but I think the Sligo champions are well placed playing in the junior championship at the moment.
Tooreen are perennial winners of the intermediate and the gulf to challenge a Galway senior county champion is too big.
Dont get me wrong, Tooreen are a fantastic team and I've stated that above, but the journey of getting to Croker is far better for development than being hammered by a team that are above their level. The same principal applies for Easkey/Sligo. Thats just my opinion." Wouldn't be as big jump as we think. Tooreen are good and the clubs who've won intermediate the last few years don't seem to be doing too bad with Naas giving ballyhale a very good game (tooreen would be similar level to Nass and Ballyhale a good few levels above galway and any other champions) Tullaroan seem to be in the top 2 or 3 in Kilkenny, Fr O'Neills up to top level in Cork. These are all teams that Tooreen have been close to and on same level to. Beating galway intermediate champions year after year is no good to them anymore. Mt Leinster rangers and Carlow champions another example of clubs doing well since going up senior after winning intermediate. I think sometimes we in galway (guilty of it myself) over rating our club championship the last few years, while it was with Kilkenny the clear best club championship for nearly 30 years, it has definitely slipped up the last 7 or 8 years and there has been some bleak and chastising days for our club champions in that time period. I don't think Tooreen would be that overages playing our senior Champs anymore. This was a fair argument when the Mayo and Roscommon champions were God awful in the 00s and Athenry, Portumna etc were giving out hammerings to Kilkenny, Cork Champs not to mind Mayo Champs.
Think they'd be well entitled to enter senior connacht champions if Naas can enter a bigger bear pit in Leinster
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I think the Thomas' loss puts to bed any comparisons with the Portumna and Athenry teams. Those teams hadn't half as many poor displays outside of Galway as St Thomas' have now. Its a pity because they have dominated Galway but dont play anywhere close to decent in the all-ireland series.
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Galway playing in the Connacht hurling league. I see New York have a nice Galway representation.
Does anyone have a list of the Galway panel?
GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 03/01/2023 09:45:46
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Replying To GalwaysFinest: "Galway playing in the Connacht hurling league. I see New York have a nice Galway representation.
Does anyone have a list of the Galway panel?" Its a Galway Junior only Team so I would doubt too many of these will be household names.
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Replying To bogmaster19: "Its a Galway Junior only Team so I would doubt too many of these will be household names." Might see the likes of Sean McDonagh maybe? Obviously this is more a development squad and a lot of the better younger players will line out on Sunday against Westmeath.
galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 03/01/2023 14:12:38
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Replying To galway19: "Might see the likes of Sean McDonagh maybe? Obviously this is more a development squad and a lot of the better younger players will line out on Sunday against Westmeath." Yeah you would wonder is Sean in with the senior team at the moment? He prob needs to be thrown in against Westmeath to see where he is at. Unreal underage talent but its very hard to know when he is playing at junior club level, which is absolutely no disrespect to his club/grade.
No doubt they're doing everything right and will be up intermediate soon.
Great initiative to bring on the junior clubs in Galway but I cant imagine its too easy gather a panel from junior clubs at this time of the year.
GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 03/01/2023 14:53:48
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Also huge congrats to Sarsfileds camogie team. Unbelievable achievement. Must be first club to do back to back in both camogie and hurling. They overcame a lot of injuries too and didnt let past losses scar them, a great mark of champions. Not going anywhere too, could win another 2 of 3 all Ireland's." CAMOGS
We remember Sarsfields hurlers
Great champions of renown,
Now many of their daughters
Are burnishing the crown;
All Ireland medals are a treasure
As they are so hard to win,
Now scattered like confetti
Round Bullaun and New Inn.
Many years of dedication
Interspersed with tears and pain,
Are finally rewarded
Another Back to Back to gain;
Great teachers and great coaches
Allied with a pedigree
A Final goal achieved
At Camogies epogee.
We bask in reflected glory
From our wonderful colleens,
Who battled to the finish
To show what was in their genes;
More than a great team effort
Drawn from a willing squad,
Brought me tears of joy and happiness
Born on that Irish humble sod.
Patrick Healy
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Replying To waterside4: "CAMOGS
We remember Sarsfields hurlers
Great champions of renown,
Now many of their daughters
Are burnishing the crown;
All Ireland medals are a treasure
As they are so hard to win,
Now scattered like confetti
Round Bullaun and New Inn.
Many years of dedication
Interspersed with tears and pain,
Are finally rewarded
Another Back to Back to gain;
Great teachers and great coaches
Allied with a pedigree
A Final goal achieved
At Camogies epogee.
We bask in reflected glory
From our wonderful colleens,
Who battled to the finish
To show what was in their genes;
More than a great team effort
Drawn from a willing squad,
Brought me tears of joy and happiness
Born on that Irish humble sod.
Patrick Healy" what in gods name is this ramble supposed to be?
Going back to hurling talk... bad end to the year for Galway with thomasas losing. Injurys got the better of them in the end. a mid October county final and a few weeks off would have done them no harm at all. Still though... what a team they are.
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Replying To clare_sparrow: "what in gods name is this ramble supposed to be?
Going back to hurling talk... bad end to the year for Galway with thomasas losing. Injurys got the better of them in the end. a mid October county final and a few weeks off would have done them no harm at all. Still though... what a team they are." All Ireland club titles in a row, and now the same parish winning two All Ireland Camogie titles in a row,
Not bein churlish, but has any team from Crare where you pretend to be done that?
A happy New Year to you and all on here.
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It is obviously a thing with which you are not familiar - to wit - a small East Galway parish of about 200 households have approximately 100 All Ireland hurling and camogie medals between them. Minor, under 21, Club Senior, County Senior, Camogie Club and County.
It would be interesting if some statistician could actually tell us if this is something unique and if Bullaun and New Inn are some kind of record holders of All Ireland Medals as a proportion of population.
Best wishes to all on here for 2023
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Replying To clare_sparrow: "what in gods name is this ramble supposed to be?
Going back to hurling talk... bad end to the year for Galway with thomasas losing. Injurys got the better of them in the end. a mid October county final and a few weeks off would have done them no harm at all. Still though... what a team they are." Dunloy done St Thomas a big favour.
It would of been a massacre against Ballyhale in the final.
Can't see Dunloy getting close to Ballyhale either.
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Galway v westmeath this weekend in duggan park.
We will get a chance to see few lads who henry brought into the set up and probably a few experienced lads.
Anyone have an idea who henry has brought in or a panel list.
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Replying To waterside4: "All Ireland club titles in a row, and now the same parish winning two All Ireland Camogie titles in a row,
Not bein churlish, but has any team from Crare where you pretend to be done that?
A happy New Year to you and all on here." Not sure where "Crare" is but I certainly dont pretend to be from there. I am a Galway man as per the brackets beside my username. Well done on all your clubs medals, thankfully the players who won them dont go around gloating like you do here. And thankfully not everyone here is as Self-satisfied and as smug as you either.
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Replying To waterside4: "It is obviously a thing with which you are not familiar - to wit - a small East Galway parish of about 200 households have approximately 100 All Ireland hurling and camogie medals between them. Minor, under 21, Club Senior, County Senior, Camogie Club and County.
It would be interesting if some statistician could actually tell us if this is something unique and if Bullaun and New Inn are some kind of record holders of All Ireland Medals as a proportion of population.
Best wishes to all on here for 2023" Sarsfields are a mighty club no doubt. They were extremely close to winning the U20 championship this year too, so there's more talent coming through.
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