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That's great news, although 8 seems like a particularly high number just hoping its its not a Willie Cleary bias behind it.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 29/10/2021 10:32:33 2387796 Link 0 |
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We dont want to return to the way we were 10 or 12 years ago when we were less fit than every other serious team either. I dont think we had any fitness edge over any other top county the last couple of years tbh.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 29/10/2021 18:07:12 2387851 Link 0 |
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Well the same strength and conditioning coach has been retained. The only difference being the players (hopefully) won't have a lunatic shouting and roaring at them and cancelling Christmas just so we can be fitter than everyone else during the National League. There's a reason some players seem to have returned after previously not committing- I wouldn't fancy being flogged half the year and unlikely to get substantial game-time if I was wasn't among the favourites either. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 30/10/2021 09:46:27 2387869 Link 0 |
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I dont think Davy would be much different to Kiely, Sheedy or any of the other all Ireland winning managers in that regard. And they are all following the template that was originated by Cody. The fitness training of the great Kilkenny teams of this millenium was famously savage. And probably still is. Kilkennys recent relative success in getting to AISFs and finals has been built on being fitter and fiercer than everyone else. They haven't had the same standard of hurler as they had in years gone by. Up or down Davy is gone and Darren has come in. I doubt training will be any easier than it was and if it is we will do worse than we have done in recent seasons.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 30/10/2021 12:46:38 2387882 Link 0 |
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There is no doubt Davy had his favourites and to be honest he is well known to become very friendly with the leaders/main men in teams so when things go pear-shaped these lads won't go against him and if the lads getting no game-time want to get rid of him that's not going to happen if has all the stronger guys onside. Conor McDonald was a perfect example of this, he was poor in a lot of matches 2020 and was never replaced no matter what. I am looking forward to life under Darragh Egan. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 726 - 30/10/2021 18:51:40 2387905 Link 0 |
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I think Clare were the trend setters in fitness over the last 30 years and Kilkenny followed that on. The fierceness of Kilkenny is obviously inate with Cody in charge. All that flogging became a little stale about 10 to 15 years ago im hurling when the science came to the fore more. Limerick aren't doing half the running Davy puts his teams through and they certainly don't train over the few days of Christmas as far as I know. They usually are at the Stephens day rugby v leinster in Thomond Park. They've a more tailored programme and the likes of Hannon ain't doing what Finn is. He couldn't, but he's still fit just not powerfull. Things have moved on alot..theres still a preseason of cardio fitness but there's no flogging players under Kiely. Pointless stuff. Big lessons taken from rugby too with the power and speed stuff..
bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 31/10/2021 11:28:14 2387945 Link 1 |
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For sure the sports science end of S and C came on leaps and bounds when rugby went professional in the country. Up until then all the team sports were largely amateur or semi professional in setup. Our main problem seems to be at underage. Our lads dont seem to be getting the same S and C help as other counties. By the time they get to minor and u20 they seem noticeably smaller than nearly any other team they play. That can't be just down to diet or genetics.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 31/10/2021 12:15:29 2387947 Link 0 |
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https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/sport/gaa/boost-for-wexford-hurling-as-padraig-foley-returns-to-senior-inter-county-squad-41006998.html bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 02/11/2021 09:57:32 2388129 Link 0 |
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That's great news! And Darragh Egans looking at 60 lads from outside the senior panel is a positive too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 02/11/2021 13:28:00 2388155 Link 0 |
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Not too sure what he really has to look at. 11 lads from Gorey?
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 02/11/2021 15:55:07 2388184 Link 0 |
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Ferns is part of the Gorey district, no harm boarding the net see what's out there.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 02/11/2021 16:10:51 2388187 Link 0 |
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No as in 11 lads from Gorey! Although someone did say 9 to me, however a team who cant get past their quarter final could hardly have that many lads called up? wonder is it something to do with the new selector.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 02/11/2021 16:21:18 2388191 Link 0 |
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I'd imagine its 9 plus McDonald and Dunbar who were in the panel this year , does seem like alot alright.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 02/11/2021 16:43:19 2388197 Link 0 |
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Agreed but at least he is showing an interest!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 02/11/2021 18:08:36 2388210 Link 0 |
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That very good news, does anyone have a full link to the article lads? What players the manager is looking at etc...
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 934 - 02/11/2021 22:01:15 2388224 Link 0 |
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I've the link a few posts up, just mentions Paudie Foley coming back.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 03/11/2021 10:36:57 2388240 Link 0 |
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But when you take it isolation, it seems okay. There is Jack Cullen, widely regarded as one of if not the best WB in the county, and a player whose skill-set we've been crying out for. Consistently excellent. Eoin Molloy was a solid corner-back pre-injury in a problem area for Wexford. Best man-marker around. His two brothers have been called up as well, Cian is very much one for the future but there is no harm getting him on a S and C programme already, while Gary is a versatile lad who has been consistent at club level too. Aodhan Doyle again is one of the top performers in his position over the last few years, is athletic and worth looking at. Finally, Charlie McGuckin was injured for Gorey this year, but is a good team-player, plays the work-horse role well (don't have many candidates to potentially play a 'Bonner Maher' role) and previously played underage at county level. Besides, its only a preliminary training squad. It would be far worse had no-one was called up and the Status Quo remained. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 03/11/2021 11:39:25 2388252 Link 0 |
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Charlie Mcguckin was very good at u20. Jack Cullen and Eoin Molloy excellent too. The others definitely worth a look at but maybe not ready for the step up yet. Still nowhere near 11 though.....
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 03/11/2021 14:36:15 2388282 Link 0 |
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I don't know who said it was 11, was always the six I referred to earlier plus the current two panelists.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 03/11/2021 15:03:24 2388287 Link 0 |
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That's just the "teaser" piece they put up of the first few paragraphs of a story, and you have to subscribe then to get the rest of it. The whole article won't be online until maybe next week, if it ever goes up at all. Have to either subscribe or else buy the paper the old-fashioned way if you want to read the full story now. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2249 - 03/11/2021 15:58:13 2388298 Link 0 |