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2022 Wexford Intercounty Hurling

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Calm down........
An outside view here although actively involved in a Wexford club. I remember when Conor McDonald first arrived in the scene as a minor. The whole of Wexford talked about him as the next Tony Doran or Nick Rackard.
Without going all Eamonn Dunphy on it, I think he has been a very good player not a great player. I will caveat that by saying that not since Liam Dunne was in charge have Wexford had a game plan that suits him, and back then he was unmarkable. You have to isolate him 1-on-1 and that is increasingly difficult. But that said, the real top-top forwards (Horgan, Gillane, Canning, Reid, etc) were always able to find space. McDonald finds that harder to get in a game plan that doesn't suit a player with his aerial ability."
Agree that the quality of ball going into him is too much of the50/50 variety and he's getting manhandled by the full back much of the time. Better ball and he's well capable of scoring. He's brilliant shooting over his shoulder

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 24/05/2022 11:41:09    2419930

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Is this accurate? I just read Liam Sheehy's article in the Cork Examiner. Surely, last Saturday was not Wexford's first time beating Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in senior championship hurling?

" He and his team had left themselves an uphill battle but deserve enormous credit for delivering when the need was greatest. Especially in Nowlan Park where they'd never won before in championship."

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2359 - 24/05/2022 11:49:15    2419933

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Calm down........
An outside view here although actively involved in a Wexford club. I remember when Conor McDonald first arrived in the scene as a minor. The whole of Wexford talked about him as the next Tony Doran or Nick Rackard.
Without going all Eamonn Dunphy on it, I think he has been a very good player not a great player. I will caveat that by saying that not since Liam Dunne was in charge have Wexford had a game plan that suits him, and back then he was unmarkable. You have to isolate him 1-on-1 and that is increasingly difficult. But that said, the real top-top forwards (Horgan, Gillane, Canning, Reid, etc) were always able to find space. McDonald finds that harder to get in a game plan that doesn't suit a player with his aerial ability."
I think these are very good points being made about Conor Mc.
Another huge benefit of Conor Mc is the fact that all opponents fear him and know they have to give the full back some protection ... this in theory should free up space or provide a yard or two for the other forwards.
The onus is on the other 5 forwards to score more as Conor Mc always produces a few scores.
He's a great player to have because he provides a lingering threat in the full forward area. Like when DJ got the ball 20 plus years ago, there was a buzz once he had it in his hand.
And don't we just love our full forwards in Wexford over the years ... Rackard, Doran, Billy Byrne, Conor Mc.

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 24/05/2022 12:02:13    2419934

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Replying To theboys:  "Stone age hurling from Kilkenny was a massive help to us,Richie Reid just lumping ball after ball down on our spare men he never even looked,they may get rid of him as sweeper and get a lad that can play ball!!!that sucked the life out of Kilkenny and played into our hands big time!!! We are only covering over cracks at the min,any team that can play ball we are gone!!! totally over hyped again won't pull the wool over my eyes!!!"
Yawn. The usual pathetic post. Negative as always. I feel that if we win the all ireland he wouldn't be happy.
I actually agree with you about Kilkenny's gameplan but they have plenty of good hurlers
who had beaten Dublin by 17 points the week before.
We played a fast and varying game that the cats couldn't cope with.
For heavens sake give the lads some credit, they deserve it.
Of course you will carry on with your blinkered comments about Wexford hurling.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 24/05/2022 12:11:25    2419939

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Any word on Devitts finger injury lads? Will be good to have Shane Reck back for the next round too to provide further competition for places

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 24/05/2022 12:45:57    2419948

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Replying To theboys:  "Stone age hurling from Kilkenny was a massive help to us,Richie Reid just lumping ball after ball down on our spare men he never even looked,they may get rid of him as sweeper and get a lad that can play ball!!!that sucked the life out of Kilkenny and played into our hands big time!!! We are only covering over cracks at the min,any team that can play ball we are gone!!! totally over hyped again won't pull the wool over my eyes!!!"
Still your usual negative self lad. Was talking to a few good hurling men from other counties, even Kilkenny, and they were impressed enough with the tactics, intensity, skill levels, tackling technique, maybe down to Corcoran, support play etc. A few bad wides in the 1st half was the main criticism. They were mostly very impressed with our last 6 scores though or the last 15 odd minutes in general. They reckoned we out Kilkennyed Kilkenny with that finish to the game.
One made a point that I think it was you posted before. Or another poster on this. We need to be 8 points better to win by 4. Well he just said he thought we were 8 points better over the game.
As regards ball playing teams Cork would be the main 1 left. But I'm not sure how they would fare out against our style of defense. Certainly Darragh Fitzgibbon could've stopped for a pint on his way in scoring his goal against Tipp. I don't think we will give whoever we play that space. I'd be more worried about the big men teams, particularly Limerick and Galway. Clare have the flair to beat anyone on their day I'd say it would be down to who turns up if we play them. Hopefully the Westmeath game will focus the lads on Kerry or Antrim either of whom could beat us if we aren't at it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 24/05/2022 13:31:55    2419960

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Is this accurate? I just read Liam Sheehy's article in the Cork Examiner. Surely, last Saturday was not Wexford's first time beating Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in senior championship hurling?

" He and his team had left themselves an uphill battle but deserve enormous credit for delivering when the need was greatest. Especially in Nowlan Park where they'd never won before in championship.""
We have only played them there a handful of times in Championship. Mostly we played them in Croke Park

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 24/05/2022 13:34:22    2419962

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Is this accurate? I just read Liam Sheehy's article in the Cork Examiner. Surely, last Saturday was not Wexford's first time beating Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in senior championship hurling?

" He and his team had left themselves an uphill battle but deserve enormous credit for delivering when the need was greatest. Especially in Nowlan Park where they'd never won before in championship.""
We have only played them there a handful of times in Championship. Mostly we played them in Croke Park. I'd say they wouldn't have won too many championship games in Wexford Park either. Last championship game in Nowlan Park was 2018 and we lost by a point. Their last 2 visits down here in 2017 and 2019 we won and drew.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 24/05/2022 13:37:46    2419966

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Is this accurate? I just read Liam Sheehy's article in the Cork Examiner. Surely, last Saturday was not Wexford's first time beating Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in senior championship hurling?

" He and his team had left themselves an uphill battle but deserve enormous credit for delivering when the need was greatest. Especially in Nowlan Park where they'd never won before in championship.""
We have only played Kilkenny in the championship in Nowlan park in very recent times. Apart from the round robin we played them once in Liam Dunnes time (2015) when Wexfords tactics were unbelievably naive and they beat us 24 points. (5-25 to 16 points - 8 players who were involved on saturday night last started that match and Kevin Foley was a sub)

We played them once in Wexford park before/around that time so there must have been a home-and-away arrangement with them then. I don't know what happened before 1954 but as far as im aware since then we only played them twice in nowlan park in the championship before last saturday.

lochgarmanabu (Wexford) - Posts: 1022 - 24/05/2022 14:02:36    2419971

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2017 won in Wexford Park
2018 lost by a point in Nolan Park
2019 drew in Wexford park - Won in Croke Park
2020 - didn't play
2021 - drew in Croke Park. 8 point loss in extra time
2022 - won in Nolan Park

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 24/05/2022 14:06:24    2419973

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I dont think anyone in Clare thinks "we have made our point" and now have nothing to lose. This team is gunning for a Munster championship now."
I was talking about yere determination and enthusiasm. Not yere aspirations.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3162 - 24/05/2022 14:16:48    2419977

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Replying To theboys:  "Stone age hurling from Kilkenny was a massive help to us,Richie Reid just lumping ball after ball down on our spare men he never even looked,they may get rid of him as sweeper and get a lad that can play ball!!!that sucked the life out of Kilkenny and played into our hands big time!!! We are only covering over cracks at the min,any team that can play ball we are gone!!! totally over hyped again won't pull the wool over my eyes!!!"
Pro football man, I say you are so sick that the hurlers won on Saturday night, it probably ruined your summer:)

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 24/05/2022 14:18:14    2419980

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I dont think anyone in Clare thinks "we have made our point" and now have nothing to lose. This team is gunning for a Munster championship now."
Didya decide what to do about the holiday yet?!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 24/05/2022 14:30:39    2419987

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Replying To Viking66:  "We have only played them there a handful of times in Championship. Mostly we played them in Croke Park"
Somebody said over the weekend that it goes back as far as 1907 that we beat them in Nowlan park.
Don't know if that is true or not.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 24/05/2022 14:37:40    2419988

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Replying To Samson55:  "Somebody said over the weekend that it goes back as far as 1907 that we beat them in Nowlan park.
Don't know if that is true or not."
Saw that myself, but according to the Dominic Williams "Wexford GAA Bible", we didn't even play them in Nowlan Park in 1907. Kilkenny beat Wexford that year all right, but according to the "Bible", the match was in Jones's Road (now Croke Park).

Also according to the "Bible", the only other times we've played Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in the championship were 1943, 1945, 1947, 1950, 2015 and 2018. So even though we lost them all, the whole idea of never having beaten them there before in the championship is nowhere near as bad as it might sound. It's not as though they were handing out regular beatings to us there for a century or more.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3009 - 24/05/2022 15:10:21    2419996

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Replying To Samson55:  "Somebody said over the weekend that it goes back as far as 1907 that we beat them in Nowlan park.
Don't know if that is true or not."
Could be. Take hours to find that out!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 24/05/2022 15:27:08    2420000

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Saw that myself, but according to the Dominic Williams "Wexford GAA Bible", we didn't even play them in Nowlan Park in 1907. Kilkenny beat Wexford that year all right, but according to the "Bible", the match was in Jones's Road (now Croke Park).

Also according to the "Bible", the only other times we've played Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in the championship were 1943, 1945, 1947, 1950, 2015 and 2018. So even though we lost them all, the whole idea of never having beaten them there before in the championship is nowhere near as bad as it might sound. It's not as though they were handing out regular beatings to us there for a century or more."
Haven't got Dominics book to hand. I'm in the workshop. What's the record over the years for games in Wexford Park Pikeman?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 24/05/2022 15:28:48    2420001

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Saw that myself, but according to the Dominic Williams "Wexford GAA Bible", we didn't even play them in Nowlan Park in 1907. Kilkenny beat Wexford that year all right, but according to the "Bible", the match was in Jones's Road (now Croke Park).

Also according to the "Bible", the only other times we've played Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in the championship were 1943, 1945, 1947, 1950, 2015 and 2018. So even though we lost them all, the whole idea of never having beaten them there before in the championship is nowhere near as bad as it might sound. It's not as though they were handing out regular beatings to us there for a century or more."
Well researched pikeman.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 24/05/2022 15:32:53    2420003

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Saw that myself, but according to the Dominic Williams "Wexford GAA Bible", we didn't even play them in Nowlan Park in 1907. Kilkenny beat Wexford that year all right, but according to the "Bible", the match was in Jones's Road (now Croke Park).

Also according to the "Bible", the only other times we've played Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in the championship were 1943, 1945, 1947, 1950, 2015 and 2018. So even though we lost them all, the whole idea of never having beaten them there before in the championship is nowhere near as bad as it might sound. It's not as though they were handing out regular beatings to us there for a century or more."
Kk have beat us 54 times we have won 22 times and 3 draws in championship senior hurling but all that counts for nothing really not into how many times we won or lost to anyone is immaterial its all in the present and future u look to can't change the past.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 410 - 24/05/2022 15:36:37    2420005

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Is this accurate? I just read Liam Sheehy's article in the Cork Examiner. Surely, last Saturday was not Wexford's first time beating Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in senior championship hurling?

" He and his team had left themselves an uphill battle but deserve enormous credit for delivering when the need was greatest. Especially in Nowlan Park where they'd never won before in championship.""
You know what I really did not like was getting a hiding in CP and coming home and having Kilkenny cars on the Wexord road. All I say is thank god over the years we didn't play them in Kilkenny.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2040 - 24/05/2022 16:52:30    2420027

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