National Forum

2022 Wexford Intercounty Hurling

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To theboys:  "Well then u are blaming him,he trained that group to death and played the same 17 or 18 now they have nottin to give and left the rest of the panel train like mad and got no game time now most of that panel nowhere to be seen!!! The proof is in the results lads fact!!! we are sliding and will keep sliding if we don't change and play all the young lads and create a new generation and culture with the new crop!!! Every team has its time and this teams got a Leinster title and they are done move on!!!great times!!! We will get hidings starting from scratch but it's all a learning curve and we will be the better for it going forward!! To many lads on there last leg"
We finished strong against Galway and Dublin with same players as Davy so fitness/over training might not be an issue. Every county team trains to the limits and gets injuries' - Cian Lynch, Jason Flynn, Iarlaith Daly all injured this year - it happens. Maybe we aren't sliding but Davy got the most out of the team and we overachieved. Egan is basically playing the same 17 or 18 as Davy did so they must be the best players in the county. Saying that there are 2 of Davy's main men starting tomorrow that have been below par all year but looks like there's nobody else stepping up.

grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 182 - 20/05/2022 12:55:57    2418931

Link

Replying To Shocs07:  "To be fair LRH, we're not quite back to our best. Between injuries and lack of game time for some players we're certainly not at the pitch of this time last year.
Don't understand slating Davy on this site. He got the most out of a group that are sadly now on the way down from that peak. And giving other players a run just for the sake of it makes no sense if they're not good enough"
I think with the Davy bashing some people want an excuse and in fairness to them, Davy is an easy target but while I am no supporter of him, blaming Davy for this years championship performance levels is laughable.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 20/05/2022 12:59:29    2418934

Link

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 204 - 20/05/2022 12:49:36 2418924
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2121 - 20/05/2022 12:50:06 2418925

Coincidence?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 20/05/2022 13:00:03    2418935

Link

Replying To StoreysTash:  "Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 204 - 20/05/2022 12:49:36 2418924
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2121 - 20/05/2022 12:50:06 2418925

Coincidence?"
Haha tin foil hats in strawberry country or what.

Surely if we were the same person, by the time I would have logged out and logged in as LRH and typed my message more than 30 secs would have passed. I do put thought into what I say, unlike some around here it would seem

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 20/05/2022 13:38:13    2418954

Link

Good luck and produce that exhilarating display that is always in ye.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3162 - 20/05/2022 13:48:42    2418959

Link

Replying To Ban:  "I'm not too familiar with the team and potential players. Just wondering if Darragh Egan started that integration process?"
He did in the league to tbf, but has reverted back to Davys 15 in the last few games of the championship. It doesn't read well when your seeing the same 15 bar one or two for the last 3-4 years. However, up until this year's u20 crop our underage has been desperate since the Leinster winning U21s. People will say we could have won a Leinster with Rory's crop but they got hammered out the gate by Cork in a semi final and a year later Tipp put 8 goals past them. At the time I was hearing all these underage coaches going on the hurling podcast telling us that Wexford underage was thriving LOL

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 20/05/2022 13:48:45    2418960

Link

Best of luck to everybody involved tomorrow.
Get stuck in and give it your best shot!
Up Wexford!

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 20/05/2022 13:51:00    2418961

Link

Replying To Ban:  "I'm not too familiar with the team and potential players. Just wondering if Darragh Egan started that integration process?"
Our entire 1st 15 and most of the bench saw gametime in League or Championship under Davy. Granted he didn't bring along too many new faces from 2016 to 2019 but he did after that. Problem is with our lack of success under21 between 2015 and 2021 there haven't been many new players to integrate.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 20/05/2022 14:19:40    2418969

Link

Replying To Samson55:  "I'm afraid our friend " The Boys)" is up to his usual negative antics again. He constantly runs down wexford teams and only surfaces when he has something destructive to say
We all are entitled to our views and sometimes honesty hurts but there must be balance in our posting.
Not everything is wrong with wexford hurling. There are issues to be sorted. Yes new blood needs to be found but it doesn't happen overnight. We must keep experimenting and all should be given a fair chance to show what they can do.
I don't think our panel is very strong at the moment but we can only play with what's out there. Let's give Darragh Egan a bit of breathing space. Its his first year and he will learn from his mistakes.
I personally don't believe we will beat Kilkenny tomorrow but with Wexford you never know what you'll get."
Kilkenny are favourites for sure and are at home. But it has to be said they haven't looked great this year except against a really flat Dublin team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 20/05/2022 14:21:20    2418970

Link

Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "
Replying To StoreysTash:  "Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 204 - 20/05/2022 12:49:36 2418924
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2121 - 20/05/2022 12:50:06 2418925

Coincidence?"
Haha tin foil hats in strawberry country or what.

Surely if we were the same person, by the time I would have logged out and logged in as LRH and typed my message more than 30 secs would have passed. I do put thought into what I say, unlike some around here it would seem"
Or 2 browsers. The man protests too much....

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 20/05/2022 14:27:15    2418974

Link

Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Just pointing out that some of ye need to smell the roses and stop looking for quite frankly ridiculous arguments as to why ye cant even beat Westmeath in the championship. Blaming last years managers for this years performance levels is laughable. It is not a Clare thing, I do not like Davy myself one bit and the circus he brings."
Alot of those Westmeath lads beat Kilkenny at u21 and did well against Kilkenny and Dublin too. They are a fair team. We lost that game because we hit 21 wides and dropped the ball into our own net twice. Kilkenny and Dublin didn't so they beat Westmeath. At the same time we beat Laois by more than KK, Dublin or Galway did. If we don't qualify it won't be because of the draw in Mullingar. It will be because we didn't turn up at all for the 1st 45 minutes against Galway and only played in patches against what has turned out to be a pretty flat Dublin team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 20/05/2022 14:28:11    2418975

Link

Replying To hunting:  "Who do u think are all these players on their last legs?"
Most of the team and panel aren't even 30 yet. I was wondering that myself Hunting

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 20/05/2022 14:30:11    2418976

Link

Replying To hunting:  "Who do u think are all these players on their last legs?"
In fact 3/4 of them are under 28.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 20/05/2022 14:30:57    2418978

Link

Replying To Ban:  "I'm not too familiar with the team and potential players. Just wondering if Darragh Egan started that integration process?"
Slowly but surely.

Quite a few involved in Walsh Cup.

The likes of McGukian, o Foley and pepper are brand new.

There was a falling out over Oisín with Davy and an opinion that he's 2 or 3 years behind as a result.

Devitt, flood and Hearne were in and around the panel but have got a proper chance now.

The minor team of 19 should be priority next season to keep this going.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3884 - 20/05/2022 14:31:10    2418979

Link

Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "
Replying To StoreysTash:  "Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 204 - 20/05/2022 12:49:36 2418924
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2121 - 20/05/2022 12:50:06 2418925

Coincidence?"
Haha tin foil hats in strawberry country or what.

Surely if we were the same person, by the time I would have logged out and logged in as LRH and typed my message more than 30 secs would have passed. I do put thought into what I say, unlike some around here it would seem"
Ah too much thought makes for a dull lad LRH!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 20/05/2022 14:32:51    2418980

Link

Your right LRH blaming Davy for our performances this year is laughable. I think mistakes have been made by the players and Darragh Egan. If you take Fanning for example he's had a really bad championship, missed 2 penalties, threw a ball into the net v Westmeath and for their 2nd goal didn't command his area, he should have taken ball, man and all. We also had 21 wide's in that game.

As for management I think we can all agree on here that mistakes have been made from selecting the wrong team, picking a half forward line with no ball winners, conceding the puck out etc... But its Darragh first year in management and mistakes will happen, I've no doubt he will learn quickly.

Anyway lets get behind the boys tomorrow night, I'm confident we can get a result.
LRH: Best of luck to Clare in the Munster final I've never had any issues with Clare and wish ye well.

logger (Wexford) - Posts: 310 - 20/05/2022 14:32:55    2418981

Link

Replying To theboys:  "Well then u are blaming him,he trained that group to death and played the same 17 or 18 now they have nottin to give and left the rest of the panel train like mad and got no game time now most of that panel nowhere to be seen!!! The proof is in the results lads fact!!! we are sliding and will keep sliding if we don't change and play all the young lads and create a new generation and culture with the new crop!!! Every team has its time and this teams got a Leinster title and they are done move on!!!great times!!! We will get hidings starting from scratch but it's all a learning curve and we will be the better for it going forward!! To many lads on there last leg"
Bizarre... How many of the panel are over 30?

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 20/05/2022 14:43:28    2418986

Link

Replying To Viking66:  "Most of the team and panel aren't even 30 yet. I was wondering that myself Hunting"
Most of the key players are close too or are 30. Fanning, Hanlon, O Keefe, Chin, Liam OG, Morris. Sean Murphy (not involved this year I know). Many of these players apart from Morris and Murphy play every game. That is close to the spine of our team. They won't be around in the next two years alot of them. A rebuilding job is coming down the line and we may have a few years of hardship again before we get back to winning things again. Players like Cathal Dunbar and Connal Flood should be regularly starting by now but for some reason are still stuck on the bench and had little championship experience. That's the biggest failure of Davy Fitz reign.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 20/05/2022 14:46:15    2418989

Link

I think Daire Egan will be better for what he has learned this year with Wexford.

From an outside view, I think the Davy era was a lot of bluster and much ado about nothing to be frank. He never beat a Munster team in the championship, a feat even his much maligned predecessor Liam Dunne did with a young team which Davy took over.

Wexford would have been out of the championship but for Dublin beating Galway in 2019. How differently would you Wexford supporters have judged the Davy era then?

Every week there was stuff in the paper about feuds with anonymous supporters catchcalling him from behind the dug out in a championship match behind closed doors and this sort of rubbish.

Davy didn't sleep walk in to the Wexford job, he was more than clued in to the talented team he was taking over. And he won 1 Leinster title. With 3 U21 Leinster titles, it was hardly earth shattering achievement. There was also very poor defeats where Wexford went down without a fight, e.g. v Galway in Croke Park twice, Antrim in the league, multiple times v Clare, hammered by Tipp in a league semi.

As an outsider living in Wexford, in a way a half-hearted Wexford supporter since the young lads needed a driver to get to matches, I found the whole era all fur coat and no knickers.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1460 - 20/05/2022 15:05:18    2418998

Link

Replying To logger:  "Your right LRH blaming Davy for our performances this year is laughable. I think mistakes have been made by the players and Darragh Egan. If you take Fanning for example he's had a really bad championship, missed 2 penalties, threw a ball into the net v Westmeath and for their 2nd goal didn't command his area, he should have taken ball, man and all. We also had 21 wide's in that game.

As for management I think we can all agree on here that mistakes have been made from selecting the wrong team, picking a half forward line with no ball winners, conceding the puck out etc... But its Darragh first year in management and mistakes will happen, I've no doubt he will learn quickly.

Anyway lets get behind the boys tomorrow night, I'm confident we can get a result.
LRH: Best of luck to Clare in the Munster final I've never had any issues with Clare and wish ye well."
You know, there are years when if you have been flogged to death the previous year it is hard to reach the same intensity, even as a club player I think people feel it. We had a manager who ran us into the ground and when training started the following year, we all felt flat and couldn't move. There is some thing about fast and slow twitch fibres in your muscles and repeatedly over exerting one means they start to break down, or something.

One thing is Darragh Egan said in some interview was he views Wexford as a rebuild. I get that part but where are the new players then? We were talking after training the other night, the treatment of Oisin Pepper is still rankling with a lot of people. Wexford could have been in an All-Ireland on Sunday but for those 5 minutes v Galway/Dublin.

Can't wait for tomorrow night now, I just hope we can have something to shout about in Nowlan Park. Taking a study break to go to it and hope it worth it!

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 20/05/2022 15:13:56    2419007

Link