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Replying To hunting:  "How are we on the injury front for Saturday lads?"
Heard an interview with Egan on Donohoes Skoda Facebook page. He stated that we should have a full squad to choose from apart from Shane Reck who is making good progress with his injury. He seemed very confident that we are going to deliver a huge performance on Saturday .

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/05/2022 09:35:45    2418576

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Heard an interview with Egan on Donohoes Skoda Facebook page. He stated that we should have a full squad to choose from apart from Shane Reck who is making good progress with his injury. He seemed very confident that we are going to deliver a huge performance on Saturday ."
Hope he's right!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 19/05/2022 09:39:39    2418578

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Is it that on the website? Would love to read that."
The bulletin is here http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2022/05/wexford-gaa-bulletin-13/

I posted on the football forum about an account I got from the meeting which was very positive. The chairman outlined that work is going on behind the scenes to attract the best people to positions. No names were mentioned but it appears a certain high profile boxing coach is being targetted for a full time role down the line.

Groundball (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 19/05/2022 10:06:50    2418593

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Replying To Groundball:  "The bulletin is here http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2022/05/wexford-gaa-bulletin-13/

I posted on the football forum about an account I got from the meeting which was very positive. The chairman outlined that work is going on behind the scenes to attract the best people to positions. No names were mentioned but it appears a certain high profile boxing coach is being targetted for a full time role down the line."
Who the high profile boxing coach is I wonder ;)

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1460 - 19/05/2022 10:24:03    2418601

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I am all for a review and a different approach being tried, but then I read a sentence like this:

"To foster a holistic Player Pathway for our young players based on development opportunities and synergy between stakeholders."

I can't help but feel it's all a bit corporate speak. No harm presenting it in layman's terms rather than that jargon, and I'm afraid it's all fur coat no knickers.

But I welcome anything that ultimately leads to improvement across the board in both codes.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1503 - 19/05/2022 10:28:22    2418604

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Add if we are good enough to that as well because that's the main if."
That goes without saying.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 19/05/2022 10:28:29    2418605

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Who the high profile boxing coach is I wonder ;)"
Maybe all our young lads should do a bit of boxing training. Would get them more used to contact?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 19/05/2022 11:13:24    2418620

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Tom Dempsey is going for a Kilkenny win on Saturday. As Tom usually gets his predictions wrong i think I'll stick a few euros on Wexford. Back to the match. Everything is against us winning. Their winning margins against Galway, Dublin and Westmeath. We beat Laois by more than they did but i wouldn't read too much into that. Then there's the Nowlan park factor. We don't usually come out of there with a win too often. This Kilkenny side are no world beaters but their subs bench is a lot stronger than ours plus their new introductions this year are looking good.
We do have a chance however but only if we raise our game way above our previous performances.
Now im heading to the betting shop.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 19/05/2022 13:06:46    2418683

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Replying To Samson55:  "Tom Dempsey is going for a Kilkenny win on Saturday. As Tom usually gets his predictions wrong i think I'll stick a few euros on Wexford. Back to the match. Everything is against us winning. Their winning margins against Galway, Dublin and Westmeath. We beat Laois by more than they did but i wouldn't read too much into that. Then there's the Nowlan park factor. We don't usually come out of there with a win too often. This Kilkenny side are no world beaters but their subs bench is a lot stronger than ours plus their new introductions this year are looking good.
We do have a chance however but only if we raise our game way above our previous performances.
Now im heading to the betting shop."
Good man Samson!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 19/05/2022 13:34:23    2418697

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Replying To Groundball:  "The bulletin is here http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2022/05/wexford-gaa-bulletin-13/

I posted on the football forum about an account I got from the meeting which was very positive. The chairman outlined that work is going on behind the scenes to attract the best people to positions. No names were mentioned but it appears a certain high profile boxing coach is being targetted for a full time role down the line."
This all sounds good and heading in the right direction.

Attracting the right people is important too.
That high profile guy might not be available until the Olympic cycle is over in the summer of 2024 ... but like Man City waiting for Guardiola, he'd be worth it.

Overall, it's good news.

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 19/05/2022 14:44:53    2418725

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With Egan saying we have a clear bill of health for Saturday I'd say the team will be named tonight. Are we expecting many changes? I'd like to see Conall Flood come in at midfield with Dee as impact sub . Think Floods pace and score taking could be a huge asset there

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/05/2022 16:24:57    2418763

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Replying To Afinestick:  "With Egan saying we have a clear bill of health for Saturday I'd say the team will be named tonight. Are we expecting many changes? I'd like to see Conall Flood come in at midfield with Dee as impact sub . Think Floods pace and score taking could be a huge asset there"
Agree 100%. Dee is a fine player but has not hit top form in recent outings. I think Flood should definitely start. This game will be all about pace and intensity.
He should persist with Jacko in the half forward line to add strength and ariel ability.
Hope Gippo and Chinner are fighting fit.
Yeah I'd expect the team to be announced tonight maybe.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 19/05/2022 17:07:24    2418779

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Replying To tearintom:  "TBF i dont think many people are expecting us to win All Irelands, just frustration with losing to the likes of Dublin and drawing with Westmeath when we are better than that.

I think one of the issues across the county is we are slow to change and also a little bit wary of it. And thats across the board, club and county.

I know from my own club for example, a club that would have been traditionally strong but thats over 40 years ago, theres still a constant harking back to "how thinsg were done back then". I fought for the Club to spend money on gym equipment and a coach to develop a programme for the players but again reluctance because thats not how it was done before when we were winning county titles. Its 2022 and we are years behind other clubs in terms of Sand C cos of being a slave to tradition.

We always seem to be catching up at county level, never the ones pushing the boundaries of evolution, i mean when Davy was in charge we heard more **** about it not being the "traditional" was Wexford play which has served us how well exactly since the 60's?

In fact the last time we did push the boundaries for me was when Griffin was in charge bringing in Niamh Fitzpatrick on the psychology side, we were amongst the first to ever do it and look what happened.

Whens the last time we had an academy restructure underage? How does that academy work with schools and Clubs? Look at the success in Limerick as a result of their academy restructure for example, we should be looking at it and more, when Limerick academy started every Limerick manager was brought into a meeting one evening - from senior boss John Allen all the way down to the under14s. They were asked if they wanted their teams primarily to win. Almost every hand went up. But the managers were told that only John Allen's hand - as senior manager - should be raised. The rest should be in situ to develop their hurlers for the long-term good of Limerick hurling. Can we honestly say thats the ethos in Wexford?

We now have a good base but you can see we are struggling underage and being caught up, time for a restructre, underage is where its at imho."
That's a very good and interesting post.

How did you hear about what they did in the Limerick Academy?

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 19/05/2022 17:28:40    2418785

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Replying To Afinestick:  "With Egan saying we have a clear bill of health for Saturday I'd say the team will be named tonight. Are we expecting many changes? I'd like to see Conall Flood come in at midfield with Dee as impact sub . Think Floods pace and score taking could be a huge asset there"
Flood could play wing forward either? Dee usually plays well against KK. Maybe go-
Fanning
Donohue
Ryan
Devitt
P Foley
Reck
MOH
Dee
Liam og
Flood
Chin
Jacko
Morris
Mac
Rory
Subs-
Lawlor
Oisin F
Kevin F
Dwyer
Dunbar
Hearne
McGuckin
Banville
Pepper
C Byrne
Scallan or Lawlor
Or maybe start Oisin and bring on Jacko. His best games for Wexford seem to be off the bench. Or start Oisin and Jacko beside Chin, move Flood to 7 and MOH to 4 and put Devitt on the bench. We do have some good options on the bench. Kevin Foley would have experience, Dunbar, Mcguckin, Dwyer and Hearne have pace and/or energy. The u20s have pace too. And bring on lads early if there are lads not at it from the start. Nothing wrong with bringing on a sub after 15 or 20 minutes.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 19/05/2022 17:34:32    2418789

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Replying To Viking66:  "Maybe all our young lads should do a bit of boxing training. Would get them more used to contact?"
Bit of boxing training wouldnt do them any harm.

Toughen some of them up and improve their footwork.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 19/05/2022 21:00:10    2418821

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Disappointing not to see Flood starting. Any possibility Kevin foley could be deployed as sweeper? With Oisin moving to the half forward line and then an inside forward line of Mac and Rory. Kilkenny have struggled to deal with the sweeper in the past.

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 20/05/2022 07:26:37    2418829

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Replying To Viking66:  "Flood could play wing forward either? Dee usually plays well against KK. Maybe go-
Fanning
Donohue
Ryan
Devitt
P Foley
Reck
MOH
Dee
Liam og
Flood
Chin
Jacko
Morris
Mac
Rory
Subs-
Lawlor
Oisin F
Kevin F
Dwyer
Dunbar
Hearne
McGuckin
Banville
Pepper
C Byrne
Scallan or Lawlor
Or maybe start Oisin and bring on Jacko. His best games for Wexford seem to be off the bench. Or start Oisin and Jacko beside Chin, move Flood to 7 and MOH to 4 and put Devitt on the bench. We do have some good options on the bench. Kevin Foley would have experience, Dunbar, Mcguckin, Dwyer and Hearne have pace and/or energy. The u20s have pace too. And bring on lads early if there are lads not at it from the start. Nothing wrong with bringing on a sub after 15 or 20 minutes."
Team named. Devitt in the corner and Flood on the bench and Kevin Foley starting instead of Paul Morris. Hope he's not afraid of subbing lads early if they are not performing. If everyone on the pitch plays near their best level no reason we shouldn't win. Good luck to all the lads involved!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 20/05/2022 07:35:02    2418830

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Replying To Afinestick:  "With Egan saying we have a clear bill of health for Saturday I'd say the team will be named tonight. Are we expecting many changes? I'd like to see Conall Flood come in at midfield with Dee as impact sub . Think Floods pace and score taking could be a huge asset there"
Yet they release the team yesterday evening saying we have numerous injury concerns with fitness decisions to be made prior to the game!!

Kinda hard to know what the actual story is.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1551 - 20/05/2022 08:29:36    2418831

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Big game the weekend,I really fear for us!!!,I have no doubt that we could possibly turn over Kilkenny if we happen to have a good day but I feel this teams race is run!!! in that I think we are in the same position as Clare were when Davy left,the fall out after all the efforts that go into Davy's training!!!i think we are flat,our leaders and more senior lads just look spent and it's very hard to get it back to be honest!!! Our performances have been very poor,I just look at the other teams around and they introduce a couple of young lads and they stick and make a difference bring a bit of freshness but none of ours have and last week we were back to the same team as old and it wasn't good enough!!! Kilkenny just stay goin and can get over the line in games and we find it very hard even when we are goin well!!!I hope I'm wrong but going on form no chance the weekend

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 286 - 20/05/2022 08:52:43    2418832

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Replying To theboys:  "Big game the weekend,I really fear for us!!!,I have no doubt that we could possibly turn over Kilkenny if we happen to have a good day but I feel this teams race is run!!! in that I think we are in the same position as Clare were when Davy left,the fall out after all the efforts that go into Davy's training!!!i think we are flat,our leaders and more senior lads just look spent and it's very hard to get it back to be honest!!! Our performances have been very poor,I just look at the other teams around and they introduce a couple of young lads and they stick and make a difference bring a bit of freshness but none of ours have and last week we were back to the same team as old and it wasn't good enough!!! Kilkenny just stay goin and can get over the line in games and we find it very hard even when we are goin well!!!I hope I'm wrong but going on form no chance the weekend"
The year after Davy left we got into the Munster final (something Davy never managed with Clare).

The year after that we also got into the Munster final and had a replayed All Ireland semi final against Galway.

Clare's performance level improved in the years after Davy left when compared to the shambles of 14/15/16.

IMO it is very unfair to blame Davy for what is going on this year with Wexford. Quite simply, it looked like ye peaked for the league. Some new managers go a bit too hard too early trying to set out their stall and I think that what you are seeing here. I mean ye beat us in Ennis this year in the league, when was the last time that happened? But look at the differences in the teams now.

I think (2019 in particular) Davy extracted the maximum from your panel, a bit like what Brian Lohan is doing now with Clare. With due respect I think Wexford's real position in Leinster is to slug it out with Dublin each year to qualify. I think that is your standard. I dont like DF myself but to blame him for your performance levels this championship is laughable.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 20/05/2022 09:33:14    2418839

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