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maybe you should give this westmeath team abit of respect, they are a very decent team with some v good players worth their place on any team. Its not all about how bad wexford were this evening, they have gone back a bit but westmeath are improving all the time and its probably their best team since the mid 1980s
preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 804 - 14/05/2022 20:20:34
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Replying To Onfor15: "There is no evidence yet that Egan is any better or worse than Davy.
So far he has had 2 championship games, without Chin able to start, and we had very similar results against both Dublin and Galway as we did under Davy.
Converting just 1 of the missed frees along with either the penalty or the McDonald chance raising the green flag, we would have bettered our best result v Dublin under Davy.
Last week we equalled our best result v Galway under Davy.
Davy wasn't the problem, Egan isn't the problem and the next manager won't be the problem either.
The problem is we do not have the players good enough to consistently get results at the top level. We have players good enough to occasionally get a result, but not consistently.
Our senior club championship for all it's closeness and competitiveness is a pretty poor standard and our underage teams have hardly been setting the world alight over the last 5/6 years.
Our best 3/4 players are as good as any county's, but we don't have enough of them. There are players on our starting team who wouldn't even be in most other top counties panels. And that has been the case for at least the last 20 years.
For the record:
Davy's Championship record v Galway:
9 point loss, 9 point loss, Draw, 13 point loss
Egan's Championship record v Galway:
Draw
Davy's Championship record v Dublin:
2 point win, Draw
Egan's Championship record v Dublin:
1 point loss" Everyone now is going to be calling for Egan to go after this result.
Which will be focusing on the wrong issues.
I'd just like to refresh this post I made after the Dublin game.
We had 21 wides tonight. Egan didn't hit them.
We do not have the players good enough and nor will we have them for at least the next 4/5 years on the basis of the underage teams I've seen.
We are very lucky that this Westmeath loss happened this year, because if it happened in a year with only 5 in Leinster then we'd be facing Kilkenny next week needing a win to avoid being in the Joe McDonagh next year. And I think avoiding Joe McDonagh should be our main priority over the next few years until such time as we have team good enough to compete for honours.
Let's be honest, the 2019 Leinster win was a fluke and since then we have been very average in the championship.
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 533 - 14/05/2022 20:21:53
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Replying To Tox73: "Holy Moly, that is a disaster ,a shocking result. Imagine if this happened in any other county would Management keep their job?" NOOOOOOOOO this result is completely unacceptable......where is yer pride ffs!!
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2676 - 14/05/2022 20:22:12
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A new low
FearBeag (Mayo) - Posts: 94 - 14/05/2022 20:23:41
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I don't even know what to say.
ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 14/05/2022 20:25:02
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Replying To hurlorhurley: "Laois are useless it'll be the same next week v Westmeath two teams way off the pace. A four horse race for three qualifying spots.
Scoring difference should be done away with in this group" you are some boy at predictions.Have a nice Saturday!!!
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1767 - 14/05/2022 20:27:13
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Replying To FearBeag: "A new low" you would be an expert on that
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1767 - 14/05/2022 20:28:37
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Fair play to Westmeath. Their manager and coach are both Wexford men.
bottletopbill (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 14/05/2022 20:40:39
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Replying To Onfor15: "Everyone now is going to be calling for Egan to go after this result.
Which will be focusing on the wrong issues.
I'd just like to refresh this post I made after the Dublin game.
We had 21 wides tonight. Egan didn't hit them.
We do not have the players good enough and nor will we have them for at least the next 4/5 years on the basis of the underage teams I've seen.
We are very lucky that this Westmeath loss happened this year, because if it happened in a year with only 5 in Leinster then we'd be facing Kilkenny next week needing a win to avoid being in the Joe McDonagh next year. And I think avoiding Joe McDonagh should be our main priority over the next few years until such time as we have team good enough to compete for honours.
Let's be honest, the 2019 Leinster win was a fluke and since then we have been very average in the championship." Yet only 12 months ago we were bringing Kilkenny to extra time and unlucky to be doing so, people bemoaned losing to teams like Clare because we apparently had the players to be doing better.
So how are Clare going these days?
How are we?
Do we have the players to be winning in mullingar? Of course we do
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1542 - 14/05/2022 20:41:21
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Management are utterly clueless and don't know how to get Rory O Connor into the game. All credit to Westmeath, they wanted it more. People saying this our possible strongest lineup heading into today. That's more or less the same lineup we had in 19. We've had fuck all coming through in the last 3 years. Where's the next Rory O Connor, Lee Chin coming from? The lads who have come onto the panel of recent years are only realistically are making zero impact on this panel.
U20s are a very good team and I do expect a fair bit of that crop to go through but that alone is not going to get us back to where we want to be.
Plus why did the county board appoint a manager with zero experience of being an intercounty manager to replace one of the top managers in the country. Why is Derek McGrath with the Laois minors and not managing us.
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First of all well done Westmeath.
The only positive is that if we beat Kilkenny next week and Galway beat Dublin we'll finish third on score difference but beating Kilkenny next week would be well nigh miraculous. Hard to know what else to say at the moment
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 14/05/2022 20:43:38
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What hurling were Westmeath doing in the 50's..............these Wexford lads need a good kick up the a###e dreadful result and no excuses.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2676 - 14/05/2022 20:48:00
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Replying To Aspect24: "I'm pretty new to this and I Completely agree regarding the negative comments. This is a forum for debate not sledging. McGuckian is a young up and coming hurler and remember Charlie doesn't pick the team it's Egan that picks it and he puts him in so get on with it. I'd love to know the identity of some of the lads on this and see it the know have they had much of a "hurling career" themselves or are they pub pundits. This is a national forum and looking at other counties forum we are definitely the worst for turning on our own. Heres to a great day in Mullingar." Totally agree lad and welcome aboard.
Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 14/05/2022 21:08:46
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Replying To beano: "Absolute disaster. As bad a result I can remember in my lifetime and reminded me of the Bonnar days.
Yet again, hit too many wides. We will never contend with anyone so long as we trail so far behind in the accuracy stakes. The heart wasn't there, particularly when they got Glennon sent off- it's as if we just assumed we'd win.
None of our big name players stood up when it mattered. But at least we had a good league campaign eh?
One win out of four, against Laois, who were subsequently hammered again today. Dublin looked like last-four contenders against us but were unravelled against KK.
Whatever way you paint it, it's being a poor start to Egan's championship tenure. And he hindered our under-20s chances too with the furore with Pepper, who he didn't even use again today." Beano, I'm old enough to remember Roscommon beating us in the centenary cup in '84 which was a disaster then. We turned things around and beat Kilkenny in the championship. Hope lightening strikes twice!
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 14/05/2022 21:30:59
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Replying To zinny: "Can people just not accept that we will beat Westmeath but not by as much as some people on here think, and then if we don't beat Kilkenny we don't deserve to be in a Leinster final or qualify." ?
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 14/05/2022 21:31:37
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Replying To Finchfurlong996: "Management are utterly clueless and don't know how to get Rory O Connor into the game. All credit to Westmeath, they wanted it more. People saying this our possible strongest lineup heading into today. That's more or less the same lineup we had in 19. We've had fuck all coming through in the last 3 years. Where's the next Rory O Connor, Lee Chin coming from? The lads who have come onto the panel of recent years are only realistically are making zero impact on this panel.
U20s are a very good team and I do expect a fair bit of that crop to go through but that alone is not going to get us back to where we want to be.
Plus why did the county board appoint a manager with zero experience of being an intercounty manager to replace one of the top managers in the country. Why is Derek McGrath with the Laois minors and not managing us." I think that under 20 team could be the great white hope. I think if two of them make an impact at senior level that will be it. We were beaten by a very poor Kilkenny team last Monday night in a very average game. I'd be surprised in Kilkenny are within 6 points of limerick
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 14/05/2022 21:45:28
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Replying To Finchfurlong996: "Management are utterly clueless and don't know how to get Rory O Connor into the game. All credit to Westmeath, they wanted it more. People saying this our possible strongest lineup heading into today. That's more or less the same lineup we had in 19. We've had fuck all coming through in the last 3 years. Where's the next Rory O Connor, Lee Chin coming from? The lads who have come onto the panel of recent years are only realistically are making zero impact on this panel.
U20s are a very good team and I do expect a fair bit of that crop to go through but that alone is not going to get us back to where we want to be.
Plus why did the county board appoint a manager with zero experience of being an intercounty manager to replace one of the top managers in the country. Why is Derek McGrath with the Laois minors and not managing us." Why would a Derek McGrath or similar want to manage Wexford?
Is the job an appealing one from a short term chances of success point of view?
Any of the candidates touted to take over from Davy should have been very aware that they would be inheriting an ageing team, with very little talent coming through under the age of 25.
So many Wexford GAA supporters are in complete denial about our standards across all grades in both football and hurling.
Minor footballers and under 20 footballers hammered by Wicklow and Longford.
Minor hurlers beaten by Laois. Under 20 hurlers in fairness had good win over Dublin but struggled v Laois.
Senior footballers are a struggling division 4 team.
The problem goes back about 10 years when a quite decent coaching and games crew were got rid of. I think the current crew in charge are ok but the fruits of that won't be seen for 10 years
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 533 - 14/05/2022 21:46:08
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Definitely a new low for Wexford hurling. A lamentable performance, zero game plan, conceding puck outs, horrendous to watch, the standard was very poor.
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2304 - 14/05/2022 21:47:45
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Replying To jobber: "you are some boy at predictions.Have a nice Saturday!!!" You boys focus on staying up next weekend v Laois.
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 14/05/2022 21:48:04
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Replying To Finchfurlong996: "Management are utterly clueless and don't know how to get Rory O Connor into the game. All credit to Westmeath, they wanted it more. People saying this our possible strongest lineup heading into today. That's more or less the same lineup we had in 19. We've had fuck all coming through in the last 3 years. Where's the next Rory O Connor, Lee Chin coming from? The lads who have come onto the panel of recent years are only realistically are making zero impact on this panel.
U20s are a very good team and I do expect a fair bit of that crop to go through but that alone is not going to get us back to where we want to be.
Plus why did the county board appoint a manager with zero experience of being an intercounty manager to replace one of the top managers in the country. Why is Derek McGrath with the Laois minors and not managing us." They could of appointed Joe Fortune and Co!!!
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