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Is it time for the GAA to start looking at video assisted referees? With a replay Dublin could have lost 4 or 5 players last night through cynical and dangerous play. John Smalls challenge could have resulted in a goal which would have completely changed the outcome of the game. At the business end of things it comes down to small margins and refereeing can massively impact the outcome of a game. lumpitin21 (Armagh) - Posts: 4 - 15/08/2021 13:30:46 2371489 Link 1 |
No it's not,mayo won and deserved to win,move on.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 779 - 15/08/2021 13:43:16 2371496 Link 1 |
A coach's challenge like in basketball might be a better idea. Where the manager gets 2 or 3 challenges per game where they think the refs decision was incorrect. Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 57 - 15/08/2021 13:52:05 2371501 Link 2 |
No. Have more consistent decisions of clearly defined rules and better communication between 7 match officials.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 15/08/2021 13:52:44 2371502 Link 6 |
It is an absolute no brainer imo. If the linesman can miss a clear shoulder to the head that happened right in front of him then there's obviously a big case for it. jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 15/08/2021 14:54:23 2371527 Link 5 |
To be fair like a lot of things in real time it looked ok so probably difficult for any of the 7 officials to pick up at the time but could have had a huge bearing on the outcome of the game. No brainier for me also but it would need to be controlled in a way that the game isn't stop start a lot like the premier league. Yes Mayo won and deserved to win and everything else but that rub of the green can sometimes go against you and it can only be a matter of time before referees are assisted IMO. lumpitin21 (Armagh) - Posts: 4 - 15/08/2021 15:14:02 2371539 Link 0 |
OK then, Smalls challenge was an obvious foul and never mind Dublin getting a goal, had they put that chance over, then Mayo would have lost. You seem to think that since Mayo won there is no issue. The level of refereeing is horrendous so anything that assists in coming to the correct decision is needed.
PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1656 - 15/08/2021 15:16:08 2371542 Link 1 |
Think the post was relating to the fact that if dublin had of scored a goal from that play mayo most would have lost. All because a red card offence was missed and play continued while a player lay knocked out.
TYE08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 15/08/2021 15:55:57 2371560 Link 1 |
Soccer has proven that VAR doesn't actually stop contentious decisions. There are still arguments every game over what was or wasn't a card/free/penalty Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 15/08/2021 17:11:12 2371592 Link 1 |
Fair play, taking up this baton. I tried earlier this year. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1737 - 17/08/2021 11:47:26 2372306 Link 2 |
Agree with Breezy. Always loved watching soccer until VAR came to be. I thought it would be good but in my opinion it makes football (especially the premier league) very hard to watch. My preference in top level inter county GAA is for 2 referees to be on the pitch as in Australian Rules. If both are making their decisions independently and not worried about who is already on a yellow etc, it might lead to players just cleaning up their act. I know everyone has different opinions on this so not saying what I've suggested is the only way, but GAA needs something different to Rugby & Soccer as I don't think we want to slow the game down? slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/08/2021 13:01:41 2372349 Link 0 |
The crisis in refereeing is primarily to the definition of the tackle.If referees went by the rule book they would be stopping play for frees every few seconds for frees and then the referees would get sick for not letting the game flow. In real time Smalls tackle on Mc Loughlin looked like a good shoulder. It is a very difficult task to ref an inter county game with so much physicality involved.The GAA need to address the rules and clarify the tackle. And there are plenty of people out there giving out about referees who would not have the back bone to referee. ifindoubt (Donegal) - Posts: 133 - 17/08/2021 13:36:06 2372372 Link 4 |
Refereeing is a very tough business and I think the game has just gotten too fast and furious now, given the upswing in conditioning amongst the elite players. Plus the rules of football in particular keep changing, and it's a large area for one ref to monitor. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 17/08/2021 14:02:15 2372383 Link 0 |
Great point. 30 years ago, Mick O'Dwyer said there was no clearly defined tackle in Gaelic Football. Micko put forward one idea of making Gaelic football jerseys stronger and allowing a pull on the bottom half of the shirt, whereby if the pull on the jersey stopped the player's momentum, they had to release the ball. Not sure if this is workable, but at least the man made an effort to solve the issue. I think the issue with the Small tackle is that at the last second the tackler changed his step and there was upward movement of his arm and body into the ball carrier's head and body. Very difficult for officials to spot unless they are in the perfect position to see this. I didn't see the game live and heard about incidents. When I watched the recording in real time, I thought it was just a huge shoulder, but looking at it slowed down I saw things differently. Whatever anyone's thoughts on Small, it is not pleasant to see any player on the ground with injuries like that. I'd hate to be a referee. Absolutely thankless job. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/08/2021 14:05:38 2372388 Link 0 |
NO!! The only crisis in refereeing is that few want to do it because of the abuse they get on and off the field. It's horrendous and we don't hear the half of it. Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 17/08/2021 14:17:36 2372395 Link 2 |
Nobody is suggesting VAR in the Premier League sense here. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1737 - 17/08/2021 14:55:31 2372419 Link 3 |
Absolutely nailed it. In one of the fast sports in the world on the largest pitch the expectations for the referee is not reasonable. Stop hanging them out to dry with no help and in James Owens case giving him a badly constructed rule. Lets be honest here the rule was never close to being used again making Owens the goat. A good ref getting destroyed. Lambasted for using or making a mistake with a flawed rule that the designers now don't like in hind sight. Review red card requirement on the spot. It will avoid most incorrect calls and a game changing occurrence. These suspect appeals would be minimized and only should be tolerated if there is new evidence (footage) from what the 4th official presented. Glad Peter Casey is playing in the final bur someone got a happy meal from McDonalds for that recinding. Play it a dozen times. He fired a head. His intent and his reaction to it confirms that, as he left the field with the body language of a man that knew what he had done. No kudos to Gleeson for provoking the incident. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 17/08/2021 15:50:55 2372448 Link 1 |
Agree with your James Owens comment. Great ref and I had the fortune to work with him at an event a couple of years ago. Nice man who has a great manner with players. He made an error that's all. People need to learn to move on and not hang refs who give up a lot for the cause Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 17/08/2021 20:51:11 2372530 Link 0 |
Yeah, I would like to see it, just needs to be done in as swift a manner as possible as added time can be controversially long as it is eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 154 - 17/08/2021 22:01:11 2372553 Link 0 |
I was so glad we didn't score that goal, not when a lad lay badly injured.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 17/08/2021 23:57:46 2372580 Link 3 |