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Tyrone Withdrawl From AI Semi Final.

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Replying To sligo joe:  "In the six counties a person is considered a close contact even if vaccinated, not so here, if fully vaccinated you don't have to isolate or test. Quite a few vaccinated people here are asymptomatic positives. With the prevalence of asymptomatic positives, especially in younger people, there is little doubt if the Kerry, Dublin and Mayo squads were all tested some positives would be disclosed."
To be honest Joe I don't know much about this Covid 19 just that it's not good for you and if you're unlucky it'll leave you in a bad way or kill you plus they keep changing the rules so now I just zone out.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14010 - 14/08/2021 16:49:37    2370823

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Replying To Mailman98:  "I didn't see much sympathy for Sligo last year when they had to pull out of the Connacht championship. This game should not even have been postponed once never mind doing it again. Tyrone love to play the victims to get what they want. They made their decision now let's move on."
Sligo never requested a rescheduling of the game. Tyrone requested two weeks. So you are not comparing like with like.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 14/08/2021 16:49:41    2370824

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Replying To yew_tree:  "It's unfortunate and agree there are no winners here. Tyrone are the big losers but so are Kerry. However pushing it back further and in turn the final back sets a precedent. What happens if there is another outbreak on the Mayo or a Dublin camps...do we keep pushing back the final?

Club players in these counties have been waiting all year for championships and have planned their year around it including weddings. So it's a never ending cycle."
Yes.

Keep pushing it back until it's safe to have the game played if further outbreaks were to happen in Dublin or Mayo.

And if that means the 2021 championship is cancelled from here cause it cant be penciled in at some stage, so be it. It doesnt matter in comparison to peoples health really.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13617 - 14/08/2021 16:49:53    2370825

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Brian Dooher has stated in an interview that some of the players are very unwell and some sick but not as bad and some have just less symptoms. He states that the GAA have been given updates from the beginning about this crisis and that the decision taken is totally on medical advice and player welfare. It's not just a challenge match its an all ireland semi final where players would have to be at the highest level of fitness to compete and for Tyrone players that can't happen next weekend. Basically they're putting players welfare first and that has to be admired.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 823 - 14/08/2021 16:54:11    2370827

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Replying To artisan:  "I've heard numbers as well but nothing actually official. Again today there's no actual details in their statement.

It seems the easiest thing in the world for Tyrone to say today: we've X players tested positive and Y players identified by NHS as close contacts and self isolating. Where are those details in today's statement ?"
What do you mean "official", when the GPA say "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19", that's official enough.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 14/08/2021 16:55:42    2370828

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Replying To artisan:  "I've heard numbers as well but nothing actually official. Again today there's no actual details in their statement.

It seems the easiest thing in the world for Tyrone to say today: we've X players tested positive and Y players identified by NHS as close contacts and self isolating. Where are those details in today's statement ?"
I'm sure what they've relayed to the GAA is more detailed than the statement released to the public.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 203 - 14/08/2021 16:57:28    2370829

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Replying To artisan:  "I've heard numbers as well but nothing actually official. Again today there's no actual details in their statement.

It seems the easiest thing in the world for Tyrone to say today: we've X players tested positive and Y players identified by NHS as close contacts and self isolating. Where are those details in today's statement ?"
It's in the news that 20 players have tested positive. How are people not aware of this.

TYE08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 14/08/2021 16:58:56    2370831

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Replying To TYE08:  "It's in the news that 20 players have tested positive. How are people not aware of this."
Where did you read that? I've not seen numbers reported by any news outlet

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 203 - 14/08/2021 17:02:39    2370833

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Replying To superdub:  "Apparently Kerry would not agree to the 2 weeks so the gaa left it at the week. Tyrone were never going to be ready in that time so I think they did the right thing"
You're telling lies.

Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 244 - 14/08/2021 17:03:06    2370834

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Think it is v unfair on tyrone not to give them the time they need to properly prepare in the circumstances for Kerry. If the GAA do not relent here it throws the whole all ireland series into disarray. Ulster was the only proper competitive provincial championship. Tyrone had to beat last year's winners in the first round and then defeat two div 1 sides to win it and deserve better than this nonsense from the GAA.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1592 - 14/08/2021 17:07:42    2370836

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "What do you mean "official", when the GPA say "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19", that's official enough."
By official, I mean the Tyrone County Board - not third party reports.

Why are the Tyrone County Board treating these details like the third secret of Fatima ?

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1765 - 14/08/2021 17:09:28    2370837

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Give Tyrone the time they need or else give it to Monaghan or last years Champions Cavan, at least Kerry would get a game.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1824 - 14/08/2021 17:09:50    2370838

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Replying To artisan:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "What do you mean "official", when the GPA say "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19", that's official enough."
By official, I mean the Tyrone County Board - not third party reports.

Why are the Tyrone County Board treating these details like the third secret of Fatima ?"
So where do you think the GPA got the figure of 50% from ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 14/08/2021 17:19:57    2370843

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To artisan:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "What do you mean "official", when the GPA say "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19", that's official enough."
By official, I mean the Tyrone County Board - not third party reports.

Why are the Tyrone County Board treating these details like the third secret of Fatima ?"
So where do you think the GPA got the figure of 50% from ?"]No idea.

I do know though that they didn't get it from a Tyrone County Board statement.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1765 - 14/08/2021 17:25:48    2370846

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Kerry players safety comes into this as well. Tyrone might get the extra 8 days, GAA mightn't do it for Tyrones sake but think you'll find out money talks. Semi final gate money will win over.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1019 - 14/08/2021 17:27:43    2370848

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Replying To waynoI:  "Yes.

Keep pushing it back until it's safe to have the game played if further outbreaks were to happen in Dublin or Mayo.

And if that means the 2021 championship is cancelled from here cause it cant be penciled in at some stage, so be it. It doesnt matter in comparison to peoples health really."
Shouldn't we pack in the whole thing altogether then, at least for the next few seasons.
Covid will be here forever, and the onset of "long covid" among young people means that intercounty sportsmen will be vulnerable to this for quite some time,

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 957 - 14/08/2021 17:28:13    2370850

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Have to wonder about Tyrone's infection control systems

befair (Down) - Posts: 212 - 14/08/2021 17:30:49    2370851

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Replying To artisan:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=artisan:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "What do you mean "official", when the GPA say "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19", that's official enough."
By official, I mean the Tyrone County Board - not third party reports.

Why are the Tyrone County Board treating these details like the third secret of Fatima ?"
So where do you think the GPA got the figure of 50% from ?"]No idea.

I do know though that they didn't get it from a Tyrone County Board statement."]The GPA have been in close contact with the Tyrone camp and there is not a chance in hell that the GPA would have released such a statement regarding numbers had it not come directly from the Tyrone camp.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 14/08/2021 17:34:17    2370853

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To artisan:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=artisan:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "What do you mean "official", when the GPA say "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19", that's official enough."
By official, I mean the Tyrone County Board - not third party reports.

Why are the Tyrone County Board treating these details like the third secret of Fatima ?"
So where do you think the GPA got the figure of 50% from ?"]No idea.

I do know though that they didn't get it from a Tyrone County Board statement."]The GPA have been in close contact with the Tyrone camp and there is not a chance in hell that the GPA would have released such a statement regarding numbers had it not come directly from the Tyrone camp."]There's an issue of openness here - reporting something third hand gives people a get out and a deniability if it later turns out not to be true.

That deniability is lost if a public statement is issued, a public statement means accountability.

Hopefully the Tyrone County Board issue a public statement stating clearly :

1) How many players have tested positive

2) How many have been identified as close contacts by NHS necessitating a period of isolation.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1765 - 14/08/2021 17:42:45    2370856

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Replying To artisan:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=artisan:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=artisan:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "What do you mean "official", when the GPA say "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19", that's official enough."
By official, I mean the Tyrone County Board - not third party reports.

Why are the Tyrone County Board treating these details like the third secret of Fatima ?"
So where do you think the GPA got the figure of 50% from ?"]No idea.

I do know though that they didn't get it from a Tyrone County Board statement."]The GPA have been in close contact with the Tyrone camp and there is not a chance in hell that the GPA would have released such a statement regarding numbers had it not come directly from the Tyrone camp."]There's an issue of openness here - reporting something third hand gives people a get out and a deniability if it later turns out not to be true.

That deniability is lost if a public statement is issued, a public statement means accountability.

Hopefully the Tyrone County Board issue a public statement stating clearly :

1) How many players have tested positive

2) How many have been identified as close contacts by NHS necessitating a period of isolation."]Did the statement not say "affected by covid"? Very different to 50% having covid. Affected by covid covers a multitude. IMO Authorities would need a lot more detail before any decision on further extensions

commander (Kildare) - Posts: 222 - 14/08/2021 17:58:04    2370861

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