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Tyrone Withdrawl From AI Semi Final.

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "the gaa tried to force tyrones hand by putting tickets out for sale, guess it has backfired on them and looks like ticket sales usurped players welfare, lets hope the gaa now step up and offer the best medical experts available for any player country wide who has tested positive and may require long term rehab"
I hope ticket sales were not the determining factor here! Dubjohn asked the question what harm it was pushing out the match for a week or further. And i agree. If it affects the club championship it will only impact 3 countries.

The sacrifice these players make should not be taken for granted and if GAA won't accommodate Tyrone in these exceptional times it reflects very poorly.

Also i hope this isn't seen as any kind of anti Northern prejudice...... although one would wonder if the shoe was on the other foot and the outbreak took place in the Kerry camp would we be in this situation?

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 234 - 14/08/2021 15:24:11    2370780

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "the gaa tried to force tyrones hand by putting tickets out for sale, guess it has backfired on them and looks like ticket sales usurped players welfare, lets hope the gaa now step up and offer the best medical experts available for any player country wide who has tested positive and may require long term rehab"
The best medical advice for anyone who has tested positivewould probably be to completely retire from the exertions of intercounty football altogether,, can't take any chances...

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1263 - 14/08/2021 15:25:05    2370781

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Tyrone were correct in making their decision. I sometimes wonder have some of 'our friends' in Croke Park been on one of them trips to the moon!. One can take all the necessary precautions and still end up with the virus. A 6 day recovery plan does not works for an AI semi-final, maybe it would be fine for a stroll in the park with the dog.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2295 - 14/08/2021 15:29:07    2370783

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I didn't see much sympathy for Sligo last year when they had to pull out of the Connacht championship. This game should not even have been postponed once never mind doing it again. Tyrone love to play the victims to get what they want. They made their decision now let's move on.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 318 - 14/08/2021 15:38:03    2370787

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Are the Tyrone players actually ill or are they asymptomatic 'positive cases' as a result of a PCR test?

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 461 - 14/08/2021 15:57:31    2370798

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There's precious little actual facts surrounding this - I've read all week about an outbreak of covid and numerous players out but no actual details.

Have Tyrone actually clarified how many players currently have covid ? How many are currently isolating ?

This seems a petulant move in the absence of actual evidence they can't fulfil the fixture.

Best of luck Kerry in the final.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1765 - 14/08/2021 16:01:35    2370799

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Replying To Cbar:  "I hope ticket sales were not the determining factor here! Dubjohn asked the question what harm it was pushing out the match for a week or further. And i agree. If it affects the club championship it will only impact 3 countries.

The sacrifice these players make should not be taken for granted and if GAA won't accommodate Tyrone in these exceptional times it reflects very poorly.

Also i hope this isn't seen as any kind of anti Northern prejudice...... although one would wonder if the shoe was on the other foot and the outbreak took place in the Kerry camp would we be in this situation?"
Well when Covid hit the Kerry U20 panel last year and we were missing 7 first team players (our entire centre column and captain because they were close contacts) we had to play the allireland semifinal without them, Galway were also missing a few players through Covid but they ended up beating us easily in the finish so I don't think the gaa would have done my county any favours if it was us with the Covid problem.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/08/2021 16:01:57    2370800

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Replying To artisan:  "There's precious little actual facts surrounding this - I've read all week about an outbreak of covid and numerous players out but no actual details.

Have Tyrone actually clarified how many players currently have covid ? How many are currently isolating ?

This seems a petulant move in the absence of actual evidence they can't fulfil the fixture.

Best of luck Kerry in the final."
19 available was what I read can't remember where, so thats 11 with covid or isolating? Not sure of the panel size.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 205 - 14/08/2021 16:06:26    2370802

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Replying To artisan:  "There's precious little actual facts surrounding this - I've read all week about an outbreak of covid and numerous players out but no actual details.

Have Tyrone actually clarified how many players currently have covid ? How many are currently isolating ?

This seems a petulant move in the absence of actual evidence they can't fulfil the fixture.

Best of luck Kerry in the final."
The GAA know the numbers, that's all that matters.

It's already public knowledge that "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19".

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 14/08/2021 16:10:08    2370803

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Pity.. I was looking forward to seeing them get a good flaking off Kerry!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1297 - 14/08/2021 16:16:38    2370804

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Replying To superdub:  "Apparently Kerry would not agree to the 2 weeks so the gaa left it at the week. Tyrone were never going to be ready in that time so I think they did the right thing"
Oh yeah. Another bitter post from you. A whole back you posted also that it was obvious Kerry were training during lockdown. Who did you hear this from? Walter Mitty? You speak with forked tongue I think.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3037 - 14/08/2021 16:17:46    2370806

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Replying To joeteor:  "19 available was what I read can't remember where, so thats 11 with covid or isolating? Not sure of the panel size."
I've heard numbers as well but nothing actually official. Again today there's no actual details in their statement.

It seems the easiest thing in the world for Tyrone to say today: we've X players tested positive and Y players identified by NHS as close contacts and self isolating. Where are those details in today's statement ?

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1765 - 14/08/2021 16:18:09    2370807

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Replying To lilylanger:  "Is that true?"
Apparently not true at all. The truth is I don't know but I'm told Kerry were all for giving Tyrone more time as they want a semi final. That poster has posted lies before.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3037 - 14/08/2021 16:27:43    2370808

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Well when Covid hit the Kerry U20 panel last year and we were missing 7 first team players (our entire centre column and captain because they were close contacts) we had to play the allireland semifinal without them, Galway were also missing a few players through Covid but they ended up beating us easily in the finish so I don't think the gaa would have done my county any favours if it was us with the Covid problem."
In the six counties a person is considered a close contact even if vaccinated, not so here, if fully vaccinated you don't have to isolate or test. Quite a few vaccinated people here are asymptomatic positives. With the prevalence of asymptomatic positives, especially in younger people, there is little doubt if the Kerry, Dublin and Mayo squads were all tested some positives would be disclosed.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 431 - 14/08/2021 16:30:48    2370809

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Replying To M Lyster:  "Are the Tyrone players actually ill or are they asymptomatic 'positive cases' as a result of a PCR test?"
It doesn't matter. Can you imagine if they played and half the Kerry panel caught the virus. They're would be war and rightly so.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4093 - 14/08/2021 16:35:57    2370811

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Replying To Knoxboya:  "I see the logic, but it still isn't right.

COVID presents exceptional circumstances, so Tyrone should be given time to have a full panel available. Anything else means the integrity of the All Ireland series is fundamentally compromised."
I agree. Its totally inappropriate to talk about Monaghan taking Tyrone's place without their recommendation, thus providing the GAA with an out. Tyrone are representing Uster and should be given latitude to do so considering the times that's in it. Bit of respect wouldn't go a miss here

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 969 - 14/08/2021 16:36:13    2370812

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G AH Ah need to meet Tyrone CB and reschedule the semi in September. It's a no brainer.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1145 - 14/08/2021 16:36:25    2370813

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "The GAA know the numbers, that's all that matters.

It's already public knowledge that "50 percent of the Tyrone squad have contracted Covid-19"."
If the GAA know the numbers then they obviously believe it's feasible to field a team next weekend.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1765 - 14/08/2021 16:40:37    2370819

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Replying To Ronan1989:  "No sympathy for Tyrone, they obviously were not following COVID guidelines. There not be another delay.

Kerry likely would have win the match anyway."
You obviously know nothing about how easily covid spreads particularly the Delta variant which Tyrone has. Its rife up across the border here also and in your own county. All it takes is one person who unknowingly is a carrier without symptoms to spread it.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 869 - 14/08/2021 16:44:25    2370821

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "Let Monaghan take their place"
No.

Why ?

Tyrone beat them.

Either Tyrone fulfil the game (and its important to remember it is only a game, player welfare is far more important) or Lerry go through to the final. None of this nonsense of reinstating a team who have lost.

Ultimately, there are no winners. Kerry and Tyrone as it stands both suffer regardless of what happens now should the fixture not be fulfilled .

Wishing the Tyrone team and management well though and I hope they all have a swift recovery.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13617 - 14/08/2021 16:47:49    2370822

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