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When covid is over ,they should make the breaks 2 mins and allow coaching ect.. maybe make it 18min or 20 min quarters.. I think Limerick will probably put in a motion to keep them

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 11/08/2021 20:13:00    2369957

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I don't think sweat or dehydration were problems on the day!!!"
What makes you think that you cannot get dehydrated when doing physical sport or work while out in the rain,how do you think the body gets hydrated?....from the rain is it?

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 11/08/2021 20:15:06    2369959

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Replying To bloodyban:  "When covid is over ,they should make the breaks 2 mins and allow coaching ect.. maybe make it 18min or 20 min quarters.. I think Limerick will probably put in a motion to keep them"
Would lean towards getting rid of the WB's so long as the Maor Foirne were allowed back on the pitch, but asking the players would be a good idea. They're usually the last people with a say in the sometimes seemingly arbitrary changes that are made. For the record, though, John Kiely has stated strongly that he wants the WB's gone.

Camándubh (Limerick) - Posts: 3 - 11/08/2021 20:51:23    2369968

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Theyre not purely revenue driven. been in place for all games for long time now even those non tv games which means it isnt revenue driven."
I'm a big fan of the NFL but to suggest there isn't a huge financial benefit to breaks in play is ridiculous. There also isn't such a thing as non TV games as games that aren't nationally televised are still shown on a local level and on NFL game pass, so plenty of room for advertisement. Even the commentators during games will come out with a line like "this game is brought to you by" - *insert company name here*.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1656 - 12/08/2021 08:19:59    2370016

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "What makes you think that you cannot get dehydrated when doing physical sport or work while out in the rain,how do you think the body gets hydrated?....from the rain is it?"
I didn't say you can't get dehydrated but unless it is a very hot day I do not think a GAA player needs a water break after 15 minutes.
I can honestly tell you that me and my team mates have all the same opinion here. If anything the one in the second half is a maybe, but I have yet to meet a player above junior B level who is dehydrated after 15 minutes.
If a player needs water, there is more than enough natural breaks in play to run over and get some. We don't need to stop the game for it.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1736 - 12/08/2021 12:03:25    2370093

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Its kind of gone beyond the water break now. I'm not certain weather players 'need' the break but they appreciate it. Its weather we are going to keep the 4 quarters. The likes of Tipp, Cork, Limerick, Dublin ,Mayo ,Kerry ect do better with quarters than the more amature counties. 10 years from now we ll look back on this and say 'wow, how was the game only 2 halves back in the day'.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 12/08/2021 12:59:00    2370119

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I didn't say you can't get dehydrated but unless it is a very hot day I do not think a GAA player needs a water break after 15 minutes.
I can honestly tell you that me and my team mates have all the same opinion here. If anything the one in the second half is a maybe, but I have yet to meet a player above junior B level who is dehydrated after 15 minutes.
If a player needs water, there is more than enough natural breaks in play to run over and get some. We don't need to stop the game for it."
Would you be in favour of 4 x 20 min quarters with a 5 min time and if not , why not ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 12/08/2021 13:35:09    2370139

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Replying To PK57:  "I'm a big fan of the NFL but to suggest there isn't a huge financial benefit to breaks in play is ridiculous. There also isn't such a thing as non TV games as games that aren't nationally televised are still shown on a local level and on NFL game pass, so plenty of room for advertisement. Even the commentators during games will come out with a line like "this game is brought to you by" - *insert company name here*."
The game is sponsored. That happens here as well. the commentators dont say it in same way but the reasoning behind it is exact same

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3512 - 12/08/2021 13:58:18    2370152

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Would you be in favour of 4 x 20 min quarters with a 5 min time and if not , why not ?"
No I think half time is a vital part of any match and I think getting the team in to the dressing room is a vital component. Otherwise, some managers would be doing a Phil Brown on it out on the pitch.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1736 - 12/08/2021 14:14:19    2370163

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "No I think half time is a vital part of any match and I think getting the team in to the dressing room is a vital component. Otherwise, some managers would be doing a Phil Brown on it out on the pitch."
Of course have half time as normal, I'm talking about a 5 min time out between Q1 and Q2 and between Q3 and Q4.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 12/08/2021 14:21:41    2370167

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Would you be in favour of 4 x 20 min quarters with a 5 min time and if not , why not ?"
Because it will disrupt the ebb and flow of the game. Sometimes, often even, a game takes a while to get going. Especially after the start but also after a long injury break. It takes a few minutes for the game to get back up to speed. If the playing time is reduced to 20 minute segments you are going to have less of the good quality, exciting, high intensity play.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12034 - 12/08/2021 14:42:45    2370181

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Replying To Viking66:  "Because it will disrupt the ebb and flow of the game. Sometimes, often even, a game takes a while to get going. Especially after the start but also after a long injury break. It takes a few minutes for the game to get back up to speed. If the playing time is reduced to 20 minute segments you are going to have less of the good quality, exciting, high intensity play."
The game is already stop start, you would be lucky to get 20 minutes of actual ball in play in a half already, in football anyways.

I think the introduction of 4 quarters would need to coincide with the introduction of the stop clock as well.

Would the majority of GAA players be fit enough for a 4 x 20 min quarter game with a stop clock though, I'd have my doubts if they would.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 12/08/2021 15:11:35    2370190

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "The game is already stop start, you would be lucky to get 20 minutes of actual ball in play in a half already, in football anyways.

I think the introduction of 4 quarters would need to coincide with the introduction of the stop clock as well.

Would the majority of GAA players be fit enough for a 4 x 20 min quarter game with a stop clock though, I'd have my doubts if they would."
Probably would need to be full time professional to have that fitness.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12034 - 12/08/2021 15:28:43    2370197

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "The game is already stop start, you would be lucky to get 20 minutes of actual ball in play in a half already, in football anyways.

I think the introduction of 4 quarters would need to coincide with the introduction of the stop clock as well.

Would the majority of GAA players be fit enough for a 4 x 20 min quarter game with a stop clock though, I'd have my doubts if they would."
Yes in reply to your fitness question.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 12/08/2021 16:50:18    2370233

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Yes in reply to your fitness question."
In football it would mean playing about double of what they are playing now though so I'm not sure they would be fit for that, 80 minutes of actual ball in play as opposed to about 40 at the moment.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 12/08/2021 17:01:51    2370234

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "In football it would mean playing about double of what they are playing now though so I'm not sure they would be fit for that, 80 minutes of actual ball in play as opposed to about 40 at the moment."
Intercounty GAA players are very fit,maybe even fitter than Premiership players.
Paul Merson, when asked on British TV many years ago who was the fittest player he ever came across,his reply was "a lad over from Ireland on trial who had been playing GAA".....his name Graham Geraghty!

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 12/08/2021 21:42:26    2370276

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Intercounty GAA players are very fit,maybe even fitter than Premiership players.
Paul Merson, when asked on British TV many years ago who was the fittest player he ever came across,his reply was "a lad over from Ireland on trial who had been playing GAA".....his name Graham Geraghty!"
Theyre not fitter than premiership players. no way at all.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3512 - 13/08/2021 00:44:22    2370333

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Intercounty GAA players are very fit,maybe even fitter than Premiership players.
Paul Merson, when asked on British TV many years ago who was the fittest player he ever came across,his reply was "a lad over from Ireland on trial who had been playing GAA".....his name Graham Geraghty!"
To be fair to Merson , his local bar man was probably fitter than himself and he was judging Geraghty's fitness based on two trial games where he would have been giving it his all.

Different story over a full season.

We already see many GAA players tiring in the last quarter so I don't think it's possible that they could play double the amount of minutes that they are playing now, some might but in general no and it would lead to a lot of injuries as well.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 13/08/2021 10:33:52    2370379

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Theyre not fitter than premiership players. no way at all."
Ya it's nonsense. Everyone talking about how Waterford were screwed playing 4 weeks in a row well if they are fitter than English Premier League players then they should be able to play 8 games in 4 weeks like them lads do

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 13/08/2021 11:11:03    2370393

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Intercounty GAA players are very fit,maybe even fitter than Premiership players.
Paul Merson, when asked on British TV many years ago who was the fittest player he ever came across,his reply was "a lad over from Ireland on trial who had been playing GAA".....his name Graham Geraghty!"
Kevin Moran said that the Man Utd training wasn't much tougher than Dublin training, though that was long before S&C is as developed as today. John Egan was asked this week, on the Lovely Hurling podcast, about the difference between professional soccer and GAA. Their full time professionalism gives them way more recovery and relaxation time compared to most GAA players who are working and/or studying. I remember hearing one time that Damien Duff and Mark Hughes were mighty sleepers! I thought that was funny at the time but sleep is great for the body and the mind. Harder to be effective when you're tired and cranky.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 13/08/2021 11:24:38    2370396

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