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Camogie And Womens Football

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Often wondered why there is little or no referees, linespeople or umpires for camogie and womens football. Both organisations claim that their sport has grown rapidly over the years. Yet it's almost 100% males that officiate at any of the games that i have watched. Surely there are females out there that could get involved. It just looks so lopsided to see 30 women on the pitch and 7 men officiating. Its about time that those sports caught up with the 21st century. Or maybe they are happy enough to let the men continue to dominate.

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 615 - 08/08/2021 08:39:35    2368716

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Often wondered why there is little or no referees, linespeople or umpires for camogie and womens football. Both organisations claim that their sport has grown rapidly over the years. Yet it's almost 100% males that officiate at any of the games that i have watched. Surely there are females out there that could get involved. It just looks so lopsided to see 30 women on the pitch and 7 men officiating. Its about time that those sports caught up with the 21st century. Or maybe they are happy enough to let the men continue to dominate."
Well what are the numbers like, in terms of female officials?
How many are there actively referring?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 949 - 08/08/2021 09:39:38    2368736

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Well what are the numbers like, in terms of female officials?
How many are there actively referring?"
I don't know what the numbers are regarding female officials in those organisations. That's why i asked the question. Maybe someone out there could enlighten us.

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 615 - 08/08/2021 18:34:19    2368894

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "I don't know what the numbers are regarding female officials in those organisations. That's why i asked the question. Maybe someone out there could enlighten us."
I had assumed you'd know what the figures are seeing as how you're so invested in the subject.
I'm not sure what the process is with regard to selecting officials, whether or not they need to be qualified, but would you be in favour of fast tracking women into officiating roles for big games in order to catch up with the 21st century?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 949 - 08/08/2021 21:24:02    2368947

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I had assumed you'd know what the figures are seeing as how you're so invested in the subject.
I'm not sure what the process is with regard to selecting officials, whether or not they need to be qualified, but would you be in favour of fast tracking women into officiating roles for big games in order to catch up with the 21st century?"
Fast tracking, not at all. A gradual input would surely be the way to go It's something that they should have been working on over the years. Quite frankly I'm amazed that in these days of equality that they are not proactive in this regard. Maybe it's a case of not been able to find anyone up to the required standard. Or perhaps they just can't be bothered.

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 615 - 09/08/2021 08:08:29    2369006

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Often wondered why there is little or no referees, linespeople or umpires for camogie and womens football. Both organisations claim that their sport has grown rapidly over the years. Yet it's almost 100% males that officiate at any of the games that i have watched. Surely there are females out there that could get involved. It just looks so lopsided to see 30 women on the pitch and 7 men officiating. Its about time that those sports caught up with the 21st century. Or maybe they are happy enough to let the men continue to dominate."
One of the issues with the ladies games is the lack of support they get from other women.

Like you've said most refs etc are men and until recently most of the managers were as well.

I don't know what the story is with lack of females in these positions but like anything they can't just appoint them for a sake of it.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 705 - 09/08/2021 09:49:41    2369018

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It would probably greatly increase the level of respect for the officials.
Any player or manager who was to give out to a female official would probably be dragged over hot coals in the following mornings newspapers.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 949 - 09/08/2021 13:56:43    2369111

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Replying To oneoff:  "One of the issues with the ladies games is the lack of support they get from other women.

Like you've said most refs etc are men and until recently most of the managers were as well.

I don't know what the story is with lack of females in these positions but like anything they can't just appoint them for a sake of it."
Correct onefor uk. It's hard to understand why women won't get involved. Both the camogie and ladies football governing bodies should use their energies to train females in the rules of their respective games. Come on girls get your whistles out and show the men that you can do it as well as they can.

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 615 - 09/08/2021 14:07:47    2369118

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I think the pundits could find themselves in a tricky situation too. Part of an analysts job is to sometimes discuss the refereeing, and often times the verdict is very unflattering (usually rightfully), while outside of the Croke park corridors officials are fair game , with spectators, pundits, the media queuing up to have a pop (again, usually rightfully), if however a male pundit were to heavily criticise a female official he'd leave himself open to accusations of misogyny, bigotry (and probably a few other things thrown in for good measure).

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 949 - 09/08/2021 15:29:24    2369157

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