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Kerry Vs Tyrone

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "It's still not a good enough excuse for you to be going around stalking myself and the Hermit though.

I think you should wear sackcloth and ashes for a week at least.

It's something that is consuming you and others, maybe it makes you feel better thinking only one person could possibly call the Dubs out, but it shows how thin skinned you all are beneath the wafer thin veneer.

Even the team reflected that against Mayo, once the fake veneer was scratched they couldn't handle it and the dirt came out.

I don't understand you when you say you were never in such bad form at half - time and considered walking out.

There's nothing wrong with keeping the scoreboard ticking over when you are six points up and in total control.

You would have taken that position before the game started.

I'd say the Dublin team were disappointed to see so many of their "fans" heading for the exit even before the fulltime whistle was blown, six in a row and not even courteous enough to cheer them off the pitch and you were nearly one of those who abandoned them also."
Give the man a break African. He was only trying to prove a point and he apologised. I also go into other county forums. It can be interesting. Where are you from AG.?You say you put manners on Philly Mac. Was that in a club game? Did you play club football invDublin or Leinster? Now you say you never saw the sky over Kerry but you do seem to have time for Kerry. You also seem to have time for Mayo Down and Derry but you seem to have a serious dislike for Dublin and Donegal? Some of your posts can be very interesting but many can be disrespectful putting it lightly.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 21/08/2021 18:59:26    2373658

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Give the man a break African. He was only trying to prove a point and he apologised. I also go into other county forums. It can be interesting. Where are you from AG.?You say you put manners on Philly Mac. Was that in a club game? Did you play club football invDublin or Leinster? Now you say you never saw the sky over Kerry but you do seem to have time for Kerry. You also seem to have time for Mayo Down and Derry but you seem to have a serious dislike for Dublin and Donegal? Some of your posts can be very interesting but many can be disrespectful putting it lightly."
It's a pity he didn't think to apologize to myself and the Hermit seen that his post was about us.

Then the matter would have been at an end.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 21/08/2021 19:41:14    2373674

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "It's a pity he didn't think to apologize to myself and the Hermit seen that his post was about us.

Then the matter would have been at an end."
Any answers to my questions?

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 21/08/2021 19:53:52    2373676

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Give the man a break African. He was only trying to prove a point and he apologised. I also go into other county forums. It can be interesting. Where are you from AG.?You say you put manners on Philly Mac. Was that in a club game? Did you play club football invDublin or Leinster? Now you say you never saw the sky over Kerry but you do seem to have time for Kerry. You also seem to have time for Mayo Down and Derry but you seem to have a serious dislike for Dublin and Donegal? Some of your posts can be very interesting but many can be disrespectful putting it lightly."
He put manners on Philly on his dreams Mick.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 21/08/2021 21:11:56    2373700

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Well I can gaurentee you we're not writing off Tyrone Ulsterman, we're still having nightmares of bearded men dressed in red and white and I don't mean santa clause.

If PK hasn't the team ready for every thing including the kitchen sink to be thrown at us next week then he's not a good manager.

Did you read Tomás O'Sé in the examiner today? I couldn't as it was behind a pay wall of some sort."
That was a long time ago now though. It's a fair few years since Tyrone beat Kerry in a championship match. There is no real rivalry, just the memory of a rivalry. I accept that Kerry may not put 6 goals past us this time, but this Kerry team are on form, and they are a few points better than Tyrone, even without the covid. With the Covid disruption and absentees etc, all Kerry has to worry about is complacency.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 21/08/2021 21:34:08    2373718

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Replying To essmac:  "That was a long time ago now though. It's a fair few years since Tyrone beat Kerry in a championship match. There is no real rivalry, just the memory of a rivalry. I accept that Kerry may not put 6 goals past us this time, but this Kerry team are on form, and they are a few points better than Tyrone, even without the covid. With the Covid disruption and absentees etc, all Kerry has to worry about is complacency."
I hope you're right essmac, after watching yer minors take apart Cork today and it brought back some bad memories,

We are the in form team but Tyrone have played the harder games to ger to the semifinal but next Sat will tell us I suppose, I still feel we have problems up the centre of our defence, will we be able to score enough to cover that deficiency time will tell, will Tyrone be fully recovered and match sharp only god knows.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/08/2021 22:57:30    2373745

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Replying To Wally:  "You just love to back both horses dont you Ulsterman!

The amount of contradictory posts you have written about this match and about Tyrone in general beggars belief.

Even on this same thread you had written Tyrone off.

Would it he so bad to be wrong? I mean it is a bit pathetic that you have to be in a position after this match to stick it into one of these two teams.

Why not nail your colours to the mast and call it."
I would love to see Tyrone win this match but I believe they have to get quicker bell into the front 6 to achieve it. I think they can be too ponderous on the ball, lose possession at times and be turned over too easy. I don't like their over emphasis on forward, backwards hand passing in defence and around the middle of the park, it achieves nothing. Tyrone have to score more than a Kerry side that contains so many attacking options. Tyrone don't have the same depth they did 15 years ago that could grind Kerry down. For this reason I think Kerry will win by 6pts+. As for sticking the boot into Tyrone no I just give an honest opinion.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 22/08/2021 00:41:19    2373762

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Give the man a break African. He was only trying to prove a point and he apologised. I also go into other county forums. It can be interesting. Where are you from AG.?You say you put manners on Philly Mac. Was that in a club game? Did you play club football invDublin or Leinster? Now you say you never saw the sky over Kerry but you do seem to have time for Kerry. You also seem to have time for Mayo Down and Derry but you seem to have a serious dislike for Dublin and Donegal? Some of your posts can be very interesting but many can be disrespectful putting it lightly."
CiarraiMick (Dublin) Give the man a break African. He was only trying to prove a point and he apologised. I also go into other county forums. It can be interesting. Where are you from AG.?You say you put manners on Philly Mac. Was that in a club game? Did you play club football invDublin or Leinster? Now you say you never saw the sky over Kerry but you do seem to have time for Kerry. You also seem to have time for Mayo Down and Derry but you seem to have a serious dislike for Dublin and Donegal? Some of your posts can be very interesting but many can be disrespectful putting it lightly.


You are so correct CiarraiMick (Dublin) every poster here no matter where the poster is from has a connection however small with a county on this Island of ours and for the life of me I simply can't understand why they don't acknowledge that in their Log in details, for example if I live in the USA and I was born in Kilkenny then in my log in should read supersub15 / USA - Kilkenny, as it is anyone can sign up and claim the USA, UK, or Australia and others but that may or may not be the case.


There are apparent genuine posters here who get snubbed because their log in details of origin doesn't reach those of some poster connected to say, USA, UK, Australia, etc. I hate to say it but there is a touch of snobbery attached, however, at the end of the day, the show goes on, and on. Etc.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 22/08/2021 23:14:07    2374017

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Replying To avonali:  "He put manners on Philly on his dreams Mick."
Did Philly ever play out in NY??

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 23/08/2021 20:43:08    2374234

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Now that I have no vested interest in the championship, as a gaelic football fan I am really looking forward to the other semi and of course, the final.
It's an awful shame that Tyrone have been decimated and it would have been an interesting game
Kerry won't, and should not be beaten but for the final Mayo are going to need all they gave v Dublin and more!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 23/08/2021 23:04:22    2374270

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This game for me all about whether tyrone can handle the Kerry attack. Impressed by tyrone defence against us and donegal but this is a big step up for them as kerry have so many options. However if tyrone can stifle them a bit knock them out of their stride and get likes of mckenna donnelly mcshane if fit and mccurry motoring at a suspect kerry rearguard then they have a chance.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1803 - 24/08/2021 08:37:50    2374291

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This game is poised for the mother of all ambushes from Tyrone.
Its set up lovely for them with everyone discussing potential matchups and outcomes in a Mayo Kerry final

HuddHastings (Longford) - Posts: 144 - 24/08/2021 08:51:01    2374292

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I hope you're right essmac, after watching yer minors take apart Cork today and it brought back some bad memories,

We are the in form team but Tyrone have played the harder games to ger to the semifinal but next Sat will tell us I suppose, I still feel we have problems up the centre of our defence, will we be able to score enough to cover that deficiency time will tell, will Tyrone be fully recovered and match sharp only god knows."
I suppose I'm basing my pessimism on how both counties would match up if both had a full pick and at full fitness etc. Even in that parallel universe, Kerry probably will finish a few points in front. Tyrone would always have a chance in that scenario, but we'd need a lot of things to go right at the same time as we'd need a lot of things to go wrong for ye. Then, add covid to the mix, and I just don't see it. I had covid, and I know how it can weaken you long after you've "recovered". As you might expect, the covid hasn't done the decent thing and only went for the fringe players, it's taken out a couple of key men, who simply will not be firing on all cylinders, and it's inconceivable how being below par in some key areas on the pitch is ever going to work against this Kerry team in particular. The upside is I'm not worried about the game - you only worry if you have hope! I'm much more worried about the minors v Meath, who reportedly are very good; they apparently disposed of Dublin handy enough, so that'll be a battle and a half.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 24/08/2021 08:56:29    2374293

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Replying To essmac:  "I suppose I'm basing my pessimism on how both counties would match up if both had a full pick and at full fitness etc. Even in that parallel universe, Kerry probably will finish a few points in front. Tyrone would always have a chance in that scenario, but we'd need a lot of things to go right at the same time as we'd need a lot of things to go wrong for ye. Then, add covid to the mix, and I just don't see it. I had covid, and I know how it can weaken you long after you've "recovered". As you might expect, the covid hasn't done the decent thing and only went for the fringe players, it's taken out a couple of key men, who simply will not be firing on all cylinders, and it's inconceivable how being below par in some key areas on the pitch is ever going to work against this Kerry team in particular. The upside is I'm not worried about the game - you only worry if you have hope! I'm much more worried about the minors v Meath, who reportedly are very good; they apparently disposed of Dublin handy enough, so that'll be a battle and a half."
I was just reading an article where Fergal Logan said everyone was back training for Tyrone with the last few days essmac, now he did really say what shape yer players were in but he's a full squad to choose from.

As hudhastings says above this could be the mother and father of all ambushes on Saturday, we don't really know where Kerry stand from a sharpness point of view after 5 weeks of a lay off and it could well take 15-20 mins for the lads to get to the pace of the game and if Tyrone get a good start and with yer defence I wouldn't like to be chasing the game going into the second half.

I'd say yer minors will be well prepared, they looked excellent the other day but minors can be a hard to judge.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/08/2021 10:18:03    2374311

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Replying To avonali:  "He put manners on Philly on his dreams Mick."
That must be where they play 80 minute matches too. I'm still on the lookout for an 80 minute match ever since AG told me I was a bit slow for not realising this was the length of senior county matches. Marking Philly out of it for 80 minutes is impressive. Philly must've been too embarrassed to put it in his book.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 24/08/2021 11:11:53    2374321

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Any answers to my questions?"
Apart from typical Irish nosiness , have you any legitimate reason for asking me intrusive questions Mick ?

And if so, can you clearly spell out what the legitimate reason is.

According to all of your online friends from the Northside I'm the Hermit, and up in the top 3 of most popular posters of all time on HS.

Are you now saying you don't trust your online friends judgment ?

Anyway, spell out your legitimate reason.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 24/08/2021 12:12:27    2374342

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Apart from typical Irish nosiness , have you any legitimate reason for asking me intrusive questions Mick ?

And if so, can you clearly spell out what the legitimate reason is.

According to all of your online friends from the Northside I'm the Hermit, and up in the top 3 of most popular posters of all time on HS.

Are you now saying you don't trust your online friends judgment ?

Anyway, spell out your legitimate reason."
I would like to know what county you ré from so I can put your views into better context. I know some posters probably pretend to be from other counties but that to me is silly. I have no doubt you are Not the hermit but why the secrecy? Have you not accused some posters of having other accounts? You have made a few bold statements too and did nt elaborate when questioned.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 24/08/2021 12:52:50    2374351

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Apart from typical Irish nosiness , have you any legitimate reason for asking me intrusive questions Mick ?

And if so, can you clearly spell out what the legitimate reason is.

According to all of your online friends from the Northside I'm the Hermit, and up in the top 3 of most popular posters of all time on HS.

Are you now saying you don't trust your online friends judgment ?

Anyway, spell out your legitimate reason."
"Apart from typical Irish nosiness , have you any legitimate reason for asking me intrusive questions Mick ?

I doubt Hermit/AG even sees the irony here.


People who spout generalized negative comments about Irish people have NO place in Hoganstand.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 24/08/2021 13:07:39    2374352

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Replying To avonali:  ""Apart from typical Irish nosiness , have you any legitimate reason for asking me intrusive questions Mick ?

I doubt Hermit/AG even sees the irony here.


People who spout generalized negative comments about Irish people have NO place in Hoganstand."
UK after his or her name (more likely her) says a lot. More Irish in Michael Flatleys wolfhound.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 24/08/2021 13:23:52    2374356

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I would like to know what county you ré from so I can put your views into better context. I know some posters probably pretend to be from other counties but that to me is silly. I have no doubt you are Not the hermit but why the secrecy? Have you not accused some posters of having other accounts? You have made a few bold statements too and did nt elaborate when questioned."
That's not a legitimate reason Mick, because I don't pretend to be from any county, so it's not applicable to me at all.

I think you are wrong to use someone's county to put context on their views because you try and turn legitimate views into something personal which completely takes away from the posters point to begin with.

If someone from Cork has an strongly held opinion about something relating to Kerry for example then it's easy to reply and say "sure you're from Cork" of course you'll say that.

The same could be said for many counties.

So that does nothing for any debate.

I couldn't care less how many accounts people have or I couldn't care less what people think of my opinions or factual content either.

There are too many posters here who are too afraid to critically analyze anything, they are more interested in collecting thumbs up, house angels they are known as.

Clearly the Hermit is hated by the Dubs because they are totally consumed by him, he's a poster with 10,960 likes, obviously many people agree with his views.

It's an anonymous forum like many others Mick so secrecy is part and parcel of forums like this, that's why they are called anonymous.

But if you want to tell everyone who you are and what you had for your breakfast then use Facebook or some other platform like that.

Not for me Mick.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 24/08/2021 13:57:01    2374363

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