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Dubs V Mayo

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Replying To icehonesty:  "The lack of discipline is embarrassing for Dublin. They could have had 4 red cards, and several more black cards than they did get. Sadly they've tarnished their reputation. You don't do those things by accident, that's true colours showing through."
Would of been a travesty if Mayo didn't get through.....The Dubs if truth be told got away with murder,I'd have to watch it all again to correctly count the amount of red/black cards they got away with,der was that many of them.....

Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 199 - 14/08/2021 22:41:25    2371212

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Replying To wexico15:  "Have they been great champions? Didn't bow out with grace today and arguably done football alot of harm since 2015 with over prescriptive style of play?"
Yes I think so, on and off the field, the likes of the Brogan's, Dean Rock, Kevin McManamon and Stephen Cluxton are great players and ambassadors of the game of Gaelic football, I know Philly McMahon can be a bit of a scamp but has done good work with kids in Ballymun. Brian Fenton' s high fielding is a joy to watch he reminds me of a salmon leaping up from the river catching flies. Jack McCaffrey another fantastic footballer to watch and has got involved in charity work in Africa. Also I thought themselves (and Tipperary) gave very dignified tributes to the bloody sunday centenary memorial in Croke Park last winter.

I don't think their tactics has harmed gealic football their success has made the Leinster championship null and void a such and the 6 in a row while is a great achievement, no-one wants to see the all-Ireland championship dominated by 1 county (unless you are from that county of course), that is what is bad for gealic football but that's not their fault.

As for today's match the only issue I would have with them was James McCarthy's elbow at the end of normal time, I don't think john small's hit on eoghan McLaughlin was intentional to hurt him. Both teams put in the hard hits and there was high challenges from both teams. They gave it everything, both didn't want to lose and served up a great game of football. Dublin didn't give up and fought to end and shaked hands and congratulated Mayo at the end, so yes they were great champions.

Also I want to wish Eoghan McLaughlin well, I hope he is not too injuried and hopefully he will be fit for the final.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 14/08/2021 22:43:30    2371214

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Spare a thought for the poor Croke Park cleaners who'll have to clean the dressing rooms themselves this year.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 14/08/2021 22:43:51    2371215

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Replying To HighStoolBandit:  "I wonder will the GAA bring in any rules to combat that dirty shower? I am away for a gin with that bitter."
Do, that's all you have.

Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 14/08/2021 22:47:51    2371218

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A huge congrats to Mayo. I genuinely thought they had a great chance today. Some of the key factors Dublin had in their favour in past years were no longer there. One of the main ones being the bench. The lads they brought in today, were a big step down on what they used to have.
More importantly though, Mayo have brought through some top quality young players. They have all the energy, courage, commitment and ability needed to compete at the top level.
Mayo have given countless performances over the last 10 years that any supporter would have to admire. They leave it all out on the pitch, win, lose or draw. They're an example to us and have been for a decade.
Taking off O'Shea was a big help to them. I've said it before, but he holds Mayo back in Croke Park. He slows things down and is always looking for contact. He also has a poor scoring record in Croke Park in recent years. They move the ball much faster without him and the sharp forwards have a chance to flourish.
I really hope they finish the job. If they do, the only pity in my view is that the likes of Higgins, Clarke and Barrett are no longer on the panel and won't get their medal. Still I'm sure they'll happily live with that, if Mayo can get over the line in the final.
Go n-éirí leo!

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2369 - 14/08/2021 22:49:37    2371219

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Jesus am I one of the only people outside Dublin who didnt mind seeing them win..I think they played super football up to last year..it all fell completely asunder this evening,the lack of discipline was alarming..I would question management in this..the breaking of the training ban don't think it would have happened under Gavin..the cluxton affair was left simmer,is he gone or not?then there was the case of players walking away ..everyone will say the dubs will be back,today won't do any favors and a lot of players may now step away..also a question how did aos get involved with philly when he wasn't on field of play??do croke park look at this or say ah it's all right match is over..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2537 - 14/08/2021 22:54:30    2371229

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Cillian O'Connor isn't in the same class as McCaffrey or Mannion, he's a tap over merchant, Mayo are better off without him same as big Aidan O'Shea, them young boys Mayo have are far better players."
Yes Cillian O Connor the greatest and most prolific scorer in championship history is a tap over merchant. He has single handledly pushed the dubs close, without much other forward support.
Show some respect for a fantastic player. On his day there is no one more clinical. Mannion not as consistent or prolific, but a great player. McCaffrey is a wing back……Jesus.

wackojacko (Longford) - Posts: 25 - 14/08/2021 22:56:40    2371232

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Cillian O'Connor isn't in the same class as McCaffrey or Mannion, he's a tap over merchant, Mayo are better off without him same as big Aidan O'Shea, them young boys Mayo have are far better players."
Cillian O Conmor is one of the top forwards in the game and has been for a good few years, the stats don't tell lies.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 400 - 14/08/2021 22:59:51    2371233

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Replying To whitenred:  "Dublin were mighty champions, credit to Mayo and congratulations. Mayo's young new guys really stood up to the mark when the pressure was on, fantastic team display.
I always thought Cluxton was a little bit overrated (just a little bit), but his level head and distribution was sorely missed by Dublin today. Is Comerford the best that Dublin has at their disposal?"
More than a little bit. .

It wasn't Comerford who caused the Dublin forwards to kick 14 points in 90mins or gift turnover after turnover to the Mayo backs.

Dublin still had more possession. Its the cutting edge up front that's deserted them. Can see now why Costello has never been fully trusted.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5263 - 14/08/2021 23:14:53    2371240

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Cillian O'Connor isn't in the same class as McCaffrey or Mannion, he's a tap over merchant, Mayo are better off without him same as big Aidan O'Shea, them young boys Mayo have are far better players."
I would have a fit Cillian on that first 15 any day. His work rate is excellent and will get you a goal.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8770 - 14/08/2021 23:15:24    2371241

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Cillian O'Connor isn't in the same class as McCaffrey or Mannion, he's a tap over merchant, Mayo are better off without him same as big Aidan O'Shea, them young boys Mayo have are far better players."
Absolute nonsense and sad that people still believe this nonsense. I don't know what the man has to do to prove his worth.

Big games over the last 10 years:

Scoreless:
Donegal 2012
Dublin 2013
Dublin 2015 drawn game
Dublin 2016 replay
Kerry 2017 replay

1 from play 2011 Cork
3 (1 goal) from play 2011 Kerry
1 from play 2012 Dublin
10 (3-1) from play 2013 Donegal
3 from play Kerry 2014
5 (1-2) from play Kerry 2014 replay
4 (1-1) from play Dublin 2015 replay
3 from play Tyrone 2016
2 from play Dublin 2016
3 from play Kerry 2017
3 from play Dublin 2017
2 from play Kerry 2019
3 (1 goal) from play Donegal 2019
1 from play Dublin 2019
4 from play Dublin 2020

There's an honest summary of his scoring in big games.

Now add in the fact that he's one of the best free kick takers and you've got an excellent player who clearly performs in big games, including closing moments of finals.

He has a higher average quarter finals onwards than he does in the Connacht championship. He scores more on average vs the Dubs than any other team.

jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 14/08/2021 23:15:30    2371242

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I've heard rumours of the Tyrone Covid players are after having Grandpa Joe like recoveries this evening and that they could be ready for 10am tomorrow?

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 261 - 14/08/2021 23:27:52    2371247

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "It is clear since Gavin has gone how disjointed the Dublin attack has become. They were spellbinding under Gavin. They are now highly functional under Farrell at tackling and suffocating teams, but lacking flair and fluidity up front."
Does anybody think that Jim Gavin knew when to get out?

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1111 - 14/08/2021 23:36:42    2371250

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Replying To rhudson:  "Where are the kerry boys must be in shock lol"
An All Ireland is an All Ireland and you beat who is front of you to win it. However there will be a little shock and possible frustration in Kerry after this result. They badly wanted to end this Dublin run and that opportunity is gone. I'm sure if they win Sam though that won't matter too much. It is all set up for a period of Kerry dominance now.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 14/08/2021 23:40:13    2371252

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Great evening for Mayo, could be said it was Mayo worst performance against Dublin but its the one that finally beat them.
Some great performances by Mayo lads, Hennelly 3 points, Keegan, O Hora, Durcan, O Donoghue really stood up. Conroy got going eventually. For once the Mayo subs made a big difference, thought Hession made huge impact brought more directness to the attacks and was involved in alot. Fair play to Horan for taking off O Shea, things didnt go right for him and his head was gone so had to come off.

Referee was terrible.

Great to be the team that finally beat the Dubs after all these years. They are not the team they were and they don't have the quality of subs they used to, but what a run they had and dont think there fans will have any complaints, only joy and respect for them.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 640 - 14/08/2021 23:46:15    2371255

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Fair play to Mayo and James Horan, will probably be outsiders for the final but hopefully you learned a lot about yourselves today. To me the biggest lesson to be learned from today is that no matter how many things appear to be going against you to keep going and keep going no matter what. On a note of caution try and keep the scoreboard ticking over. Even one point in the second period of extra time would have been so much easier on the heart, lots of hearts. Also trust James.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1111 - 14/08/2021 23:48:45    2371256

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Where's Mailman98 now?

Mac&Cheese (Mayo) - Posts: 9 - 14/08/2021 23:48:48    2371257

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Congratulations Mayo!

Best team won on the day, hope yee go on now and win it out right. Great scenes on the Hill, delighted for yee, enjoy the night, but keep her lit for the final, nothing won yet!

And so our era ends, but what wonderful champions we have, all things end!

We will get the wellies on over the winter and look to our own and youth, it's our way!

Be back in January and be there!

As always Up the Du6s!!"
Very sporting of you User and I'd expect nothing less. Dublin can hold their heads up high.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3961 - 14/08/2021 23:56:57    2371260

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I wouldn't say the Dubs were particularly dirty and I don't believe they are, but seriously refs have to ref the game as per the rules. Imagine a Mayo player ploughed in with that shoulder to the jaw, or hand trip or whatever, pick your choice. Referees need to look at this game and see why favorites don't deserve preferential treatment. Ref the game in fairness that's all players and fans ask at all levels.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 261 - 14/08/2021 23:57:20    2371261

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Well done to Mayo. The better team won , fantastic second half performance. I hope they go on and win the final. Even ballboy I hope you enjoyed that one!

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 14/08/2021 23:59:50    2371262

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