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Cork U20 Hurlers/Covid Case

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "What a moronic statement about the possible effects on young people."
There are no effects worth talking about, unless you want to change the story after this post to "preventing the spread of covid to the elderly or vulnerable" which is all well and good if they are unvaccinated. They are vaccinated btw.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3809 - 02/08/2021 09:52:16    2366746

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "What a moronic statement about the possible effects on young people."
That statement is backed up by the WHOs stats.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3318 - 02/08/2021 13:05:03    2366835

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Replying To Donegalman:  "There are no effects worth talking about, unless you want to change the story after this post to "preventing the spread of covid to the elderly or vulnerable" which is all well and good if they are unvaccinated. They are vaccinated btw."
Being vaccinated doesnt stop you from catching covid or passing it on. I know personally several people who have got and spread covid months after their second vaccine.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3318 - 02/08/2021 13:06:43    2366837

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There is no way I would want Galway to be awarded an All Ireland by default, On the other hand there are very serious implications if county teams are rewarded for breaking Covid rules (the only possible way that everyone could be a close contact).
An u20 All ireland is nice but running the club season is far more important for us all in the GAA. Every single club in Ireland has covid cases at the moment and if games can be postponed by naming everyone as a close contact then we are in for a shambles.
While it is tough on the u20's of both counties, this competition should be just scrapped now and ensure that there is at least some chance of running club championships/relegations etc etc etc.

onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 04/08/2021 14:02:11    2367565

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If was any other county walkover would stand. Congrats to Galway.

kerry4sam21 (Kerry) - Posts: 60 - 04/08/2021 21:47:44    2367778

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Replying To onlyhurling:  "There is no way I would want Galway to be awarded an All Ireland by default, On the other hand there are very serious implications if county teams are rewarded for breaking Covid rules (the only possible way that everyone could be a close contact).
An u20 All ireland is nice but running the club season is far more important for us all in the GAA. Every single club in Ireland has covid cases at the moment and if games can be postponed by naming everyone as a close contact then we are in for a shambles.
While it is tough on the u20's of both counties, this competition should be just scrapped now and ensure that there is at least some chance of running club championships/relegations etc etc etc."
No they shouldn't. If there is a possibility of completing the competitions then they should be completed. That is the least the players who have worked so hard to get to this point in the competitions deserve. The club competitions are an entirely separate issue. I can't understand why Dublin had to play a Leinster senior hurling final whilst they were short four first team players and Tyrone had to play an Ulster senior football final when they were short three first choice players yet Cork are granted a postponement for an U20 hurling final when they have one case of Covid in the camp. I'm not looking to cause a row but can someone come someone explain the why in all of this to me please. Thank you in anticipation.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5688 - 05/08/2021 01:04:09    2367817

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Replying To Greengrass:  "No they shouldn't. If there is a possibility of completing the competitions then they should be completed. That is the least the players who have worked so hard to get to this point in the competitions deserve. The club competitions are an entirely separate issue. I can't understand why Dublin had to play a Leinster senior hurling final whilst they were short four first team players and Tyrone had to play an Ulster senior football final when they were short three first choice players yet Cork are granted a postponement for an U20 hurling final when they have one case of Covid in the camp. I'm not looking to cause a row but can someone come someone explain the why in all of this to me please. Thank you in anticipation."
John Horan made it clear last year that the only games that would be rearranged if there was Covid issues in a camp were All-Ireland semi finals and finals, and postponements for other games would be considered if there was sufficient time in the calendar. You can agree or disagree with the approach but that was the arrangement.
I think the postponement here makes sense, and don't blame Cork for the situation they find themselves in, but I do think Galway should have been given home advantage for the refixed date. If nothing else it would lessen the chance of anyone taking advantage of a Covid situation to allow them get a postponement so injured players, or players ineligible but who may be available at a later date, can play in the refixture.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2623 - 05/08/2021 11:37:29    2367886

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Replying To Soma:  "John Horan made it clear last year that the only games that would be rearranged if there was Covid issues in a camp were All-Ireland semi finals and finals, and postponements for other games would be considered if there was sufficient time in the calendar. You can agree or disagree with the approach but that was the arrangement.
I think the postponement here makes sense, and don't blame Cork for the situation they find themselves in, but I do think Galway should have been given home advantage for the refixed date. If nothing else it would lessen the chance of anyone taking advantage of a Covid situation to allow them get a postponement so injured players, or players ineligible but who may be available at a later date, can play in the refixture."
Thanks for clearing that up for me Soma. Much appreciated. I would be inclined to agree with your suggestion in relation to a home venue for Galway.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5688 - 05/08/2021 12:16:42    2367897

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Replying To Soma:  "John Horan made it clear last year that the only games that would be rearranged if there was Covid issues in a camp were All-Ireland semi finals and finals, and postponements for other games would be considered if there was sufficient time in the calendar. You can agree or disagree with the approach but that was the arrangement.
I think the postponement here makes sense, and don't blame Cork for the situation they find themselves in, but I do think Galway should have been given home advantage for the refixed date. If nothing else it would lessen the chance of anyone taking advantage of a Covid situation to allow them get a postponement so injured players, or players ineligible but who may be available at a later date, can play in the refixture."
Yeah, I think that's a positive idea. I would have no problem playing Galway in Galway. As you say it may lessen the chance of teams pulling a fast one.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 20 - 05/08/2021 12:44:08    2367911

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "Yeah, I think that's a positive idea. I would have no problem playing Galway in Galway. As you say it may lessen the chance of teams pulling a fast one."
I can't understand why it's Semple Stadium at 7.30 pm! Semple Stadium is a 2 hour drive from Galway. The Gaelic Grounds would be easier to get to and about the same distance for both teams.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1099 - 05/08/2021 13:23:28    2367931

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Replying To baire:  "I can't understand why it's Semple Stadium at 7.30 pm! Semple Stadium is a 2 hour drive from Galway. The Gaelic Grounds would be easier to get to and about the same distance for both teams."
Fair point. I believe Galway should have home advantage or which ever neutral venue The Tribesmen wish to nominate.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 20 - 05/08/2021 14:44:32    2367953

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