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Connacht championship 2021 ? 2020 Mayo 2019 Roscommon 2018 Galway BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 19/07/2021 14:46:30 2361724 Link 4 |
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Well if you look at the GAA code split our pick interestingly is not as big as you think. Half the county largely only play hurling and part of the football heartland in the West of the county is not highly populated bar the Moycullen/Barna area. The City has never been a huge GAA territory as Cities go. We will keep on plugging away though. Back to topic. I enjoy Ulster football most of the time and in fairness the competitiveness of the province is an attraction itself. Should be a great provincial final this year. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 19/07/2021 15:21:25 2361746 Link 0 |
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yes but it is farsical. How did Mayo reach the Connacht final this year ?. by playing Sligo then Leitrim. I mean Mayo are a great team , dont get me wrong and they will most likely beat the ulster champs but to basically get a bye in to a provincial final is a joke. They can experiment with selections and formations and tailor their training to peak for late July. Ulster teams have never had that luxury. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 19/07/2021 15:44:48 2361761 Link 0 |
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But I think the opening post was about the competitiveness of the various provinces. Connacht is often times very competitive, 3 of the 5 teams are always in with a shout, Sligo rarely ever win it but can always spring a shock too. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 19/07/2021 16:16:07 2361782 Link 1 |
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That was the draw. Conceivably a county could reach an Ulster Final by beating Antrim and Fermanagh in easy games. We were in Division 2 this year and on Sunday we have to play the winner of a semi final between two Division 1 counties. Ulster football is great, for me the equivalent of the Munster Hurling championship. Winning the province is a massive deal. Hard hitting tough games, usually tight encounters. Would love some day to go to an Ulster championship game in Ulster. But ye have 4 more counties than Connacht. Most Ulster counties knocking around the top two divisions. Taking two Ulster counties and putting them into Connacht would make a better Connacht championship but be a huge kick in the teeth to Ulster. I think they need to separate provincial championships from the All Ireland. I'm not sold on the tiered championship idea, I think it'll widen the gap between top counties and so-called weaker counties. But they should give it a go because doing nothing fixes nothing. Hopefully they can have some sort of competition around provincial league time where so-called weaker counties can improve their standards by playing against college teanns, weaker counties, B teams from stronger counties etc. Otherwise the future of intercounty football in weaker counties looks bleak. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 19/07/2021 18:09:24 2361850 Link 7 |
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7 counties in Connacht. London reached the final in 13. So it's only 3 of the 7. You might not take London and NY seriously but they are still counties and part of the GAA.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 19/07/2021 18:16:41 2361852 Link 0 |
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They won't beat the Ulster champs unless they beat Galway and then Dublin or Kildare. Monaghan/ Tyrone would also have to beat Kerry/Cork to meet Mayo in the final. PearseBro (Monaghan) - Posts: 459 - 19/07/2021 18:51:35 2361871 Link 2 |
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True, London got to the final in 2013, that's one of the biggest provincial surprises of the last decade
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 19/07/2021 19:34:50 2361892 Link 0 |
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stranger things have happened. I actually believe that Mayo will connacht and beat Dublin. Although I love watching this Kerry team, I think the Ulster Champs will beat them . It is Mayo's year ….. at last s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/07/2021 08:09:23 2362006 Link 0 |
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You made a comment that it is farcical that Mayo got to an a provincial final beating only Sligo and Leitrim. I think that is a bit rich considering Donegal only had to beat yourselves to get to a semi. I am not slamming you, as I think all teams deserve respect and I think Cavan were fantastic last year. However you are division 4 just like Leitrim and Sligo, so should not be putting them down. With regard to Ulster champs beating Kerry, I will live in hope for a second miracle in two years and they won't be there. However, in the real world for all sane people outside of Cork, I would say it will be a good game, but cannot see Kerry losing that one, unless they really have an off day. That is only my opinion, up there to be proved wrong. Ultimately, I think whilst Ulster has been great to watch this year, it's probably more to do with Donegal and Tyrone falling back to the level of the chasing pack, rather than they improving massively. That being said, Monaghan have developed a real team of scoring forwards, whereas a couple of years ago would have relied heavily on McManus. This should be complimented. I hope the super attacking play continues across the rest of the country. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 20/07/2021 12:02:01 2362072 Link 0 |
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Some truth in Donegal slipping back a bit. Tyrone have stayed about the same, as have Monaghan and Cavan. Armagh and Derry certainly are improving though; best Derry attitude I've seen in years. Fermanagh has been hit hard with departures. Antrim are showing some signs, but v early days. Down is the major disappointment, look to be a couple of years development time away from being credible contenders even for an Ulster. I wish they'd get their act together, we all prefer Down to be good - and ideally a wee bit insufferable : )
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 20/07/2021 12:47:18 2362097 Link 1 |
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"You made a comment that it is farcical that Mayo got to an a provincial final beating only Sligo and Leitrim. I think that is a bit rich considering Donegal only had to beat yourselves to get to a semi. I am not slamming you, as I think all teams deserve respect and I think Cavan were fantastic last year. However you are division 4 just like Leitrim and Sligo, so should not be putting them down." just have a look at what you wrote and weep. there is so much wrong with it, I don't know where to start. Firstly you are comparing getting to a provincial final with getting to a provincial semi-final . secondly , Donegal didn't play Cavan this year. To get to the semi they played Down and Derry. Tyrone Played Cavan in the Qtr final and played Donegal in the seni ( so both vastly different than playing Sligo and Leitrim). s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/07/2021 12:50:06 2362099 Link 0 |
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The same team have won the last 10 finals in leinster. Last year Dublin won by 21 points, 16 the year before that, 18 before that 4 different sides have won Ulster in that time. The margin of victories in Ulster final have been typically much lower too. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 20/07/2021 13:34:23 2362126 Link 1 |
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how many of the Ulster treams would beat Dublin, Mayo, Kerry. or Galway.........none club51 (Mayo) - Posts: 395 - 20/07/2021 14:01:21 2362139 Link 3 |
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Sneaking Mayo and Galway in there like nobody would notice
patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 20/07/2021 17:44:20 2362214 Link 5 |
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I suppose predictions are precarious at the best of times and in these days of restrictions etc even more so. It's a bit rich I think to say no Ulster teams would beat the four you mentioned. I think certainly on form three Ulster teams would fancy their chances v Galway and that's not to say Galway won't take Mayo?
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 678 - 20/07/2021 18:07:18 2362220 Link 1 |
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You are over stating the case. Gaelic football is alive and very well all over the country. From a marvellous U 20 match between Monaghan and Donegal on Friday evening to a wonderful All Ireland minor final between Derry and Kerry on Saturday afternoon followed by a game for the ages between Monaghan and Armagh we were entertained from start to finish. The Leinster championship as a competition is dead. That however did not stop it throwing up two thoroughly entertaining games on Sunday. Tyrone and Donegal was a terrific contest. Cork and Kerry promises to a good open game. You are being very harsh on Connacht. It is a competitive province. Three of the five counties have won the Connacht title in the last five years. RTÉ love to create "issues" and foment negativity about football. For years they could fall back on the "blanket defence." The new issue is the "unbalanced and unfair championship." Next it will be why players can no longer defend. The structures are far from perfect and and could be improved but the competitions still throw up great entertainment and talking points. We are blessed to have two great field sports that we can call our own and players who want nothing more than to play with pride and passion. Let's count our blessings and enjoy the games.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 20/07/2021 18:23:02 2362224 Link 0 |
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Regarding Ulster teams in 2021, I've only seen the Ulster semi's and our game against Monaghan in the league up close but I didn't see anything there that would trouble Mayo, Galway, Kerry, Dublin in this years championship. Ok you can come back to our loss to Monaghan a few weeks back but Galway really left that one behind. I think our young team will learn from that (I hope) as we caused Monaghan an awful lot of problems but just could not see it out. I'd be confident we would beat Monaghan in a rematch and Tyrone too. ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1572 - 20/07/2021 18:38:02 2362230 Link 1 |
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If Dublin was in Ulster they'd have won the last 10 there as well so it makes no odd's what province they are in.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 20/07/2021 18:38:35 2362232 Link 0 |
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Monaghan beat Galway in the relegation playoff in the league.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 20/07/2021 18:38:40 2362233 Link 1 |