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Hoping that kieran will reflect positively which I'm sure he will . This team came from Div3 without any winning minor/ u20 teams even ulster winning club sides which we had in the past to pick from . I genuinely feel kieran gets some terrible press from outside the county and a very small group of haters inside the county . (He has done a good job rebuilding a team and I am proud of the results I see this year .. I feel its time the county board looked at changing some top positions & thinking around underage development in the county .. maybe when folk take a look at some of the hammerings the underage teams have got in last 5yrs especially ,you may appreciate the outstanding work from senoir management to get a team holding there own with the top teams .. some forget quickly joe karnan (2002 )came into a winning team and guided them extremely well to get over the line but the building of that great team was started in 93/94 .. Theliveshow (Armagh) - Posts: 13 - 17/07/2021 23:18:44 2360883 Link
Overrated, time for change. Every year the same story. So tactically naive every game. icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 19/07/2021 15:58:56 2361769 Link
So frustrating what happened at the back on Saturday, but its been the case all year as far as I can see. Is McGeeney the answer? Some superb footballers, when in full flight on Saturday it was a joy to watch. To concede 4 goals in championship football against a very good side and to bring it all back to a 2 point lead was some going. Either way the only way is up for Armagh I think, another year Div1 will help. ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1572 - 19/07/2021 16:40:35 2361799 Link
Replying To icehonesty: "Overrated, time for change. Every year the same story. So tactically naive every game." Who would you replace him with? For a 'tactically naive' manager he was the last manager I can remember giving Dublin a close run for their money in Leinster. Armagh are on an upward trajectory in the league and have improved their championship competitiveness as well, I wouldnt agree at all that it's the same old story. You'll struggle to find a more passionate, determined and proud Armagh man than Geezer. I'm happy to listen to alternatives to him but there's also no point in changing things just because he's been there a while. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/07/2021 17:13:13 2361826 Link
Got bad press from outside Kildare when he was managing too. But to this day his players on the Kildare team would go through a brick wall for him. Made Armagh competitive as he did with Kildare. He's got Armagh to div 1. Deserves at least the chance to keep them there and should be encouraged to stay IMO St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 19/07/2021 17:52:10 2361839 Link
Replying To icehonesty: "Overrated, time for change. Every year the same story. So tactically naive every game." Agree, lots of blood and thunder but always has been found out when it comes to the hard battles. Personally I think that there might be a bit of hot air in this armagh team. Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 185 - 19/07/2021 18:27:52 2361859 Link
Kildare were a shambles when he took them on. Within 2 1/2 years we were challenging for all Ireland finals and only outdone by disgraceful refereeing and linesman decisions. Armagh have a very sparse crop of talent coming through but he is holding on to them. But he gets bad press because he takes on counties that are division 2 or 3 standard and then gets accused of not winning "the big games". After Gavin, Harte, Malachy and McGuinness he is probably one of the best coaches in the game over the last 20 years. Would love to see what he would do with Mayo or Galway. Would take him back in Kildare in an instant. Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 19/07/2021 19:54:50 2361903 Link
Replying To Daith: "Kildare were a shambles when he took them on. Within 2 1/2 years we were challenging for all Ireland finals and only outdone by disgraceful refereeing and linesman decisions. Armagh have a very sparse crop of talent coming through but he is holding on to them. But he gets bad press because he takes on counties that are division 2 or 3 standard and then gets accused of not winning "the big games". After Gavin, Harte, Malachy and McGuinness he is probably one of the best coaches in the game over the last 20 years. Would love to see what he would do with Mayo or Galway. Would take him back in Kildare in an instant." Agree wouldnt mind him taking over the Dubs. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 19/07/2021 20:51:00 2361923 Link
Replying To Daith: "Kildare were a shambles when he took them on. Within 2 1/2 years we were challenging for all Ireland finals and only outdone by disgraceful refereeing and linesman decisions. Armagh have a very sparse crop of talent coming through but he is holding on to them. But he gets bad press because he takes on counties that are division 2 or 3 standard and then gets accused of not winning "the big games". After Gavin, Harte, Malachy and McGuinness he is probably one of the best coaches in the game over the last 20 years. Would love to see what he would do with Mayo or Galway. Would take him back in Kildare in an instant." Kildare under Mcgeeney never challenged for an all ireland. Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 185 - 19/07/2021 21:29:16 2361938 Link
Allowing his player to go for goal form 60 yds out in the last few mins instead of keeping possession was a cardinal error. befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 19/07/2021 21:42:06 2361944 Link
Replying To Jonnycee: "Kildare under Mcgeeney never challenged for an all ireland." They were one dodgy decision away from an All Ireland final that nobody could begrudge them at that time. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/07/2021 22:59:46 2361972 Link
Replying To befair: "Allowing his player to go for goal form 60 yds out in the last few mins instead of keeping possession was a cardinal error." Disagree armagh didn't have a big enough lead to sit back and hold possession, did you watch the game both armagh & monaghan were full throttle in your face football from start to finish , armagh needed a few more scores and only for a few miss hand passes they were home & dry .. when armagh sit back they lose leads to div 2 & 3 sides .. if you think armagh didn't win because of management on Saturday I seriously can't see your point .. we are massively disappointed not getting to an ulster final ,but no blame directed at players & management on this occasion.. Theliveshow (Armagh) - Posts: 13 - 19/07/2021 23:11:51 2361977 Link
Definitely think they should hold onto him. They are on an upward trajectory and there are going to be setbacks. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 19/07/2021 23:38:21 2361984 Link
Replying To Jonnycee: "Kildare under Mcgeeney never challenged for an all ireland." Might have won one in 2010 Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1705 - 19/07/2021 23:48:57 2361985 Link
If McGeeney could get a top class defense coach in with him then they could be on a winner. Now I don't know who that could be but that's what they need. Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 958 - 20/07/2021 00:11:45 2361989 Link
Replying To Daith: "Kildare were a shambles when he took them on. Within 2 1/2 years we were challenging for all Ireland finals and only outdone by disgraceful refereeing and linesman decisions. Armagh have a very sparse crop of talent coming through but he is holding on to them. But he gets bad press because he takes on counties that are division 2 or 3 standard and then gets accused of not winning "the big games". After Gavin, Harte, Malachy and McGuinness he is probably one of the best coaches in the game over the last 20 years. Would love to see what he would do with Mayo or Galway. Would take him back in Kildare in an instant." Solid points kildare were so close in 2010 and stayed very competitive in his time . We got a good team in armagh now and although we are not winning underage titles for some reason ,like any other county there is still individual lads coming through who are top table .. I think the minors this year against Derry was one that got away I hear ,and Derry now all-ireland champions ( so got to take the positives and keep building.. Really hope kildare vDublin is a good final and kildare ask questions early ,Fenton is now getting involved with silly little things of the ball I genuinely think for the first time he can be got at, and his time alone at top is now not so assured ( if tyrone play dublin later in year you will see how they target him .. every team still got this seemingly impossible task of keeping Con at bay ,he is just a serious bit of stuff when dublin are moving forward .. Theliveshow (Armagh) - Posts: 13 - 20/07/2021 06:42:22 2362001 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "Who would you replace him with? For a 'tactically naive' manager he was the last manager I can remember giving Dublin a close run for their money in Leinster. Armagh are on an upward trajectory in the league and have improved their championship competitiveness as well, I wouldnt agree at all that it's the same old story. You'll struggle to find a more passionate, determined and proud Armagh man than Geezer. I'm happy to listen to alternatives to him but there's also no point in changing things just because he's been there a while." Malachy O'Rourke. McGeeney has been with Armagh for 7 or 8 years, little to show for it. Some great players there. His teams are physically well prepared always, but selection and tactics wise he costs his teams every year. Same when he was with Kildare. He's had the guts of 15 years as an intercounty manager but just isn't top level. icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 20/07/2021 10:25:11 2362036 Link
Replying To icehonesty: "Malachy O'Rourke. McGeeney has been with Armagh for 7 or 8 years, little to show for it. Some great players there. His teams are physically well prepared always, but selection and tactics wise he costs his teams every year. Same when he was with Kildare. He's had the guts of 15 years as an intercounty manager but just isn't top level." Well if Malachy says so … Johnny Doyle and Dermot Early wouldn't agree and they played for Kieran. St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 20/07/2021 11:07:11 2362051 Link
Class man, the way he spoke about Brendan og Duffy at the end of the game. Contrast with the rant of a manager in another code elsewhere. CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 20/07/2021 13:28:36 2362117 Link
Replying To icehonesty: "Malachy O'Rourke. McGeeney has been with Armagh for 7 or 8 years, little to show for it. Some great players there. His teams are physically well prepared always, but selection and tactics wise he costs his teams every year. Same when he was with Kildare. He's had the guts of 15 years as an intercounty manager but just isn't top level." To be fair, Malachy O'Rourke would be a good appointment for most counties but he's managing Glen in Derry last I heard and hasn't shown any interest in Armagh who he's had many a battle against in the past, I think it was Armagh he lost to before leaving Monaghan. But I think your being a bit harsh on McGeeney as a manager. He's managed Kildare and Armagh, not Kerry or Dublin, the liklihood of silverware was always against the odds, but he was the last manager to produce a serious county team in Leinster besides Dublin. Leinster could do with that type of manager badly these days. As for Armagh, when he took over they were a shadow of their former greatness. All their AI winners long gone and talent not coming through like before. It takes time to change things for the better if that's your starting point. 7 or 8 years and I haven't seen any player protests looking for change even once, as far as top managers go in the game I think he's definitely in the mix, especially since he's managing 'non traditional' counties. So I would only look for change once progress has become haunted in Armagh. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 20/07/2021 13:32:57 2362124 Link