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Replying To TippRed:  "A game of two halves. Tipp sublime in the first/Limerick in the second. Limerick should have gone down to 14 but Aaron Gillane won't look a gift horse in the mouth. Brilliant Limerick in the end but don't give them the AI just yet. Remember who took the plaudits at the end of the year in 19"
I think Flanagan's one was worse. He tried deliberately to take the head off and is building a reputation for himself. Gillane's was more reactionary but a red. I think Limerick would have won with 14 but 13 not sure. They did show why they are champions.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1702 - 18/07/2021 18:38:51    2361226

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Replying To katser:  "Tipp looked like a Junior team in the second half and completely blew it...they had the game wrapped up at half time!
Definitely Guillane and Flanagan should have got straight red."
You simply know nothing about hurling and this proved once again.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3315 - 18/07/2021 18:40:14    2361228

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "We've seen why Limerick are all Ireland champions. Amazing second half display. The big talking point will be gillane not being sent off"
The big talking point is Limerick tur ing around and swatting Tipp aside in that second half. Gillane around have got a red but he didn't. The ref didn't blow numerous fouls on Limerick in the first half. Tipp were just shell shocked. The old stagers of Tipp have stayed on one season too long. What service they've given to Tipp but they only have 35mins in them.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1578 - 18/07/2021 18:46:47    2361240

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Replying To TippRed:  "A game of two halves. Tipp sublime in the first/Limerick in the second. Limerick should have gone down to 14 but Aaron Gillane won't look a gift horse in the mouth. Brilliant Limerick in the end but don't give them the AI just yet. Remember who took the plaudits at the end of the year in 19"
There was a dodgy red card decision in that one too.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1416 - 18/07/2021 18:54:38    2361252

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Replying To bloodyban:  "The big talking point is Limerick tur ing around and swatting Tipp aside in that second half. Gillane around have got a red but he didn't. The ref didn't blow numerous fouls on Limerick in the first half. Tipp were just shell shocked. The old stagers of Tipp have stayed on one season too long. What service they've given to Tipp but they only have 35mins in them."
Don't agree with you on that. They showed in the first half that they still have big roles to play. Not all for 70 mins but also bear in mind that Brendan and seamie have little hurling done this year. I have faith in both of them yet. TJ Reid and Horgan are older. These players get written off every year Tipp lose a game and always bounce back. Limerick have a special team so enjoy the win as it's a special occasion for limerick people with all what today's win means but Tipp won't be throwing the towel in in the race for the last cup just yet.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3174 - 18/07/2021 19:04:29    2361266

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Replying To Canuck:  "I think Flanagan's one was worse. He tried deliberately to take the head off and is building a reputation for himself. Gillane's was more reactionary but a red. I think Limerick would have won with 14 but 13 not sure. They did show why they are champions."
Ah Paudie Maher ended a guys career with a wild pull against Kilkenny. He repeatedly breaks out of defence and swings back with the hurley at times. Flanagan just stopped him. It was high. He got a yellow. It would have been a harsh harsh red and Limerick still would have won. That was a turnaround for the generations. The game was actually over with 15 mins to go. Tipp were completely gone.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1578 - 18/07/2021 19:05:40    2361268

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well your not alone- our boys also shut up Henry Shefflin, who was so dismissive at half time."
In fairness Henry did say at the end that he had a red face and not from the hot sun.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1572 - 18/07/2021 19:09:48    2361275

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Replying To Canuck:  "I think Flanagan's one was worse. He tried deliberately to take the head off and is building a reputation for himself. Gillane's was more reactionary but a red. I think Limerick would have won with 14 but 13 not sure. They did show why they are champions."
Did you see the hurley around the neck of Cian Lynch at all or the dirty pull on Hegarty over under the far stand or the missed foul on Hayed when he was in the danger area in the first half - Peter Casey was binned for less against Cork. . Canuck, Hegarty took the belt and stayed on his feet when he could have thrown himself down and rolled around the ground for nothing. Maybe if Barret had not made such a meal of it, as he did with Ritchie Hogan two years ago, Gullane might have been put off, but perhaps the ref did not appreciate such an onslaught on his intelligence.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3315 - 18/07/2021 19:13:18    2361277

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Lynch was the man of match no question but what a performance from Forde. 7 points from play in a munster final in a position he hasn't played a huge amount. Some going. 3-17 from play isn't half bad from a team either.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3174 - 18/07/2021 19:15:47    2361280

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Did you see the hurley around the neck of Cian Lynch at all or the dirty pull on Hegarty over under the far stand or the missed foul on Hayed when he was in the danger area in the first half - Peter Casey was binned for less against Cork. . Canuck, Hegarty took the belt and stayed on his feet when he could have thrown himself down and rolled around the ground for nothing. Maybe if Barret had not made such a meal of it, as he did with Ritchie Hogan two years ago, Gullane might have been put off, but perhaps the ref did not appreciate such an onslaught on his intelligence."
But that's what Barrett does regularly, he should have a mattress on his back he spends that much time on the ground.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1416 - 18/07/2021 19:21:43    2361284

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Lynch was the man of match no question but what a performance from Forde. 7 points from play in a munster final in a position he hasn't played a huge amount. Some going. 3-17 from play isn't half bad from a team either."
Fantastic display of shooting, he scored a point in the second half where he just turned over his shoulder, a joy to watch. His freetaking was impeccable too

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1416 - 18/07/2021 19:27:21    2361290

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Well done our Limerick heroes,what a phenomenal performance.I was remindec of 1996 in the Gaelic Grounds and Tipp up ten points at half time.I can still see the Nashes clearing ball after ball in the second half into the danger zone and Limerick coming back point after point to draw the match.Limerick won well in the replay in Cork.It was a privilege to be there that day and witness it all.It would have been something else to be in Cork today and watch those titans from Limerick scale such heights in the second half.
Thank you all concerned in Limerick,you truly are wonderful.What a day.....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 18/07/2021 19:30:17    2361291

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Replying To Bon:  "But that's what Barrett does regularly, he should have a mattress on his back he spends that much time on the ground."
Barrett is a tough tenacious corner back who completely undermines himself by either diving to get his man sent off or getting sent off himself...

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 910 - 18/07/2021 19:44:17    2361298

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Replying To skillet:  "Barrett is a tough tenacious corner back who completely undermines himself by either diving to get his man sent off or getting sent off himself..."
Its shameful stuff. Well it didn't work out for him this time.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1416 - 18/07/2021 20:30:29    2361336

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Sublime comeback, as they say Carlsberg dont do comebacks but if they did they probably best ones ever. Unbelievable game, Limerick incredible.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4657 - 18/07/2021 18:00:38 2361167

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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "And the biggest decision of the game he got wrong."
I know. It happened right after that comment I put was posted... He should have went
preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 551 - 18/07/2021 18:02:06 2361169

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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "And the biggest decision of the game he got wrong."
He missed 2 red card tackles by Limerick players today.

That being said Tipp embarrassed themselves in the second half
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2058 - 18/07/2021 18:05:00 2361172

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Replying To midfield9: "The 2 big calls went Limericks way. Gillane should have seen red for striking and Seamus Kennedy should have seen red for his high tackle on Padraig Maher. Very poor by referee and his officials. Kennedys tackle was the worse of the 2."
Shamus Flanagan.
midfield9 (Westmeath) - Posts: 72 - 18/07/2021 18:16:21 2361185

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What a second hand performance by Limerick.

Kyle Hayes goal was brilliant. Goal of the year wrapped up.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1307 - 18/07/2021 18:17:55 2361187

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Can I just mention Kyle Hayes,what a performance after what would have been a very tough week for him and his club..massive game and it will ease some of the pain hopefully..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1281 - 18/07/2021 18:19:55 2361189

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Why would Seamus Kennedy tackle Padraig Maher? Do they not get on? Are they that bitter in Tipperary that they tackle each other? Nonsense

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 267 - 18/07/2021 18:21:15 2361192

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "He missed 2 red card tackles by Limerick players today.

That being said Tipp embarrassed themselves in the second half"
LRH. In '62, '75, '81, '96 '07, and today Limerick were ten or more points down against Tipp and in every occasion except '62 they came back and saw off TIpp. This is also to my Knowledge the only time one of the major counties, as in big three, were beaten four years in a row, by the same opposition, in any provincial championship.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2963 - 18/07/2021 18:27:56 2361203

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Replying To preddan: "Tipp getting the big desicions again fouls and no frees given, them and Cork are well looked after by the hierarchy in the gaa"
The referee is from Carlow, Preddan, hardly one of "the hierarchy", with all due respect. And he was very generous to Limerick in the second half by failing to send off Gillane, and maybe Flanagan as well. So much for the argument being floated earlier in the year that referees were being especially hard on Limerick. A great team, without a doubt, but it's time to put to bed the theory that they are being somehow victimised, and most of those complaints didn't come from Limerick people, in fairness.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 260 - 18/07/2021 18:30:05 2361207

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Replying To midfield9: "The 2 big calls went Limericks way. Gillane should have seen red for striking and Seamus Kennedy should have seen red for his high tackle on Padraig Maher. Very poor by referee and his officials. Kennedys tackle was the worse of the 2."
I presume you mean Seamus Flanagan, not Kennedy.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 260 - 18/07/2021 18:31:45 2361212

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Great come back by Limerick. Lucky though not to finish with 13 men but I feel they were going so strong would have won with 14 anyway. Flanagan is now showing a history of this type of foul. In a way Gillane did not know look to see where Barrett was but just swiped but no excuse. Conor Gleeson must wonder how he missed an All-Ireland for a flick after he was rooted in the ribs. Both are a reaction to getting hurt in the foul. However delighted for Limerick and showed why they are champions.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1406 - 18/07/2021 18:31:59 2361213

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Replying To mooncat: "Kk had 10 scorers yesterday,"
Ignore him. Every comment he has made on here about Kilkenny are all negative.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1394 - 18/07/2021 18:36:25 2361221

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Replying To midfield9: "The 2 big calls went Limericks way. Gillane should have seen red for striking and Seamus Kennedy should have seen red for his high tackle on Padraig Maher. Very poor by referee and his officials. Kennedys tackle was the worse of the 2."
Limerick are the best hurling team in the country but a sending off could yet undo them. Gillane should have gone today.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1414 - 18/07/2021 18:37:58 2361222

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "He missed 2 red card tackles by Limerick players today.

That being said Tipp embarrassed themselves in the second half"
Two stone wall red cards but you won't find a Tipp man looking for excuses or blaming the red for this loss like another county in munster can't stop doing for last couple of weeks.
No embarrassment either to lose to a team like limerick on a day with heat like that.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3001 - 18/07/2021 18:38:16 2361224

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Replying To midfield9: "The 2 big calls went Limericks way. Gillane should have seen red for striking and Seamus Kennedy should have seen red for his high tackle on Padraig Maher. Very poor by referee and his officials. Kennedys tackle was the worse of the 2."
As Cooney have should got for the reckless challenge that put Joe Canning in casualty. Also a vicious belt of a hurley on Hegarty should have also merited a red card. He was shake n but he got up and foughton and did not make a meal of it like Barret did.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2963 - 18/07/2021 18:44:28 2361236

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Replying To midfield9: "The 2 big calls went Limericks way. Gillane should have seen red for striking and Seamus Kennedy should have seen red for his high tackle on Padraig Maher. Very poor by referee and his officials. Kennedys tackle was the worse of the 2."
As Cooney have should got for the reckless challenge that put Joe Canning in casualty. Also a vicious belt of a hurley on Hegarty should have also merited a red card. He was shake n but he got up and fought on and did not make a meal of it like Barret did.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2963 - 18/07/2021 18:44:42 2361237

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Certain posters on here said Limerick were a tired team. They were...but only for one half. And not the important half.

That was a performance for the ages. As good as anything even produced by Cody's great teams. Has hurling ever seen a better goal than Kyle Hayes'?

Mind you, that first-half performance from Tipp was as good as any I've seen from any Tipperary team throughout the years. Bringing Dan Morrissey in was key to stemming the Tipp tide. He certainly showed his All-Star worth.

The two sides could meet again. What a final that would be to look forward to! However, if Limk don't cut out their tendency to commit red-cardable fouls, then the title could be Tipp's (or KK's).

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 798 - 18/07/2021 21:13:43    2361371

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Replying To Bon:  "Its shameful stuff. Well it didn't work out for him this time."
Barrett may do this or that and everything else but that doesn't justify gillane not getting a red red card. Strike with the hurl is red end of story

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 184 - 18/07/2021 21:22:29    2361381

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Ah Paudie Maher ended a guys career with a wild pull against Kilkenny. He repeatedly breaks out of defence and swings back with the hurley at times. Flanagan just stopped him. It was high. He got a yellow. It would have been a harsh harsh red and Limerick still would have won. That was a turnaround for the generations. The game was actually over with 15 mins to go. Tipp were completely gone."
I hate seeing anyone sent off but we have come along ways from accidentally knocking off a players helmet while solo running up the side line to now it is knock his helmet off with his head in it and just a yellow. Look the refs have a ridiculous hard job with the fast field game in the world and yes soccer style fakers now playing it. The game has moved on but the people who made and implement rules are in a time warp. All goals, cards should be quickly reviewed and non conclusive scores. There are several ways of doing this with minimum if any hold up. It is also a two ref job. There is also always going to be look what your side got away with. I don't want to execute the referees but terrible inconsistencies in applying the rules not always through their fault. Yes there are refs who seem to be in over their heads also. Teams get better because of resources but are the resources for referees good enough?
Getting back to the game. Limerick are an unbelievable well tuned machine in action and long may it last if we cannot get there. It is looking more and doubtful for us except a miracle takes place.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1702 - 18/07/2021 21:52:57    2361400

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Barrett may do this or that and everything else but that doesn't justify gillane not getting a red red card. Strike with the hurl is red end of story"
I agree with you he should have walked, but to be lying there slapping the ground isn't on either. Its the type of carry on neymar goes on with trying to get opponents carded.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1416 - 18/07/2021 21:55:17    2361401

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I agree the ref made a few errors but don't all refs...a few frees limerick should have got...Kyle Hays fouled as he was bearing down on goal and a Limerick player pulled out over the sideline by a Tipp player and I think there was one on Cian Lynch fouled and given a free against him.The ref decisions usually balance out.
Its hard to believe that a team that were ten points behind at ht and were outplayed by some terrific wristy hurling from Tipp and also a huge work rate,could turn it around and keep Tipp to just one point score by the second half water break.It would be disingenuous to blame the ref.This Limerick team are just incredible athletes and hurlers.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 18/07/2021 22:26:33    2361428

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Replying To Bon:  "Its shameful stuff. Well it didn't work out for him this time."
I think you ré being very harsh on him today. He got good bang of a Hurley across the legs. I'm sure even Tyson Fury would be hurt after that.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2795 - 18/07/2021 22:41:51    2361435

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