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Replying To Viking66:  "Not everywhere in the county Storeystash. We have to be careful what we wish for. If we cut Davy loose and end up settling for someone unproven like Eddie Brennan we could go backwards very quickly"
I don't want Eddie either but I think people want change. Try something different.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 19/07/2021 17:27:14    2361831

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I don't want Eddie either but I think people want change. Try something different."
I know we disagree over Davy I think he should get 1 more year you think he should've been gone after last year. But at least we agree we need someone who has a proven track record. And we both actually care about our countys intercounty hurling fortunes which is more than can be said for alot of the posters on this. Maybe get Liam Griffin to give it another go?!! Hes still a fresh 74 year old!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 19/07/2021 19:00:38    2361879

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "By your definition is everyone outside of say Limerick average?

Kilkenny are very average and Clare are very very average? So who are above average? Cork? what have Cork done? Galway who lost to Dublin? Tipperary who needed the worst refereeing decision in modern hurling history to beat clare?

Clare have played super stuff in championship so far beating last years all Ireland finalists in the opening round and yet we are very very average? I'll tell you one thing, there is genuinely only 1 team in Ireland I think we would really struggle against and that's Limerick. This very very average Clare team could beat any of the other teams."
You didn't beat Tipp in the championship though.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 19/07/2021 19:10:32    2361882

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Interesting that the nailed on hurler of the year so far was kept very quiet by Davy and Wexford.Five years is a good while to be in charge so maybe a fresh face and fresh thinking is required.Wexford are not that far off and building a stronger/bigger squad is required.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 19/07/2021 19:51:20    2361901

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Interesting that the nailed on hurler of the year so far was kept very quiet by Davy and Wexford.Five years is a good while to be in charge so maybe a fresh face and fresh thinking is required.Wexford are not that far off and building a stronger/bigger squad is required."
The squad has improved an awful lot this year. We had 3 good hurlers who have had many intercounty starts between them on the bench, Jacko, Nolan and Damien Reck, which is a first for many many years. Dunne and Dwyer too are greatly improved this year and Hearne is also and only in his 1st year on the panel. Hopefully Paudie Foley will come back next year. We have by far and away our best squad since 96.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 19/07/2021 21:01:21    2361930

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Replying To Viking66:  "I know we disagree over Davy I think he should get 1 more year you think he should've been gone after last year. But at least we agree we need someone who has a proven track record. And we both actually care about our countys intercounty hurling fortunes which is more than can be said for alot of the posters on this. Maybe get Liam Griffin to give it another go?!! Hes still a fresh 74 year old!"
To be fair Liam Griffen would be a good man to have involved in some captaincy. His enthusiasm is infectious. A gent.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 19/07/2021 22:28:34    2361958

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I don't want Eddie either but I think people want change. Try something different."
I would think it makes sense alright. Even if everyone was happy with Davy as manager, surely it would still be in the best interests of Wexford to move on. A different voice in the dressingroom could give the team that bit extra they need to reach the summit.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 20/07/2021 00:48:21    2361995

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Interesting that the nailed on hurler of the year so far was kept very quiet by Davy and Wexford.Five years is a good while to be in charge so maybe a fresh face and fresh thinking is required.Wexford are not that far off and building a stronger/bigger squad is required."
Yeah, to be fair Davy did put Shane Reck - probably the stickiest, most tenacious, most annoying hurler (in the best meaning way) to play on in Wexford on him. He is the best man-marker in Wexford by a mile and he did a great job on TK.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 20/07/2021 09:19:59    2362018

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Liam Griffin? Ah Jesus lads, talk about a backward step........
No offence but the game has moved on so much. The romance of 96 should be buried in the history books once the 25 year team is given their day in the sun this year.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 20/07/2021 09:22:11    2362019

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Interesting that the nailed on hurler of the year so far was kept very quiet by Davy and Wexford.Five years is a good while to be in charge so maybe a fresh face and fresh thinking is required.Wexford are not that far off and building a stronger/bigger squad is required."
Tony Kelly is a brillaint player that I greatly admire but if I was to predict the hurler of the year at this stage I wouldn't look beyond Cian Lynch. Limerick have a team full of stars but Lynch, in my view, is their main man. He has it all - skill, vision, work ethic, and a genuine team player.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 542 - 20/07/2021 10:31:44    2362039

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Replying To Viking66:  "The squad has improved an awful lot this year. We had 3 good hurlers who have had many intercounty starts between them on the bench, Jacko, Nolan and Damien Reck, which is a first for many many years. Dunne and Dwyer too are greatly improved this year and Hearne is also and only in his 1st year on the panel. Hopefully Paudie Foley will come back next year. We have by far and away our best squad since 96."
We had a better squad in 2003, 2004

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 20/07/2021 10:37:11    2362041

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Liam Griffin? Ah Jesus lads, talk about a backward step........
No offence but the game has moved on so much. The romance of 96 should be buried in the history books once the 25 year team is given their day in the sun this year."
Was slightly tongue in cheek storeystash:D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 20/07/2021 11:15:09    2362052

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Yeah, to be fair Davy did put Shane Reck - probably the stickiest, most tenacious, most annoying hurler (in the best meaning way) to play on in Wexford on him. He is the best man-marker in Wexford by a mile and he did a great job on TK."
I wouldn't have described Shane as that even a month ago but fair play to him he proved me wrong and the job he did on TK speaks for itself.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 20/07/2021 11:26:10    2362057

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "We had a better squad in 2003, 2004"
Dont think so Hurlerohurley think our current squad are better. Better keeper in 03 Fitzhenry. Ruth v Liam Ryan would be very close. Dunne and Larry O Gorman in their twilight. Adrian Fenlon brilliant but Liam og and DOK are very good. Jordan, Codd, McCarthy, Murphy and Jacobs good but then Mac, Morris Chin, Rory O Connor top players and Jacko, Dunbar, Dunne and Dwyer all improved alot this year. I wouldnt say they were a better squad in those days usually there would only be a couple of subs. But point taken we had our days when everything would click we couldve beaten Cork in 03 although they were the better team on the day. Overall I think our current squad has been much more consistent, except the 2 covid championship matches in 2020, than we were in the early noughties where while we had some great highs like the 04 Leinster semi and the 03 AISF we also got hammered like in the 03 AISF replay and 03 Leinster final and 04 AISF. And tbh we were a little lucky in the 04 Leinster final also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 20/07/2021 11:40:01    2362064

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The roof won't fall in on Wexford hurling if Fitzgerald goes.

If one man is bigger than a county you have problems. Wexford is a proud hurling county with rich tradition. There are many hurling managers with different methods who can do aswell or better.

CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 20/07/2021 13:26:12    2362114

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Replying To midlands:  "Tony Kelly is a brillaint player that I greatly admire but if I was to predict the hurler of the year at this stage I wouldn't look beyond Cian Lynch. Limerick have a team full of stars but Lynch, in my view, is their main man. He has it all - skill, vision, work ethic, and a genuine team player."
He linked everything up when he came deep in the second half. Elusive player.

CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 20/07/2021 13:30:38    2362123

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Replying To CC2020:  "The roof won't fall in on Wexford hurling if Fitzgerald goes.

If one man is bigger than a county you have problems. Wexford is a proud hurling county with rich tradition. There are many hurling managers with different methods who can do aswell or better."
Exactly. For me, Davy has brought us up a level. But he had a team which Liam Dunne had blooded and took over a team who had just beaten Cork for the first time in 50 years.
I know KK had hammered them in Nowlan Park earlier that year, but we had a young team at the time whereas KK had seasoned campaigners, many of which have since departed the scene.
Do we have players to win an All-Ireland? No. We don't. But I want to see if a new man can make us play a different way. If the result is the same, well at least we tried something different.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 20/07/2021 14:16:51    2362148

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Replying To CC2020:  "The roof won't fall in on Wexford hurling if Fitzgerald goes.

If one man is bigger than a county you have problems. Wexford is a proud hurling county with rich tradition. There are many hurling managers with different methods who can do aswell or better."
Ah yes no doubt we arent where we were before Liam Dunne took over. And I agree Davy going wouldnt be the end of the world. But we are short on top local born managers at the minute. Even some of the senior clubs have looked outside the county. Be interesting to see how Martin Storey gets on with the Taghmon hurlers at intermediate. By all accounts he is very old school in his approach. Not too many of the 96 lads seem to have gone into management. If we look outside the county there arent too many proven senior intercounty managers looking for jobs. A few of the Kilkenny lads from the noughties have enjoyed a little success, Shefflin, Carey, Fennelly and Brennan, but none are proven at intercounty level and how would they manage a Wexford team against Kilkenny? A team we are going to meet every year with the round robin returning. And that's if we'd have a Kilkenny man at the helm at all which most supporters wouldn't want. I suppose a big part of me is thinking with Davy there, and ignoring 2020, we have been so very close to winning all the games we have lost the last 3 years. If we change manager and system now will it take a few years to adjust? Clare have won nothing since he left for example.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 20/07/2021 14:50:09    2362162

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "In fairness James Ryan should have got a 6 month ban for what he did that day. Not even a card if I remember correctly. No idea how he got anyway with that. Davy had the last laugh though winning promotion that year."
Haha I'll admit your bit of trolling made me chuckle. Without trying to get too much into something nearly 10 years ago, ok if James Ryan was to get a 6 month suspension then Davy should have gotten a 2 year suspension for repeatedly encroaching on the field interfering with a player during play.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 20/07/2021 16:40:13    2362197

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah yes no doubt we arent where we were before Liam Dunne took over. And I agree Davy going wouldnt be the end of the world. But we are short on top local born managers at the minute. Even some of the senior clubs have looked outside the county. Be interesting to see how Martin Storey gets on with the Taghmon hurlers at intermediate. By all accounts he is very old school in his approach. Not too many of the 96 lads seem to have gone into management. If we look outside the county there arent too many proven senior intercounty managers looking for jobs. A few of the Kilkenny lads from the noughties have enjoyed a little success, Shefflin, Carey, Fennelly and Brennan, but none are proven at intercounty level and how would they manage a Wexford team against Kilkenny? A team we are going to meet every year with the round robin returning. And that's if we'd have a Kilkenny man at the helm at all which most supporters wouldn't want. I suppose a big part of me is thinking with Davy there, and ignoring 2020, we have been so very close to winning all the games we have lost the last 3 years. If we change manager and system now will it take a few years to adjust? Clare have won nothing since he left for example."
With regards to a Kilkenny manager you'd be surprised how professional people can be. We have instances like Andy Farrell frequently managing against his son in rugby.

And if not an internal manager you could attract managers from other hurling counties. I know success hasn't been great with Meyler from Cork and Cyril Farrell in 1992.

CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 21/07/2021 13:11:01    2362484

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