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Decouple Provincial Champ In Football From All Ireland

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I like a 3-group Top 16 - groups of 6, 5 & 5.
The 6 play the other 10 and the 5s play separate round robins - so all play 10 games, 5 home, 5 away. Top 8 in 16-team table to Aussie AFL-style playoffs.
Same Tier 2 Lower 16 - SF 4 go up, 4 down (13-16), or 2 up / 2 down for less yoyo and possibly stronger / more exclusive promoted sides.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2150 - 15/07/2021 00:17:03    2359983

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Replying To Breezy:  "When did I ever say anything like that ?"
Well it is implied in "Part of the opposition comes from within Kerry because they know getting bate 20+ points every year in Munster was and is no good for Kerry hurling".

I would be of the opinion that Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford and Dublin will probably give them 20+ point beatings as well.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1377 - 15/07/2021 10:16:04    2360016

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Kerry will be in Leinster if they win Joe,

Which will be a bit absurd. Counties from every province in it then potentially.

I can see the point regarding them getting their **** handed to them by Munster teams, but once again (as with Westies and Antrim) a Leinster county will lose out.

Upside is, Dublin get to beat them twice in the championship maybe...... okay, i'll get me coat."
That depends on the draw. Kerry might have to play Kilkenny first and we might not beat them lol

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2768 - 15/07/2021 11:15:27    2360043

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Well it is implied in "Part of the opposition comes from within Kerry because they know getting bate 20+ points every year in Munster was and is no good for Kerry hurling".

I would be of the opinion that Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford and Dublin will probably give them 20+ point beatings as well."
The reason Kerry play in Leinster is we were too strong for Munster. Kilkenny have been the same since Kerry played in Leinster a few seasons ago. The fear shhok them to their very foundations.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2768 - 15/07/2021 11:18:11    2360046

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Well it is implied in "Part of the opposition comes from within Kerry because they know getting bate 20+ points every year in Munster was and is no good for Kerry hurling".

I would be of the opinion that Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford and Dublin will probably give them 20+ point beatings as well."
Under straight knockout they choose not to be in Munster and under the recent system they were happy to be in the Leinster qualifying rounds and then with the current round robin system they are happy to be in Joe and try get promoted to Munster (They will not be in Leinster under the agreed system)

They are not and have not been excluded from Munster but this nonsense keeps popping up about bullying from the other 5 in Munster

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 15/07/2021 13:00:04    2360101

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Replying To Breezy:  "Under straight knockout they choose not to be in Munster and under the recent system they were happy to be in the Leinster qualifying rounds and then with the current round robin system they are happy to be in Joe and try get promoted to Munster (They will not be in Leinster under the agreed system)

They are not and have not been excluded from Munster but this nonsense keeps popping up about bullying from the other 5 in Munster"
Where have they said they are happy to be in Leinster? If there is no relegation in Munster how can they get into Munster?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5688 - 15/07/2021 13:26:56    2360114

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Where have they said they are happy to be in Leinster? If there is no relegation in Munster how can they get into Munster?"
As far as I know, they have to play the provisional round loser in Munster to get into Munster? Imagine the clamour if they won that!

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1377 - 15/07/2021 15:56:05    2360159

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Where have they said they are happy to be in Leinster? If there is no relegation in Munster how can they get into Munster?"
Under the round robin system how many times do I have to say it. The current system is temporary so under the round robin system they would go into Munster if promoted.

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 15/07/2021 17:02:46    2360176

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "As far as I know, they have to play the provisional round loser in Munster to get into Munster? Imagine the clamour if they won that!"
Yes that's how it works.

But given that Leinster set a precedent I hope that if Kerry win Joe they just put 6 in Munster for a year and relegate the bottom team the next year

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 15/07/2021 17:05:06    2360177

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "As far as I know, they have to play the provisional round loser in Munster to get into Munster? Imagine the clamour if they won that!"
Thanks StorysTash and Breezy for clearing that up.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5688 - 15/07/2021 23:43:04    2360280

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