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Southgate seems like a nice man, however the booing of the anthems etc is deplorable behaviour so therefore I want Italy to win and I think they will. They are too cute for England in terms of play. I echo others saying it is amusing to have devotees of English club football turning on their national team and finding multiple excuses why it doesn't matter. Like those who say Celtic are an Irish club and it slap bang in the Empire's second city. kick-it (Leitrim) - Posts: 33 - 09/07/2021 08:38:32 2357928 Link 1 |
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So they sing rule Britannia and it doesn't get on your wick? As for WW2, it's like 66, they're still going on about it. Most wars they were involved in were invasions of countries. Not bring family into discussion as people might make accusations, give me the Germans anyway.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 09/07/2021 09:49:19 2357935 Link 11 |
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This thread was about Hoganstand's readers' views on the English team-what are the attitudes of GAA fans towards the English soccer team. That is a legitimate enquiry. The fact that there are over 100 replies within a day would suggest that it is worth discussing. . It wasn't about soccer per se. Perhaps if you hadn't worked yourself up into a lather of indignation you would. have seen that.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 09/07/2021 10:00:17 2357939 Link 7 |
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I could never support Denmark. Not after what they did to Brian Boru, and him an old man at the time Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 09/07/2021 10:16:19 2357944 Link 6 |
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Well spotted. I've heard that too and assumed that that was just the soccer way of singing things. I remember going to a Bohs match 2 years ago and seeing men in their 30s and 40s sporting the style and haircuts of mods and Brit rockers and chanting with English accents. Most of the songs and chants are based on English bands. They have a parody of Spandau Ballet's 'Gold", where they replace Gold with Bohs in the chorus. You couldn't make it up.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 09/07/2021 10:16:20 2357945 Link 5 |
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This is spot on! I'd never want a situation where the GAA didn't exist, to me it is the best sport in the world and always will be. It is elite sports that touches every community in Ireland and no sport comes anyway close. Does it impact on our abilty to compete internationally or have our own professional brand in other sports; yes! Rugby is played by a few countries and doesn't have the same international scope around the world as soccer so have a foothold to some extent with pockets around Ireland. Ireland is sport mad and if the GAA didn't exist I'd see a situation where soccer touched every community in Ireland. The success of Croatia, Denmark, Uruguay, countries the same size or slightly smaller than Ireland shows if the right structures were in place in a country where soccer touched every community and was the number 1 sport it's clear what would be produced and achieved. The success of the GAA is the reason why professional sport doesn't work in Ireland on a large scale, yes central IRFU contracts help but that isn't sustainable for a truly countrywide professional league say with soccer. If the local GAA club are playing but the professional soccer team are playing; majority of our country go to the GAA field or stay at home if a GAA match is on tele hence why soccer people who want a professional/good standard league go elsewhere. GAA is our sport and always will be; we'll take whatever success we get in other sports but yes to go back to your point of course having the GAA stops us doing with soccer what other smaller nations do but we don't really mind as we have the best sports in the world on our doorstep. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 09/07/2021 10:33:18 2357953 Link 2 |
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haha... been living in London a number of years I can confirm that football is by far the biggest sport and they support the national team just as much as they do in other areas.
Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 09/07/2021 10:38:38 2357955 Link 0 |
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WW2 and 1966, sure that's nothing, aren't we still going on about what happened in 1169 ! :-). AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 10:39:19 2357956 Link 1 |
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and he on his knees saying a few oul' prayers too.....
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 09/07/2021 10:42:16 2357958 Link 5 |
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It's the biggest sport in Liverpool and Manchester as well.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 09/07/2021 10:48:25 2357960 Link 0 |
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Why would anyone want to support a country that still occupies part of its national territory after hundreds and hundreds of years of colonialism and imperialism causing so much misery and suffering on this island?? REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 09/07/2021 10:57:13 2357965 Link 5 |
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Don't care who wins. It's a game of football. The two best teams left in it. Italy are flagging a bit since they got out of the group, Donnaruma has been their best player and they've two experienced but slow centre backs. Southgate has been pragmatic and used the bench well. They're at home, Italy have been unbeaten for a lot of games and have more big game experience for club and country. There's plenty of idiot English fans but there's plenty of idiot fans in other countries. Just hope it's a good game of football. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 09/07/2021 11:09:06 2357966 Link 2 |
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Let me ask you this then. Do you hate an English person who has no interest in football. Would you hate a member of your family just because they were born in England. Relevant question because a lot of Irish people have English relatives.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 09/07/2021 11:22:33 2357972 Link 0 |
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Would someone in the know be able to tell me; browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 09/07/2021 11:35:10 2357977 Link 5 |
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Except this team of players and the coach are far from arrogant, far more respectful of others than many previous teams etc etc
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3496 - 09/07/2021 11:38:58 2357979 Link 0 |
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Maybe hate was too strong a word more dislike. I really dislike England as a country. Even in the Brexit negotiations they believed that Ireland was having too much say and causing difficulties. They have an ill founded sense of superiority. I have relatives in England I don't hate them but some of them are a bit full of themselves. The Nationalist people in the six counties continue to suffer under the yoke of British oppression.
REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 09/07/2021 11:46:47 2357984 Link 3 |
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In fairness, he never said he hated any of the individuals. You've drawn that conclusion yourself. He just said he can't support the national team that represents a country with such a terrible history on our island. I don't think that's too surprising or unreasonable. I made a point a few pages ago about how Polish people wouldn't support the German national team. The Dutch have very strong negative feelings towards the German too. They have their obvious reasons. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2036 - 09/07/2021 11:48:11 2357985 Link 3 |
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The group of players may be the nicest lads on earth, but they're representing a country with the history he's referring to. We're not unique in being an occupied country that's not too keen on its former ruler. It's commonplace around the world and hardly surprising.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2036 - 09/07/2021 11:54:02 2357989 Link 0 |
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English fans have disgraced their country again during this tournament again surely?? They will only get worse. The English media are so annoying. If they did win this tournament you would never hear the end of it. England losing in major tournaments all the time has meant that they have had nothing to shout about. It was a much happier time !!!
REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 09/07/2021 11:57:13 2357992 Link 0 |
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I don't know actually, but I'd guess there's a higher percentage of drunken hooligans roaming every Irish town every weekend and I would also guess they are carrying much more than lasers in their pockets. Note: The above view was only relevant when the Irish were allowed out, which at the time of writing is no longer the case. They must stay at home and watch the rest of Europe party. Shambles of a country. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 11:58:30 2357993 Link 2 |