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I would not put too much credance in what that journalist says. It is estimated 250,000 fans descended on Wembley way. That is a policing and crowd control problem, not a football one.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2611 - 13/07/2021 18:29:17 2359495 Link 0 |
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They may have the Japanese government at a disadvantage but the fact no one is going to be attending events is going to cost them big time.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 13/07/2021 18:46:03 2359501 Link 0 |
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World cup is it? Let's get the Tailtean Cup going first
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1067 - 13/07/2021 19:18:47 2359508 Link 0 |
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It would be stunning both as a statement and as an indictment of the whole rotten establishment if little Ireland were the ones to drop England from the bid. Of course then there wouldn't be much of a bid, but imagine Ireland stepping up and saying "No thanks, England".
Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1161 - 13/07/2021 19:45:47 2359518 Link 0 |
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I can absolutely guarantee you without a shadow of a doubt that migrant workers get treated better and are given more respect in England than they would be in almost any 3rd world nation. But making white working class English men look bad is just what people wanna see these days i guess.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 13/07/2021 20:05:23 2359524 Link 2 |
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At this point I would also like to point out that italy, our fragrant new football darling, isn't exactly a bed of progressive roses either. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 13/07/2021 20:07:36 2359526 Link 0 |
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I'm not a big fan of fans of the English national team but I would say any world cup bid mainly held in England will have a great chance of success, in reality in terms of infrastructure and stadiums England could host it on their own. English people are really interested in soccer and I have a feeling games in English cities would be more likely to sell out than games in Dublin. Because of England's big soccer mad population and the attraction of some of the world's most famous soccer stadiums FIFA could make a fortune on ticket sales and sponsorship.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1413 - 13/07/2021 20:13:54 2359528 Link 0 |
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They wouldn't need any pull, not in their own right. The fact that they're specifically not England would be enough.
Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1161 - 13/07/2021 20:17:09 2359530 Link 0 |
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Cardiff isnt big enough to have 2 stadiums. Doesnt have enough accommodation and everything else to cope with 2 stadiums and wouldnt think Ravenhill and Thomond would be better suited. Take out Cardiff city stadium and add one in from ideally Ireland if you had another ground developed to be modern stadium with far better facilities... KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3746 - 13/07/2021 20:19:08 2359532 Link 0 |
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Emmm... yeah, that's why he said it was such a poorly policed game...
Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1161 - 13/07/2021 20:21:54 2359533 Link 1 |
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Thomond Park looks great but it is only the same capacity as a small GAA county ground and has very little room to expand without knocking the new stands which I doubt will happen No way a World Cup can happen without England Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 13/07/2021 20:48:31 2359545 Link 0 |
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Of course but Thomond at least is far more modern and capable of hosting games compared to a lot of the GAA stadiums. No doubt a world cup wouldnt be able to happen here without england unless there were some serious developments made to grounds in all 3 countries. problem is England doesnt need the other countries for any reason and the whole reason for the bid from ireland/scotland/wales is that its the only way theyd ever be able to host this tournament... KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3746 - 13/07/2021 21:03:21 2359551 Link 1 |
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:D
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8740 - 13/07/2021 22:42:46 2359596 Link 2 |
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I'm not entirely sure as to why they require us for any bid, as let's be honest they are more than capable of hosting the World Cup without us, and easily have enough decent stadiums. Bar the cluster f**k that was last Sunday, the English have hosted many large tournaments with great aplomb, what happened last Sunday was a major f**k up by the Police, pure and simple. No more than when our own Police for some amazing reason decided to put the English supporters in the top deck of Lansdowne Road in 1995, nobody without a ticket should have got within a mile of Wembley last Sunday. So with that in mind, the blame lies purely with the Met and also the FA who in an effort to cut costs (apparently Covid has cost them £150 million), decided on a much smaller Police presence.
gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 14/07/2021 12:59:28 2359753 Link 2 |
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I've said earlier that I don't think we should touch a World Cup bid with a barge pole because we've more important things to pay for in the coming decade. But if things were in better shape I think the idea of a "Celtic World Cup" would be nice - ourselves, Scotland and Wales and maybe even the Bretagne region! Forget the English! Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 14/07/2021 13:43:53 2359771 Link 0 |
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The World Cup is 48 teams now so thats not enough stadiums. Would make a nice Euros though
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/07/2021 14:08:17 2359783 Link 0 |
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Whatever bid Ireland North or South is involved in will be minimal. A World Cup stadium requires 40,000 minimum, 60000 for a QF and 75000 beyond that. There is also a requirement for it to be all seater and have significant media and hospitality areas. The Aviva and Croke Park as things stand would be the only two stadia on the island of Ireland, and bids don't tend to have more than one stadium in the same city so you'd likely have to choose one as Croker and the Aviva are too close together. PUC could be made all seater but who would fund that when the development hasn't been paid off yet, not sure Windsor would have the finance or space to add 22,000 extra seats with significant hospitality areas to go with them. It's why I'd question if it's worth joining any bid, personally I think the 2030 bid will end up being England/Scotland with a lot of politics behind that bid. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 14/07/2021 14:14:03 2359790 Link 0 |
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We could be on the verge or in a civil war by 2030 or still in some form of lock down, there will be no football World cup in Ireland, ever. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 14/07/2021 14:15:04 2359791 Link 0 |
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We'll have moved onto climate lockdowns by then (OK I know I'm going off on one here guys, I'm finished with this thread lol)
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 14/07/2021 14:34:00 2359803 Link 2 |
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I can kind of see from the UK governments point of view having a tournament shared across the UK has some positive appeal, just for them to show Scotland, in particular (who have a strong pro independence movement) that everything isn't all about England. Having Ireland, a country who worldwide is associated as being in conflict with GB (it's being said to me a few times when on foreign holidays) there along with NI (the troubles were well known world wide) they probably think sounds good from a PR point of view. But I can't see how FIFA could guarantee any bid 5 spots in a world cup. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1413 - 14/07/2021 14:39:23 2359806 Link 0 |