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I'll try to explain in a few short words. For some reason Nphet are against rapid antigen testing, they are wrong on that in my opinion. So as I mentioned earlier regarding an article about Denmark. In Denmark you would arrive at the door of the restaurant, you would be able to show on an app on your phone the members of your family who have been vaccinated and that your son has had a negative test within the last 48 or 72 hours, I'm not sure if it's 48 or 72, and off you go and enjoy your meal. If none of you had been vaccinated but had tested negative then that would be also ok. Testing is free of charge and widely available. In Ireland they would have no problem arresting you and taking you down town to the cell if you blew into a "bag" on the side of the road and they didn't like the colour of the light. But let you in for a pint or a meal or go to a game, ah Jesus no, sure you couldn't trust those tests at all. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 30/06/2021 18:41:42 2354986 Link 1 |
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The biggest crowds at Euro 2020 were in the Puskas Arena in Hungary. Hungary is hardly a paragon of propriety when it comes to governing a country. It has a population of 9,000,000 approx and there have been just over 30,000 deaths from Covid. The crowd limits at Wembley have been increased at UEFA's insistence and will be increased still more for the semi finals and final once again at UEFA's insistence. This hardly seems responsible given the recent surges in cases in both England and Scotland. 62% of the adult population in The UK are now fully vaccinated. We are nowhere near that level. Your family vaccine bonus is that you and your wife can dine and drink indoors. It is far from a perfect solution but this relaxing of restrictions will further expand the opportunities for trade in our pubs and restaurants. It is not what people wanted but it goes some way towards balancing both the needs of our business community and the needs of public health. Hopefully the crowd limits at both championship and club games will also increase. I don't hold a candle for any political party or any individual politician but this has been an extremely difficult set of circumstances to manage. When I read some of the comments on internet forums and social media I realise just how many self appointed "experts" there are in this country. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 30/06/2021 18:49:36 2354988 Link 3 |
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So what's your solution? Give the keys of the place back to London is it and have a united Ireland as part of the UK? Because that is the only logical answer if the country is as much of a basket case as you claim it is. Theres a lot more right with the country than is wrong with it.. otherwise we wouldn't have net inward migration, people from all parts of Europe and the world moving here for work and many of them making this country their home and the future for their children."]For start fix the endemic cronyism in Irish politics."]"Endemic cronyism"....that's so general a term as to be meaningless. Freedom of Information on public bodies and individuals is there to expose the more blatant examples of it. But I have news for you....political cronyism is a global issue. There isn't a country in the world where cronyism of some form doesn't feature and to take just 2 examples , the US and Britain, it is a lot worse there than it is here in my opinion. Boris Johnson could give masterclasses on how to do everything for your friends and benefit yourself. But not to get bogged down on the one pretty nebulous issue you picked. We are one of the richest countries in the world per capita, even after making allowances for leprechaun economics. In the most recent World Happiness Report we are at no. 13, behind the Scandinavian and Anzac countries but ahead of the US, Canada, the UK, and France. I am reminded of the Abraham Lincoln quote. " Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be". Never was a truer word spoken. Once our most basic needs are met -- food , shelter housing, a living wage -- the rest is up to ourselves. There's a lot of people, particularly young people , not having their needs met on the housing front at the moment and that is the biggest problem we have, but thankfully most of us are lucky enough to be in houses that we call home and for those that aren't this is the issue that needs to be addressed. It's understandable that there is a lot of frustration with this never ending Covid issue and the way our opening up of society is progressing at a snails pace in comparison to the rest of the world and this is making some people only see the blackness but it is a temporary situation which will pass and I trust that in time people will gain perspective and the darkness will lift for those who are experiencing it. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 30/06/2021 19:09:13 2354994 Link 1 |
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Its worrying that the people who make policy still cant see that an airborne virus is far more dangerous in a cinema than a sports ground after the last year and a quarter......
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 30/06/2021 20:06:07 2355004 Link 3 |
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They need to explain better the small numbers allowed in to games so far. But comparing the small GAA crowds allowed to championship games to some countries isn't comparing like for like. The Euros have been years in the planning. UEFA, not without it's faults, is a 3 billion euro+ organisation, with full time professional staff and the Euros have billionaire sponsors. They quickly reacted during COVID to rearrange game schedules and pulled games out of Dublin. For whatever reason the GAA seem to have to react week to week on government advice. It's puzzling why the government and/or GAA are making some decisions but maybe it's not as easy to get volunteers for games like stewards and other security measures if the GAA are strapped for cash. Easier for UEFA to organise in grounds of professional clubs, or international venues, to motivate their staff because it's their livelihood. But I'm as confused as anyone.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 30/06/2021 21:20:39 2355022 Link 1 |
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So what's your solution? Give the keys of the place back to London is it and have a united Ireland as part of the UK? Because that is the only logical answer if the country is as much of a basket case as you claim it is. Theres a lot more right with the country than is wrong with it.. otherwise we wouldn't have net inward migration, people from all parts of Europe and the world moving here for work and many of them making this country their home and the future for their children."]For start fix the endemic cronyism in Irish politics."]"Endemic cronyism"....that's so general a term as to be meaningless. Freedom of Information on public bodies and individuals is there to expose the more blatant examples of it. But I have news for you....political cronyism is a global issue. There isn't a country in the world where cronyism of some form doesn't feature and to take just 2 examples , the US and Britain, it is a lot worse there than it is here in my opinion. Boris Johnson could give masterclasses on how to do everything for your friends and benefit yourself. But not to get bogged down on the one pretty nebulous issue you picked. We are one of the richest countries in the world per capita, even after making allowances for leprechaun economics. In the most recent World Happiness Report we are at no. 13, behind the Scandinavian and Anzac countries but ahead of the US, Canada, the UK, and France. I am reminded of the Abraham Lincoln quote. " Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be". Never was a truer word spoken. Once our most basic needs are met -- food , shelter housing, a living wage -- the rest is up to ourselves. There's a lot of people, particularly young people , not having their needs met on the housing front at the moment and that is the biggest problem we have, but thankfully most of us are lucky enough to be in houses that we call home and for those that aren't this is the issue that needs to be addressed. It's understandable that there is a lot of frustration with this never ending Covid issue and the way our opening up of society is progressing at a snails pace in comparison to the rest of the world and this is making some people only see the blackness but it is a temporary situation which will pass and I trust that in time people will gain perspective and the darkness will lift for those who are experiencing it."]Come back to me when your house is crumbling down around you due to ineptitude and non existent regulation. When your bank is insisting that you continue to pay a mortgage on a property that is worthless. When you don't know where your family is going to live when the bulldozers arrive. When you've no idea how you're going to afford to rebuild your family's home. When none of the above is any of your fault. But yeah, pontificate away on here about great a country it is we all live in. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 30/06/2021 21:24:35 2355023 Link 1 |
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So what's your solution? Give the keys of the place back to London is it and have a united Ireland as part of the UK? Because that is the only logical answer if the country is as much of a basket case as you claim it is. Theres a lot more right with the country than is wrong with it.. otherwise we wouldn't have net inward migration, people from all parts of Europe and the world moving here for work and many of them making this country their home and the future for their children."]For start fix the endemic cronyism in Irish politics."]"Endemic cronyism"....that's so general a term as to be meaningless. Freedom of Information on public bodies and individuals is there to expose the more blatant examples of it. But I have news for you....political cronyism is a global issue. There isn't a country in the world where cronyism of some form doesn't feature and to take just 2 examples , the US and Britain, it is a lot worse there than it is here in my opinion. Boris Johnson could give masterclasses on how to do everything for your friends and benefit yourself. But not to get bogged down on the one pretty nebulous issue you picked. We are one of the richest countries in the world per capita, even after making allowances for leprechaun economics. In the most recent World Happiness Report we are at no. 13, behind the Scandinavian and Anzac countries but ahead of the US, Canada, the UK, and France. I am reminded of the Abraham Lincoln quote. " Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be". Never was a truer word spoken. Once our most basic needs are met -- food , shelter housing, a living wage -- the rest is up to ourselves. There's a lot of people, particularly young people , not having their needs met on the housing front at the moment and that is the biggest problem we have, but thankfully most of us are lucky enough to be in houses that we call home and for those that aren't this is the issue that needs to be addressed. It's understandable that there is a lot of frustration with this never ending Covid issue and the way our opening up of society is progressing at a snails pace in comparison to the rest of the world and this is making some people only see the blackness but it is a temporary situation which will pass and I trust that in time people will gain perspective and the darkness will lift for those who are experiencing it."]Come back to me when your house is crumbling down around you due to ineptitude and non existent regulation. When your bank is insisting that you continue to pay a mortgage on a property that is worthless. When you don't know where your family is going to live when the bulldozers arrive. When you've no idea how you're going to afford to rebuild your family's home. When none of the above is any of your fault. But yeah, pontificate away on here about great a country it is we all live in."]The mica situation in Donegal is a disgrace and a scandal. It sounds like you and your family are one of the victims and I fully sympathise with your situation if that is the case. I hope all affected get the full compensation they deserve. I can see now where you are coming from in your point of view and anything I have said is not meant to diminish it. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 30/06/2021 21:59:17 2355034 Link 1 |
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So what's your solution? Give the keys of the place back to London is it and have a united Ireland as part of the UK? Because that is the only logical answer if the country is as much of a basket case as you claim it is. Theres a lot more right with the country than is wrong with it.. otherwise we wouldn't have net inward migration, people from all parts of Europe and the world moving here for work and many of them making this country their home and the future for their children."]For start fix the endemic cronyism in Irish politics."]"Endemic cronyism"....that's so general a term as to be meaningless. Freedom of Information on public bodies and individuals is there to expose the more blatant examples of it. But I have news for you....political cronyism is a global issue. There isn't a country in the world where cronyism of some form doesn't feature and to take just 2 examples , the US and Britain, it is a lot worse there than it is here in my opinion. Boris Johnson could give masterclasses on how to do everything for your friends and benefit yourself. But not to get bogged down on the one pretty nebulous issue you picked. We are one of the richest countries in the world per capita, even after making allowances for leprechaun economics. In the most recent World Happiness Report we are at no. 13, behind the Scandinavian and Anzac countries but ahead of the US, Canada, the UK, and France. I am reminded of the Abraham Lincoln quote. " Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be". Never was a truer word spoken. Once our most basic needs are met -- food , shelter housing, a living wage -- the rest is up to ourselves. There's a lot of people, particularly young people , not having their needs met on the housing front at the moment and that is the biggest problem we have, but thankfully most of us are lucky enough to be in houses that we call home and for those that aren't this is the issue that needs to be addressed. It's understandable that there is a lot of frustration with this never ending Covid issue and the way our opening up of society is progressing at a snails pace in comparison to the rest of the world and this is making some people only see the blackness but it is a temporary situation which will pass and I trust that in time people will gain perspective and the darkness will lift for those who are experiencing it."]Come back to me when your house is crumbling down around you due to ineptitude and non existent regulation. When your bank is insisting that you continue to pay a mortgage on a property that is worthless. When you don't know where your family is going to live when the bulldozers arrive. When you've no idea how you're going to afford to rebuild your family's home. When none of the above is any of your fault. But yeah, pontificate away on here about great a country it is we all live in."]Poor you... So whose fault is it then? Not sure how much this has to do with Covid. Anyhow its amazing the amount of pub talk thats going on and not a pub in sight. A lot of ye remind me of those head the balls that are expert in everything at midnight in a pub. Maybe there is too much drinking going on at home, Slainte!!! ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 30/06/2021 22:50:53 2355047 Link 2 |
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So what's your solution? Give the keys of the place back to London is it and have a united Ireland as part of the UK? Because that is the only logical answer if the country is as much of a basket case as you claim it is. Theres a lot more right with the country than is wrong with it.. otherwise we wouldn't have net inward migration, people from all parts of Europe and the world moving here for work and many of them making this country their home and the future for their children."]For start fix the endemic cronyism in Irish politics."]"Endemic cronyism"....that's so general a term as to be meaningless. Freedom of Information on public bodies and individuals is there to expose the more blatant examples of it. But I have news for you....political cronyism is a global issue. There isn't a country in the world where cronyism of some form doesn't feature and to take just 2 examples , the US and Britain, it is a lot worse there than it is here in my opinion. Boris Johnson could give masterclasses on how to do everything for your friends and benefit yourself. But not to get bogged down on the one pretty nebulous issue you picked. We are one of the richest countries in the world per capita, even after making allowances for leprechaun economics. In the most recent World Happiness Report we are at no. 13, behind the Scandinavian and Anzac countries but ahead of the US, Canada, the UK, and France. I am reminded of the Abraham Lincoln quote. " Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be". Never was a truer word spoken. Once our most basic needs are met -- food , shelter housing, a living wage -- the rest is up to ourselves. There's a lot of people, particularly young people , not having their needs met on the housing front at the moment and that is the biggest problem we have, but thankfully most of us are lucky enough to be in houses that we call home and for those that aren't this is the issue that needs to be addressed. It's understandable that there is a lot of frustration with this never ending Covid issue and the way our opening up of society is progressing at a snails pace in comparison to the rest of the world and this is making some people only see the blackness but it is a temporary situation which will pass and I trust that in time people will gain perspective and the darkness will lift for those who are experiencing it."]Come back to me when your house is crumbling down around you due to ineptitude and non existent regulation. When your bank is insisting that you continue to pay a mortgage on a property that is worthless. When you don't know where your family is going to live when the bulldozers arrive. When you've no idea how you're going to afford to rebuild your family's home. When none of the above is any of your fault. But yeah, pontificate away on here about great a country it is we all live in."]Poor you... So whose fault is it then? Not sure how much this has to do with Covid. Anyhow its amazing the amount of pub talk thats going on and not a pub in sight. A lot of ye remind me of those head the balls that are expert in everything at midnight in a pub. Maybe there is too much drinking going on at home, Slainte!!!"]A disgraceful post. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 30/06/2021 23:09:15 2355050 Link 3 |
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So what's your solution? Give the keys of the place back to London is it and have a united Ireland as part of the UK? Because that is the only logical answer if the country is as much of a basket case as you claim it is. Theres a lot more right with the country than is wrong with it.. otherwise we wouldn't have net inward migration, people from all parts of Europe and the world moving here for work and many of them making this country their home and the future for their children."]For start fix the endemic cronyism in Irish politics."]"Endemic cronyism"....that's so general a term as to be meaningless. Freedom of Information on public bodies and individuals is there to expose the more blatant examples of it. But I have news for you....political cronyism is a global issue. There isn't a country in the world where cronyism of some form doesn't feature and to take just 2 examples , the US and Britain, it is a lot worse there than it is here in my opinion. Boris Johnson could give masterclasses on how to do everything for your friends and benefit yourself. But not to get bogged down on the one pretty nebulous issue you picked. We are one of the richest countries in the world per capita, even after making allowances for leprechaun economics. In the most recent World Happiness Report we are at no. 13, behind the Scandinavian and Anzac countries but ahead of the US, Canada, the UK, and France. I am reminded of the Abraham Lincoln quote. " Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be". Never was a truer word spoken. Once our most basic needs are met -- food , shelter housing, a living wage -- the rest is up to ourselves. There's a lot of people, particularly young people , not having their needs met on the housing front at the moment and that is the biggest problem we have, but thankfully most of us are lucky enough to be in houses that we call home and for those that aren't this is the issue that needs to be addressed. It's understandable that there is a lot of frustration with this never ending Covid issue and the way our opening up of society is progressing at a snails pace in comparison to the rest of the world and this is making some people only see the blackness but it is a temporary situation which will pass and I trust that in time people will gain perspective and the darkness will lift for those who are experiencing it."]Come back to me when your house is crumbling down around you due to ineptitude and non existent regulation. When your bank is insisting that you continue to pay a mortgage on a property that is worthless. When you don't know where your family is going to live when the bulldozers arrive. When you've no idea how you're going to afford to rebuild your family's home. When none of the above is any of your fault. But yeah, pontificate away on here about great a country it is we all live in."]Poor you... So whose fault is it then? Not sure how much this has to do with Covid. Anyhow its amazing the amount of pub talk thats going on and not a pub in sight. A lot of ye remind me of those head the balls that are expert in everything at midnight in a pub. Maybe there is too much drinking going on at home, Slainte!!!"]Nasty response. People's homes and families lives have been devastated and the best you can come out with is "Poor you." Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 30/06/2021 23:11:18 2355053 Link 1 |
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Northern Ireland covid cases are climbing drastically. They are gone ahead of the republic. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 30/06/2021 23:21:09 2355057 Link 4 |
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I'd understood the cautious approach by and large in the last 6 months but seeing the crowds at the Euros in countries with similar vaccine roll outs e.g. Denmark was an eye opener, yesterday was the final straw, NPHET clearly drunk on power, unelected civil servants running the country not accountable to anyone. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 01/07/2021 01:17:35 2355066 Link 3 |
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One of factors in GAA being short straw in all of this has been the media. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2557 - 01/07/2021 09:27:05 2355080 Link 2 |
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Think you are right there Wexico. NPHET advise, Government decide, but it looks the other way round.
MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 01/07/2021 10:18:28 2355092 Link 0 |
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What's your point Barney?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 01/07/2021 10:33:48 2355094 Link 1 |
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My point is that GAA went along with ban on our competitions that did not apply to others. Not unique in that. The lockdown is replete with examples of some sectors being targeted and others not. I'm just referring to the GAA and contradiction between gaelic games and others. FAI women's did not even have the spurious basis that it is professional. The fact that this state is now unique in crowd restrictions is not justified by any evidence from anywhere. Even the model they are using for the extension on hospitality has now been shown to be flawed. So-called mathematical modellers who "forgot" to input one of the key data!! these people have no authority to be running the state. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2557 - 01/07/2021 10:59:42 2355101 Link 3 |
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It's hard to know what anybody's point is here with all the endless quoting, then you have the African troll twit putting posts in BOLD, it's like trying to decipher NPHETS advice. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 01/07/2021 11:28:30 2355108 Link 1 |
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to be fair i dont mind the bold posts. It does show how badly formatted the forum is. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 01/07/2021 13:09:07 2355130 Link 0 |
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Well obviously you're going to stick up for Africangael, you're the same guy.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 01/07/2021 13:47:11 2355138 Link 3 |
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What has Claire Byrne or Montrose got to do with your theory?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 01/07/2021 13:51:30 2355140 Link 1 |