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Replying To carlowman: " Replying To Galway9801: "[quote=carlowman: "[quote=AfricanGael: "Not good, but definitely not illegal." I think the fella on the radio today who spoke about publicans taking advice from the doctors hit the nail on the head. Who should we take advice from.... the publican or the doctor ? People need to wake up. The reality is that NPHET painted a very dim picture if we allow pubs etc to open. Advice has been given and is being followed. Think back to Christmas and January and Feb... leave us have a Christmas people said and look what happened... disaster almost with all of us having family or friends dying. Enough said. I think we can spend a little.more.time outside of the pitch for county matches and it will be worth ut if we can lead a.more normal.life later. And by the way, the pub can wait as well. Times are changing and the pub as we know it is changing.... we won't be visiting it as often as in the past even when they do reopen."
Irelands mortality rate for 2020 was 1% higher than 2019, yet in that year apparently almost all of us have watched family or friends die?
I don't know anyone who even got ill from it, and I don't know anyone who knows anyone who died from it, so stop talking rubbish."]Things must be great in the West ! I know 5 people who have died.. I know at least 25 who have gotten it. Three who have had long covid and continue to suffer total lack of energy, headaches etc. Not very nice.. And do you know something... I don't get out that often. Perhaps you should count yourself lucky.
So, please leave out the rubbish."]I don't know anyone who died from it so there you go.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 29/06/2021 21:16:59
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Replying To Marooning: "Tonight I can go to the gym with sweat excretions flying everywhere. Tomorrow it could be the cinema. For the remainder of the week I could book a nice two night stay in a hotel and use their packed bar facilities right up to three am If I wanted. But what I really want this week is a ticket to see the Westmeath hurlers down in Carlow on Saturday or the big one, only over the road, with the Laois footballers on the Sunday. O Connor Park must hold twenty thousand and the powers that be dictate that only two hundred can apply for that golden ticket. These and rightly so will be given to the players involved. Good God, this crowd of only 200 does not make any kind of sense. Acres of space with not a soul around. Are the GAA kicking up any kind of fuss on the matter? Or are the lunatics, at last, really running the asylum?" Here is the contact details for the Minister of Sport , Jack Chambers.
Dept of Sport - 01 6933393
[email protected]
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 29/06/2021 21:35:24
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Replying To Rolo2010: "England and the North are doing fine. You can sit inside a pub and have a drink. Added benefit of not getting ripped off as well." 20000 cases in gb today, thats doing fine? ok
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 29/06/2021 21:38:51
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Replying To Rolo2010: "England and the North are doing fine. You can sit inside a pub and have a drink. Added benefit of not getting ripped off as well." 20000 cases in gb today, thats doing fine? ok
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 29/06/2021 21:40:12
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Replying To carlowman: " Replying To AfricanGael: "Not good, but definitely not illegal." I think the fella on the radio today who spoke about publicans taking advice from the doctors hit the nail on the head. Who should we take advice from.... the publican or the doctor ? People need to wake up. The reality is that NPHET painted a very dim picture if we allow pubs etc to open. Advice has been given and is being followed. Think back to Christmas and January and Feb... leave us have a Christmas people said and look what happened... disaster almost with all of us having family or friends dying. Enough said. I think we can spend a little.more.time outside of the pitch for county matches and it will be worth ut if we can lead a.more normal.life later. And by the way, the pub can wait as well. Times are changing and the pub as we know it is changing.... we won't be visiting it as often as in the past even when they do reopen."
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 29/06/2021 22:03:33
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Replying To Rolo2010: " Replying To carlowman: "[quote=Galway9801: "[quote=carlowman: "[quote=AfricanGael: "Not good, but definitely not illegal." I think the fella on the radio today who spoke about publicans taking advice from the doctors hit the nail on the head. Who should we take advice from.... the publican or the doctor ? People need to wake up. The reality is that NPHET painted a very dim picture if we allow pubs etc to open. Advice has been given and is being followed. Think back to Christmas and January and Feb... leave us have a Christmas people said and look what happened... disaster almost with all of us having family or friends dying. Enough said. I think we can spend a little.more.time outside of the pitch for county matches and it will be worth ut if we can lead a.more normal.life later. And by the way, the pub can wait as well. Times are changing and the pub as we know it is changing.... we won't be visiting it as often as in the past even when they do reopen."
Irelands mortality rate for 2020 was 1% higher than 2019, yet in that year apparently almost all of us have watched family or friends die?
I don't know anyone who even got ill from it, and I don't know anyone who knows anyone who died from it, so stop talking rubbish."]Things must be great in the West ! I know 5 people who have died.. I know at least 25 who have gotten it. Three who have had long covid and continue to suffer total lack of energy, headaches etc. Not very nice.. And do you know something... I don't get out that often. Perhaps you should count yourself lucky.
So, please leave out the rubbish."]I don't know anyone who died from it so there you go."]Neither do I. But almost all of us have family or friends dying.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 29/06/2021 22:04:47
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Replying To AfricanGael: "Is there anything the Irish in Ireland can get right, I'm being serious now. Must be the greatest people in the world who can emigrate to other countries, do well and are sought after, yet those who stayed at home have made an absolute balls of the country.
So don't be surprised by what's happening now, no doubt I'll be vilified once again by the usual mob of deniers who are happy enough to accept the pathetic standards in so many walks of life in Ireland.
Let's call it what it is, a shambles of a country." Ye know what to do then, stay in Africa or uk and keep your nose out of Irelands affairs.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 29/06/2021 22:32:01
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Replying To SurelyToGod: " Replying To Galway9801: "[quote=carlowman: "[quote=AfricanGael: "Not good, but definitely not illegal." I think the fella on the radio today who spoke about publicans taking advice from the doctors hit the nail on the head. Who should we take advice from.... the publican or the doctor ? People need to wake up. The reality is that NPHET painted a very dim picture if we allow pubs etc to open. Advice has been given and is being followed. Think back to Christmas and January and Feb... leave us have a Christmas people said and look what happened... disaster almost with all of us having family or friends dying. Enough said. I think we can spend a little.more.time outside of the pitch for county matches and it will be worth ut if we can lead a.more normal.life later. And by the way, the pub can wait as well. Times are changing and the pub as we know it is changing.... we won't be visiting it as often as in the past even when they do reopen."
Irelands mortality rate for 2020 was 1% higher than 2019, yet in that year apparently almost all of us have watched family or friends die?
I don't know anyone who even got ill from it, and I don't know anyone who knows anyone who died from it, so stop talking rubbish."]Almost everybody I know knows someone who has died from it. I know a number of people belonging to me have.
We lost almost 5000 people in the Republic to COVID-19, and pessimistic predictions would model that we could lose 2000 more to the delta variant."]Correction.
Almost 5000 people have had covid registered as the cause of their deaths,, not the same as dying from covid,, and delta variant or no delta variant, we're going to lose an awful lot more than 2000 this year, close to 35 000 people die in Ireland, every year, covid or no covid, the vast majority of whom are in a physically vulnerable state.
You'd be forgiven for thinking that prior to 2020 no one with underlying health problems had ever died before.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 29/06/2021 22:51:40
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The country is been run by bureaucrats and Civil servants who are all on huge money and bonuses the longer this madness goes on… Our vaccine roll out has been a total joke… Everything should be opened up at this stage… we will have to learn to live with Covid and it's different variants because it's going nowhere…. A government flapping around afraid to make decisions but a Government that hopefully pays a huge price come the next general election…!!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 29/06/2021 23:27:26
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Replying To Galway9801: " Replying To carlowman: "[quote=AfricanGael: "Not good, but definitely not illegal." I think the fella on the radio today who spoke about publicans taking advice from the doctors hit the nail on the head. Who should we take advice from.... the publican or the doctor ? People need to wake up. The reality is that NPHET painted a very dim picture if we allow pubs etc to open. Advice has been given and is being followed. Think back to Christmas and January and Feb... leave us have a Christmas people said and look what happened... disaster almost with all of us having family or friends dying. Enough said. I think we can spend a little.more.time outside of the pitch for county matches and it will be worth ut if we can lead a.more normal.life later. And by the way, the pub can wait as well. Times are changing and the pub as we know it is changing.... we won't be visiting it as often as in the past even when they do reopen."
Irelands mortality rate for 2020 was 1% higher than 2019, yet in that year apparently almost all of us have watched family or friends die?
I don't know anyone who even got ill from it, and I don't know anyone who knows anyone who died from it, so stop talking rubbish."]I know plenty of people who were ill as a result of Covid. Some were not seriously ill. Others were seriously ill but have recovered. Others are still suffering from the effects of Covid. Sadly I also knew people who have passed away. Whilst the mortality rate only increased by 1% in 2020 what would have happened had there been no restrictions? Bear in mind there were very few deaths from the flu in 2020. Was that because of the emphasis on hand hygiene, the wearing of masks and less social interaction. Bear in mind also that the number of deaths from Covid increased significantly in the early part of this year despite the very strict lockdown. What would the figures have been without lockdown? The population of Norway and Finland combined is almost the same as the population of Sweden. Norway and Finland both operated lockdowns. The combined number of fatalities from Covid in Norway and Finland to date is 1,761.Sweden didn't operate lockdowns. The death toll from Covid in Sweden is 14,588. You do the Maths.
NPHET warned the government about the risks of lifting the restrictions at Christmas time. The government bowed to public pressure and lifted the restrictions. Look where that got us. Allowing indoor dining and drinking for those who are fully vaccinated is not perfect. However it does allow restaurants and pubs to open to a greater extent than they have been able to heretofore. Hopefully the roll out of the vaccines will continue and normality will be restored. There will be 8,000 in Croker on Sunday. That is another step in the right direction. I agree that 200 people at championship matches is ridiculous. Those limitations on attendances are far too severe. Wembley was half full tonight. The reason the capacity was increased tonight at Wembley was because UEFA threatened to move the semi finals and final away from Wembley unless attendance levels were increased significantly. UEFA has never been a hotbed of principled governance.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 29/06/2021 23:47:06
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Replying To Stmunnsriver: "20000 cases in gb today, thats doing fine? ok" 2000 cases in a nation of about 70 million, and those cases have a 99 % recovery rate (probably way more), considering over 1000 people die in England per day from other things id say yeah, let's not panic (although one thing covid has taught us is that many people love to panic)
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 29/06/2021 23:53:52
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Replying To carlowman: " Replying To AfricanGael: "Not good, but definitely not illegal." I think the fella on the radio today who spoke about publicans taking advice from the doctors hit the nail on the head. Who should we take advice from.... the publican or the doctor ? People need to wake up. The reality is that NPHET painted a very dim picture if we allow pubs etc to open. Advice has been given and is being followed. Think back to Christmas and January and Feb... leave us have a Christmas people said and look what happened... disaster almost with all of us having family or friends dying. Enough said. I think we can spend a little.more.time outside of the pitch for county matches and it will be worth ut if we can lead a.more normal.life later. And by the way, the pub can wait as well. Times are changing and the pub as we know it is changing.... we won't be visiting it as often as in the past even when they do reopen."
achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 562 - 30/06/2021 01:38:48
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Replying To galwayford: "Here is the contact details for the Minister of Sport , Jack Chambers. Dept of Sport - 01 6933393 [email protected]"
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 30/06/2021 07:58:26
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Replying To carlowman: "To be honest I don't think we should be modelling ourselves on England. I think i would rather follow the advice of the medical experts and the modelling that they have done. Reading the front page of the Indo tlday was enough for me. Have a look...
Our medical experts on NPHET have been very accurate to date. 7 or 8 euro will get you the game on tv. And yes it woukd be great to be back at the match but that will happen in time.
Voting out a government on the basis of not getting your own way wont really do it at the polls.
Of course we would all like to be out at matches but aren't we lucky to have the games at all ?" Firstly I'm not denying covid is a serious issue, in case I'm giving off that impression, I'm all for precautions. The vast majority of the population will have the cop-on to take the proper precautions to protect themselves from the virus. But also I think the numbers have being exaggerated by nephet, I know alot of people with family members who went into hospital with cancer and heart issues and their causes of death was put down as a covid death.
There has being plenty of medical experts challenging lockdowns and the strategies of battling and treating covid-19 and they have being attacked and vilified by nephet, the government and the media.
What the Irish public have to put up with is too much and when does quality of life come into it. The next thing is the cost, on newstalk they are saying the cost of lockdowns to the economy during the pandemic could be a 1/4 of a trillion euros, I lived through 1 recession in my 20's, I certainly don't want to live through another 1 in my 30's now I have a family to think about as well as myself. How many deaths will that bring about from suicide, stress and depression.
But in fairness to you, you have a point about voting out the government for who Sinn Fein, social democrats or people before profit, the thoughts of any of them in government makes me feel sick.
DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 30/06/2021 10:08:34
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The ignorance of some posters on here in relation to the existence of covid, never mind the dangers it can pose is palpable.
A few posters on here telling us that they don't know anyone who became really ill or died from covid, and instead of being glad of that fact they use it as a tool to deny the virus is nasty and dangerous and has killed millions worldwide.
For them the world ends at the last saloon of their rural hick town.
Posting absolutely useless statistics in relation to excess mortality figures, with zero context.
What's the first thing they do when the Government announce a limited form of reopening ? They tell you it's potentially illegal and they'll sue, typical Irish compo culture.
Not happy being an armchair doctor, they want to be the armchair lawyer now as well.
It's what you call an Irish "know all".
I watched something last night where they have a similar system in Denmark where they allow fully vaccinated or people with a recent negative test into bars and restaurants etc.
Works fine and not a hint of a court case, but the Danes are mature, grown up and sensible and not the hick town hillbillies of Europe.
I used to wonder when Europeans used to joke that Ireland was where all the Hillbillies of Europe lived, maybe they were right after all.
Anyone who doesn't know anyone who either became very ill and ended up in hospital or died from Covid at this stage must have an awful small circle of friends and judging by their posts and display of sheer ignorance I can't say I'm surprised at that.
A shambles of a country.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 30/06/2021 10:24:28
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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 30/06/2021 10:26:45
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Replying To AfricanGael: "The ignorance of some posters on here in relation to the existence of covid, never mind the dangers it can pose is palpable.
A few posters on here telling us that they don't know anyone who became really ill or died from covid, and instead of being glad of that fact they use it as a tool to deny the virus is nasty and dangerous and has killed millions worldwide.
For them the world ends at the last saloon of their rural hick town.
Posting absolutely useless statistics in relation to excess mortality figures, with zero context.
What's the first thing they do when the Government announce a limited form of reopening ? They tell you it's potentially illegal and they'll sue, typical Irish compo culture.
Not happy being an armchair doctor, they want to be the armchair lawyer now as well.
It's what you call an Irish "know all".
I watched something last night where they have a similar system in Denmark where they allow fully vaccinated or people with a recent negative test into bars and restaurants etc.
Works fine and not a hint of a court case, but the Danes are mature, grown up and sensible and not the hick town hillbillies of Europe.
I used to wonder when Europeans used to joke that Ireland was where all the Hillbillies of Europe lived, maybe they were right after all.
Anyone who doesn't know anyone who either became very ill and ended up in hospital or died from Covid at this stage must have an awful small circle of friends and judging by their posts and display of sheer ignorance I can't say I'm surprised at that.
A shambles of a country." Such self hatred!
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 30/06/2021 10:33:34
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Replying To AfricanGael: "The ignorance of some posters on here in relation to the existence of covid, never mind the dangers it can pose is palpable.
A few posters on here telling us that they don't know anyone who became really ill or died from covid, and instead of being glad of that fact they use it as a tool to deny the virus is nasty and dangerous and has killed millions worldwide.
For them the world ends at the last saloon of their rural hick town.
Posting absolutely useless statistics in relation to excess mortality figures, with zero context.
What's the first thing they do when the Government announce a limited form of reopening ? They tell you it's potentially illegal and they'll sue, typical Irish compo culture.
Not happy being an armchair doctor, they want to be the armchair lawyer now as well.
It's what you call an Irish "know all".
I watched something last night where they have a similar system in Denmark where they allow fully vaccinated or people with a recent negative test into bars and restaurants etc.
Works fine and not a hint of a court case, but the Danes are mature, grown up and sensible and not the hick town hillbillies of Europe.
I used to wonder when Europeans used to joke that Ireland was where all the Hillbillies of Europe lived, maybe they were right after all.
Anyone who doesn't know anyone who either became very ill and ended up in hospital or died from Covid at this stage must have an awful small circle of friends and judging by their posts and display of sheer ignorance I can't say I'm surprised at that.
A shambles of a country." Snooze.
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Such self hatred!" is that you Catch22, have you another new account?
this African twat is a troll who won't even say were she is from so just ignore the troll.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 30/06/2021 10:55:39
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Replying To AfricanGael: "The ignorance of some posters on here in relation to the existence of covid, never mind the dangers it can pose is palpable.
A few posters on here telling us that they don't know anyone who became really ill or died from covid, and instead of being glad of that fact they use it as a tool to deny the virus is nasty and dangerous and has killed millions worldwide.
For them the world ends at the last saloon of their rural hick town.
Posting absolutely useless statistics in relation to excess mortality figures, with zero context.
What's the first thing they do when the Government announce a limited form of reopening ? They tell you it's potentially illegal and they'll sue, typical Irish compo culture.
Not happy being an armchair doctor, they want to be the armchair lawyer now as well.
It's what you call an Irish "know all".
I watched something last night where they have a similar system in Denmark where they allow fully vaccinated or people with a recent negative test into bars and restaurants etc.
Works fine and not a hint of a court case, but the Danes are mature, grown up and sensible and not the hick town hillbillies of Europe.
I used to wonder when Europeans used to joke that Ireland was where all the Hillbillies of Europe lived, maybe they were right after all.
Anyone who doesn't know anyone who either became very ill and ended up in hospital or died from Covid at this stage must have an awful small circle of friends and judging by their posts and display of sheer ignorance I can't say I'm surprised at that.
A shambles of a country." I don't think using the internet makes you happy.
Maybe take a little rest from it, good sir?
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