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What would people think of allowing 3 video reviews per match?
I'm thinking only of certain situations here
1. Penalties
2. Game deciding moments (e.g. like Limerick a few years ago)
3. Off the ball incidents.
4. Ball over the goal or point line (e.g. Waterford a few years ago).

The decision can only be overturned if there is irrefutable evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.

If you win it, you hold on to your challenge. If you lose it, you lose it.

Be up to coaches to use them wisely, and only challenge what they think they will win. And probably most would hold on to the last one for the game deciding incident.

I'm not thinking every pull or drag or held arm be reviewed. And exactly what can be reviewed is. Challenge flag down, TMO called, "can you review X and confirm the decision on the field". Yes/No, job done.

I know people will argue it'll slow the game down - the game is already slowed down monumentally by the nee naw brigade.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1613 - 04/06/2021 16:29:37    2348241

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "What would people think of allowing 3 video reviews per match?
I'm thinking only of certain situations here
1. Penalties
2. Game deciding moments (e.g. like Limerick a few years ago)
3. Off the ball incidents.
4. Ball over the goal or point line (e.g. Waterford a few years ago).

The decision can only be overturned if there is irrefutable evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.

If you win it, you hold on to your challenge. If you lose it, you lose it.

Be up to coaches to use them wisely, and only challenge what they think they will win. And probably most would hold on to the last one for the game deciding incident.

I'm not thinking every pull or drag or held arm be reviewed. And exactly what can be reviewed is. Challenge flag down, TMO called, "can you review X and confirm the decision on the field". Yes/No, job done.

I know people will argue it'll slow the game down - the game is already slowed down monumentally by the nee naw brigade."
Are you crazy?

3 per team is 6 stoppages for at least 1min every match. It would completely ruin the flow of the game,

One could have a review just to slow the game down!

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 187 - 04/06/2021 19:40:25    2348269

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That could be a recipe for disaster, its hard enough for officials to officiate games as they are, teams could take the total mick out of it to break momentum and slow things down.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1684 - 04/06/2021 20:38:33    2348279

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "What would people think of allowing 3 video reviews per match?
I'm thinking only of certain situations here
1. Penalties
2. Game deciding moments (e.g. like Limerick a few years ago)
3. Off the ball incidents.
4. Ball over the goal or point line (e.g. Waterford a few years ago).

The decision can only be overturned if there is irrefutable evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.

If you win it, you hold on to your challenge. If you lose it, you lose it.

Be up to coaches to use them wisely, and only challenge what they think they will win. And probably most would hold on to the last one for the game deciding incident.

I'm not thinking every pull or drag or held arm be reviewed. And exactly what can be reviewed is. Challenge flag down, TMO called, "can you review X and confirm the decision on the field". Yes/No, job done.

I know people will argue it'll slow the game down - the game is already slowed down monumentally by the nee naw brigade."
So you want to slow it down even more? Are you suggesting that a successful challenge means that you still have 3 challenges even if you use 1 successfully? This idea well intentioned as it is should be a non starter.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5796 - 04/06/2021 21:59:50    2348311

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Why do we need all this video evidence nonsense if we have already got 7 pairs of eyes trained on the players at all times..? Are these 7 deemed numpty's or completely blind or what.....? All 7 officials for inter county games should be trained referees and not the referees best mate he might have dragged out of the pub from the night before...!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 980 - 05/06/2021 08:37:00    2348349

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Of the 7 pairs of eyes, it seems 6 of them are not able to decide anything.
When was there last a passage of play where the physio wasn't on after it? It doesn't happen. No reason why a ref can't be checking a decision while a physio is on.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1613 - 05/06/2021 13:14:35    2348398

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Of the 7 pairs of eyes, it seems 6 of them are not able to decide anything.
When was there last a passage of play where the physio wasn't on after it? It doesn't happen. No reason why a ref can't be checking a decision while a physio is on."
Exactly right - don't listen to the dinosaurs. Nothing wrong with the eyesight of linemen and umpires, they just lack courage. Culture of kow-towing to refs. Contrast rugby where ref explains what he's doing; in our games, it's all high and mighty sign language with no explanations and you're a villain if you ask for an explanation for a crackers decision.

3 challenges, heck, Veen 2 challenges, max - whether successful or not, couple of challenges would sort out a lot of the horrible and unfair decisions such as that Meath "goal" v Louth a few years ago.

Isn't it odd how "keeping the game moving" is far more important than fairness and the right result.

If some of these posters were judges, they'd have people running through the courtroom to keep things moving and deciding cases with a flip of a coin. Might be a few people in jail wrongly, but hey the process would be v efficient lol

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 05/06/2021 13:42:38    2348403

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "What would people think of allowing 3 video reviews per match?
I'm thinking only of certain situations here
1. Penalties
2. Game deciding moments (e.g. like Limerick a few years ago)
3. Off the ball incidents.
4. Ball over the goal or point line (e.g. Waterford a few years ago).

The decision can only be overturned if there is irrefutable evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.

If you win it, you hold on to your challenge. If you lose it, you lose it.

Be up to coaches to use them wisely, and only challenge what they think they will win. And probably most would hold on to the last one for the game deciding incident.

I'm not thinking every pull or drag or held arm be reviewed. And exactly what can be reviewed is. Challenge flag down, TMO called, "can you review X and confirm the decision on the field". Yes/No, job done.

I know people will argue it'll slow the game down - the game is already slowed down monumentally by the nee naw brigade."
This not Premier League soccer Who is going to pay for all this? Cameras and all the technology required for this would need to be at every game, whether they are being shown on TV or not. You can't have video reviews at some games, and not at others.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1863 - 05/06/2021 13:56:37    2348406

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Of the 7 pairs of eyes, it seems 6 of them are not able to decide anything.
When was there last a passage of play where the physio wasn't on after it? It doesn't happen. No reason why a ref can't be checking a decision while a physio is on."
The problem isn't the technology, it's the clowns monitoring it.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 05/06/2021 14:07:41    2348410

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No, just no.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1481 - 05/06/2021 14:37:39    2348416

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Of the 7 pairs of eyes, it seems 6 of them are not able to decide anything.
When was there last a passage of play where the physio wasn't on after it? It doesn't happen. No reason why a ref can't be checking a decision while a physio is on."
Nah. You're clutching at straws. It's a non runner.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5796 - 05/06/2021 17:27:13    2348460

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "What would people think of allowing 3 video reviews per match?
I'm thinking only of certain situations here
1. Penalties
2. Game deciding moments (e.g. like Limerick a few years ago)
3. Off the ball incidents.
4. Ball over the goal or point line (e.g. Waterford a few years ago).

The decision can only be overturned if there is irrefutable evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.

If you win it, you hold on to your challenge. If you lose it, you lose it.

Be up to coaches to use them wisely, and only challenge what they think they will win. And probably most would hold on to the last one for the game deciding incident.

I'm not thinking every pull or drag or held arm be reviewed. And exactly what can be reviewed is. Challenge flag down, TMO called, "can you review X and confirm the decision on the field". Yes/No, job done.

I know people will argue it'll slow the game down - the game is already slowed down monumentally by the nee naw brigade."
Yeah definitely.

No reason not to have video refs at games where there are cameras already there.

Would cut out some daft decisions such as when Meath won Leinster in 2010.

Decisions against my own county might be Dublin player picking ball off the ground in scoring distance at the very end of 2016 AI draw, or Bernard Brogan throwing the ball for someone to palm in in 2015 replay, there's probably a host of decisions that went against Mayo down in Limerick in 2014.

I'm sure everyone can remember a few big game turning moments that went against their county, maybe not too many for lol.

You wouldn't even need to give teams a certain amount of challenges. Just have video refs looking at the game and they can flag whatever with the ref with a mic.

jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 95 - 05/06/2021 18:26:13    2348473

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Nah. You're clutching at straws. It's a non runner."
So you reckon Joe Sheridan's goal v Louth in that Leinster Final should not have been challenged? I know nothing about Louth but I would suspect a video review could have changed the course of football in Louth?
By the time that ref ran in to the umpire, he could have got the TMO to check.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1613 - 05/06/2021 21:49:34    2348532

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "This not Premier League soccer Who is going to pay for all this? Cameras and all the technology required for this would need to be at every game, whether they are being shown on TV or not. You can't have video reviews at some games, and not at others."
Oh come off it, I'm not saying have 10 cameras at every match. I'm saying for inter county matches, where there is a minimum of 4 cameras probably, check whatever is available. It would cost hardly anything.
If none of them show anything to contradict the decision, on the game goes.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1613 - 05/06/2021 21:51:27    2348534

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh come off it, I'm not saying have 10 cameras at every match. I'm saying for inter county matches, where there is a minimum of 4 cameras probably, check whatever is available. It would cost hardly anything.
If none of them show anything to contradict the decision, on the game goes."
so one system for a galway v limerick game different one for a louth v leitrim game? good luck with that one

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2358 - 05/06/2021 22:36:30    2348554

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh come off it, I'm not saying have 10 cameras at every match. I'm saying for inter county matches, where there is a minimum of 4 cameras probably, check whatever is available. It would cost hardly anything.
If none of them show anything to contradict the decision, on the game goes."
so one system for a galway v limerick game different one for a louth v leitrim game? good luck with that one

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2358 - 05/06/2021 22:36:30    2348555

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh come off it, I'm not saying have 10 cameras at every match. I'm saying for inter county matches, where there is a minimum of 4 cameras probably, check whatever is available. It would cost hardly anything.
If none of them show anything to contradict the decision, on the game goes."
4 cameras will pick up very little and not making it near worthwhile

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 2729 - 06/06/2021 00:21:27    2348572

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2 challenges per game. No extra video ref is needed. Just the game ref going to the sideline and having a look. It would cut out the extra video ref which blights VAR. Very similar to American football.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1697 - 06/06/2021 07:42:45    2348576

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "So you reckon Joe Sheridan's goal v Louth in that Leinster Final should not have been challenged? I know nothing about Louth but I would suspect a video review could have changed the course of football in Louth?
By the time that ref ran in to the umpire, he could have got the TMO to check."
Let's be honest here, the Paparazzi wouldn't get a look in that day, there was more recordings of Big Joe's Goal than there was of Trump leaving the white house for the last time.

Wasn't Big Joes nose touching the umpires boot as the ball crossed the line, what more evidence does anyone want, -

it wasn't for lack of evidence or camera work that the goal should have been disallowed, rather was it lack of fair play action from Croke Park officials at the highest level.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2608 - 06/06/2021 10:43:34    2348596

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh come off it, I'm not saying have 10 cameras at every match. I'm saying for inter county matches, where there is a minimum of 4 cameras probably, check whatever is available. It would cost hardly anything.
If none of them show anything to contradict the decision, on the game goes."
Who provides the cameras?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5796 - 06/06/2021 10:53:38    2348598

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