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Watched it last night. Tyrone were going through the motions. Kerry will be aware of that

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1057 - 13/06/2021 10:03:14    2350097

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I would nt lose hope Fridge. Better for the weaknesses to be found now rather than the championship. One little thing could change things alot. I genuinely think Tyrone can win Ulster. There was no intensity today either. P. S. Wishing Darragh Canavan a speedy recovery. Hope the injury not serious."
To win Ulster, Tyrone would need to make an Ulster final for the first time since 2017.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 14/06/2021 12:55:04    2350735

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I enjoyed Keane's comments after the match though - "if you took the goals out of the game there wasn't a whole pile in the scoreboard at the end". Reminded me of the story about the Cork soccer fan in the 70s, who, after Cork was beat 6-0 by some top Eastern European crowd, was reportedly heard to say:
"Six nil? Ah, doesn't mean anything, just 6 lucky breaks". You gotta admire that level of optimism lol.
Reminds me of Mick O'Dwyer in the 70s who always could find something gracious to say about the team they had just hockeyed. You know your team is on the slide when your opponents are being nice to you lol

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 14/06/2021 13:43:50    2350773

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Replying To essmac:  "I enjoyed Keane's comments after the match though - "if you took the goals out of the game there wasn't a whole pile in the scoreboard at the end". Reminded me of the story about the Cork soccer fan in the 70s, who, after Cork was beat 6-0 by some top Eastern European crowd, was reportedly heard to say:
"Six nil? Ah, doesn't mean anything, just 6 lucky breaks". You gotta admire that level of optimism lol.
Reminds me of Mick O'Dwyer in the 70s who always could find something gracious to say about the team they had just hockeyed. You know your team is on the slide when your opponents are being nice to you lol"
PK is under massive pressure essmac and he trying to hide it behind a bit of old soft talk, don't take any notice of him because we don't.

Fergal Logan and Brian Dooher have a lot of work to do and changeing a system that ye had for donkeys years is hard work and they're probably only 7-8 weeks in.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/06/2021 14:01:37    2350788

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Replying To essmac:  "I enjoyed Keane's comments after the match though - "if you took the goals out of the game there wasn't a whole pile in the scoreboard at the end". Reminded me of the story about the Cork soccer fan in the 70s, who, after Cork was beat 6-0 by some top Eastern European crowd, was reportedly heard to say:
"Six nil? Ah, doesn't mean anything, just 6 lucky breaks". You gotta admire that level of optimism lol.
Reminds me of Mick O'Dwyer in the 70s who always could find something gracious to say about the team they had just hockeyed. You know your team is on the slide when your opponents are being nice to you lol"
PKeane is thinking more about Kerry than Tyrone essmac and trying to play down expectation from Kerry supporters. I watched the game again and there was no intensity at all from Tyrone. Could be too much hard training. They looked heavy legged. Here in Kerry we often fell on our faces after great performances and vice versa we often won all ireland after some very bad days. I would nt write Tyrone off over one collapse. When things like that happen it either makes or breaks a team and it's how they react that will define your year. Tyrone still have plenty of class players so don't lose hope. Let's hope we see Ronan McNamee and Darragh Canavan back ASAP along with McShane and a lightening up of the defense and we will see what happen. Remember that already in this league campaign Kerry s defense were ridiculed too as we're Donegal and Galway. Tyrone are a proud county.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 14/06/2021 16:41:14    2350857

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I'd agree with this. They have definitely narrowed the gap. But they will not beat dubs this year. But they have given me hope that Dublin will not get 10 in a row."
I said a few years ago football will live through another period of dominance by one county after Kerry develops to their inevitable level and Dublin through miles on the clock dip slightly.

I always thought Kerry football will not sit back and allow Dublin to dominate forever more and over the past number of years it's obvious investment both financially and in coaching terms has been put in.

That added to the unbelievable talent they have; has them almost at the end of their plan. I think this years championship will be 50/50 between them, but for any tennis fans out there I think we're heading towards that famous Sampras/Federer match, one titantic battle between the old champions and the one ready to take over that dominance; this year's All Ireland Final could be similar to that tennis match.

After this year I do expect Kerry to take over and it wouldn't surprise me if they make a mark on their own five (six now) in a row bid. For what it's worth I think Kerry will win that big All Ireland Final this year and go on to add a few more.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 14/06/2021 20:40:02    2350949

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Replying To sam1884:  "I said a few years ago football will live through another period of dominance by one county after Kerry develops to their inevitable level and Dublin through miles on the clock dip slightly.

I always thought Kerry football will not sit back and allow Dublin to dominate forever more and over the past number of years it's obvious investment both financially and in coaching terms has been put in.

That added to the unbelievable talent they have; has them almost at the end of their plan. I think this years championship will be 50/50 between them, but for any tennis fans out there I think we're heading towards that famous Sampras/Federer match, one titantic battle between the old champions and the one ready to take over that dominance; this year's All Ireland Final could be similar to that tennis match.

After this year I do expect Kerry to take over and it wouldn't surprise me if they make a mark on their own five (six now) in a row bid. For what it's worth I think Kerry will win that big All Ireland Final this year and go on to add a few more."
Did you miss the dublin Kerry game a few weeks back where they scored 4 goals and could have scored 3 more as well?

We have a chance of making the final and then we'll get bate by 6 points by dublin.

People will again say we're getting closer to dublin (which we won't be) a few more dubs will retire like philly and kluxtin people will say dublin have to fall back into the pack now and they'll name all the dubs that have retired over the last few years saying no team can lose the players of that calibre and keep winning but the dubs will continue to produce amazing athletes and they'll be programmed to stick to the process and win allirelands.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/06/2021 22:01:01    2350980

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Kerry are looking very good. When they manage to get it right they are still deadly. There's always a good game in a Kerry team. Good for Tyrone to take that beating now instead of later in the year.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 15/06/2021 04:52:20    2351029

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Did you miss the dublin Kerry game a few weeks back where they scored 4 goals and could have scored 3 more as well?

We have a chance of making the final and then we'll get bate by 6 points by dublin.

People will again say we're getting closer to dublin (which we won't be) a few more dubs will retire like philly and kluxtin people will say dublin have to fall back into the pack now and they'll name all the dubs that have retired over the last few years saying no team can lose the players of that calibre and keep winning but the dubs will continue to produce amazing athletes and they'll be programmed to stick to the process and win allirelands."
Nope not this year , Kerry are finally ready to take over , they have produced unbelievable athletes the fittest in the country ,there all out attacking style will blow this aging Dublin team away and we'll get beat by 7 points
They will go on to match Dublins 6 in a row -:)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 15/06/2021 11:19:54    2351087

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Replying To sam1884:  "I said a few years ago football will live through another period of dominance by one county after Kerry develops to their inevitable level and Dublin through miles on the clock dip slightly.

I always thought Kerry football will not sit back and allow Dublin to dominate forever more and over the past number of years it's obvious investment both financially and in coaching terms has been put in.

That added to the unbelievable talent they have; has them almost at the end of their plan. I think this years championship will be 50/50 between them, but for any tennis fans out there I think we're heading towards that famous Sampras/Federer match, one titantic battle between the old champions and the one ready to take over that dominance; this year's All Ireland Final could be similar to that tennis match.

After this year I do expect Kerry to take over and it wouldn't surprise me if they make a mark on their own five (six now) in a row bid. For what it's worth I think Kerry will win that big All Ireland Final this year and go on to add a few more."
Which Dublin players are you expecting to dip due to miles on the clock?

And if they do, where do you see Dublin now having the required quality of replacement?

Because the GAA and RTE has been trying to flog that story for 5 or 6 years now in the hope fans continue to show up and experience a financially backed procession.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 15/06/2021 11:28:50    2351089

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Which Dublin players are you expecting to dip due to miles on the clock?

And if they do, where do you see Dublin now having the required quality of replacement?

Because the GAA and RTE has been trying to flog that story for 5 or 6 years now in the hope fans continue to show up and experience a financially backed procession."
Relax Kerry have it sorted !

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 15/06/2021 12:43:14    2351120

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Nope not this year , Kerry are finally ready to take over , they have produced unbelievable athletes the fittest in the country ,there all out attacking style will blow this aging Dublin team away and we'll get beat by 7 points
They will go on to match Dublins 6 in a row -:)"
Yerra Yerra, go wan outta that.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 15/06/2021 13:16:44    2351129

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I honestly dont think this result is the end of the world. It is only the league and we are still in division 1.

It will take the new management team a season or two to find their feet and get the players used to being able to trust themselves and actually play football.

Put it this way, under Mickey Hartes reign we lost by 17 points to Dublin in an All Ireland semi final and that was with 13 men behind the ball playing god awful football.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 15/06/2021 19:49:37    2351248

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Nope not this year , Kerry are finally ready to take over , they have produced unbelievable athletes the fittest in the country ,there all out attacking style will blow this aging Dublin team away and we'll get beat by 7 points
They will go on to match Dublins 6 in a row -:)"
I think Tyrone were brutal on Saturday. They would have made any division 4 team look mighty. Kerry are peaking very early in the season. I think it was Donegal who peaked early a few years ago and were done by the time championship started.
I dont think Kerry can keep up at that level for the next 2 to 3 months.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 15/06/2021 20:45:13    2351259

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Replying To border Gael:  "I think Tyrone were brutal on Saturday. They would have made any division 4 team look mighty. Kerry are peaking very early in the season. I think it was Donegal who peaked early a few years ago and were done by the time championship started.
I dont think Kerry can keep up at that level for the next 2 to 3 months."
I disagree , Kerry are a very young team and the fittest team in the country
they will have no bother keeping that level up for the next 2to 3 months
in fact im sure they will get stronger.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 15/06/2021 22:34:00    2351299

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Replying To superbluedub:  "I disagree , Kerry are a very young team and the fittest team in the country
they will have no bother keeping that level up for the next 2to 3 months
in fact im sure they will get stronger."
Ah, you're trolling here for sure. Kerry's last two championship defeats revolved around them getting caught at the death by Cork last year and wilting against a 14 man Dublin in the drawn All-Ireland final in 2019.

There isn't a hope they're the fittest team in the country, although they do have a very strong forward line and are the "best of the rest" in my opinion.

The Dubs are leagues above everyone else and will win the next 3 or 4 All-Irelands, especially given that the average age of their side is getting younger if anything.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/06/2021 12:37:06    2351396

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My impression with Dublin v Kerry over the last few meetings and in the league meeting this year is that Dublin still have the edge over us. They seem to have a better structure, gameplan and very few question marks over any area of the field.

Kerry probably will look great up until the final as everyone is expecting this year, but last year shows we can slip up especially against whoever comes out of ulster.

We still have problems in defence, unsure of who is our best midfield and tactics playing Dublin will have to be different then playing any other team. I think we have the speed and scoring power to match them but you need more then that.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 16/06/2021 12:43:02    2351401

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I really hope Kerry or someone emerges as a contender, though i want to win every year, it might not be world ending for Dublin to loose one and i think there is every chance.

We are at the point now, were we have beaten everyone now for a decade, all contenders, all provinces, met every challenge, there is just no one left to beat.

We have lads like Jack McCaffery & Paul Mannion or Dermo who could have went on with 5 or 6 winners medals (could have been more), heaps of all stars and owning most team records in the game, saying what's left to achieve and looking around and doing something different and leaving the game in their mid years.

For me these lads need a competitive challenge, a fight to achieve, if Dublin were knocked of their perch this year, i dont necessarily think it might be world ending and i think these lads could come back and rise to a new challenge. I dont mean for that to sound hubris in anyway, but just trying to understand things from their point of view, who is left to beat or what is left to achieve for the commitment it requires year in, year out.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 16/06/2021 13:30:07    2351411

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I really hope Kerry or someone emerges as a contender, though i want to win every year, it might not be world ending for Dublin to loose one and i think there is every chance.

We are at the point now, were we have beaten everyone now for a decade, all contenders, all provinces, met every challenge, there is just no one left to beat.

We have lads like Jack McCaffery & Paul Mannion or Dermo who could have went on with 5 or 6 winners medals (could have been more), heaps of all stars and owning most team records in the game, saying what's left to achieve and looking around and doing something different and leaving the game in their mid years.

For me these lads need a competitive challenge, a fight to achieve, if Dublin were knocked of their perch this year, i dont necessarily think it might be world ending and i think these lads could come back and rise to a new challenge. I dont mean for that to sound hubris in anyway, but just trying to understand things from their point of view, who is left to beat or what is left to achieve for the commitment it requires year in, year out."
Maybe I'm being biased but I think Donegal is Dublins closest challengers and that includes Kerry. A bold statement and a tough run to play the Dubs in the final, but come back to me in a few months! (or after we lose by 2 points to Down next weekend lol)

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1141 - 17/06/2021 10:40:15    2351579

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "Maybe I'm being biased but I think Donegal is Dublins closest challengers and that includes Kerry. A bold statement and a tough run to play the Dubs in the final, but come back to me in a few months! (or after we lose by 2 points to Down next weekend lol)"
One game at a time, surely Bonner wont make the same mistakes as last year, if we get past Down RG will have Derry well primed for us and them likely coming of the back of winning their league final, nothing he'd like more than to see Donegal beaten. after that you have a nice easy game against Tyrone and your only still at semi final stage!! Love Ulster is right.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2746 - 17/06/2021 10:44:16    2351581

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