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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Was it Diarmuid Byrnes? Think again LRH"
Does it make a difference who it was?

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 17/05/2021 11:43:27    2342716

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I look forward to hearing from all Galway posters when decisions go against ye in games and especially a close game..have a look again at the full game and see how many actual frees limerick genuinely conceded not what they were blown for..I'll ask ye then to have a look at frees Galway should have conceded..we are talking about how supposed rules have changed for 2021..looking forward to getting a right crack off ye later in year..also James Owens likes Galway big time,the same man who found just under 10 mins injury time in 2018 to get them back into match..I also don't think all commentators and analysts are all wrong.."
Bringing up injury time from 2018 in relation to yesterday's match? That's a tangent if ever there was one. I'd understand a foggy memory from that day, but a good chunk of the injury time was from James Skehill getting treatment before being stretchered off. We also had 2 Limerick players going down with injury in injury time itself, after Whelan's goal, taking over a minute.
Anyway, on the issue of yesterday, Limerick's tackling technique is poor. They use a high hand and hurl to stop the man in possession. Stop doing that and you'll stop giving away frees.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 17/05/2021 11:51:10    2342720

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Replying To galwayford:  "A good and important win for Galway today. Score 26 points to 1.17. Solid performances all round. Cathal Mannion, Niland, Niall Burke and in defence Ger McInerney all played well. Limerick looked a bit unfit, some really big men eg Aaron Gillane trundling around a bit. Anyway onwards and upwards for the match against Tipp next week."
"Limerick looked a bit unfit, some really big men eg Aaron Gillane trundling around a bit."

You forgot to mention a couple of classy points by Gillane after coming on......keep on trundling.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1359 - 17/05/2021 11:54:09    2342721

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If you want to find a foul, then you can find a foul in nearly every single tackle in hurling. If you start blowing for them all, or only finding fouls where you want to see them...then no-one will watch the games anymore.
Limerick player struck with the fist on the final whistle = Red Card
Galway player interfered with the helmet of said Limerick player on the final whistle = Red Card

Setanta11 (Louth) - Posts: 42 - 17/05/2021 11:57:46    2342724

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Replying To baire:  "John Kiely's mask came off yesterday, he must be worried about Galway!
I didn't hear a word out of him apart from the usual platitudes when his team was winning. Not a word about simulation (his description yesterday) after last year's All-Ireland Semi-Final, not a word about Joe Canning who spent at least 7 or 8 minutes lying in serious pain on the ground after being hit in the back by Limerick's 'biggest' player. Maybe he should look at yesterday's game again in full without his green tinted eyes. Why for instance did Johnny Coen get booked? Why was Coen furious with Kiel Hayes. The camera can reveal a lot even if the ref and commentators miss it!"
" not a word about Joe Canning who spent at least 7 or 8 minutes lying in serious pain on the ground after being hit in the back by Limerick's 'biggest' player."

You are muddying the waters with your comment above....Joe Canning's serious injury came from a collision with his teammate .on of the Coomneys, I think" .

Sorry to confuse you with the facts, since your mind is already made up.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1359 - 17/05/2021 12:25:13    2342736

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I look forward to hearing from all Galway posters when decisions go against ye in games and especially a close game..have a look again at the full game and see how many actual frees limerick genuinely conceded not what they were blown for..I'll ask ye then to have a look at frees Galway should have conceded..we are talking about how supposed rules have changed for 2021..looking forward to getting a right crack off ye later in year..also James Owens likes Galway big time,the same man who found just under 10 mins injury time in 2018 to get them back into match..I also don't think all commentators and analysts are all wrong.."
Well said. I second that.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1359 - 17/05/2021 12:35:05    2342740

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well Jackie Tyrell very forcibly agreed with him on Sunday Sport."
I agree with Jackie, seeing stats like over 45 frees in Waterford Westmeath is alarming but I've no sympathy for Limerick, tactical fouling is a clear aspect of their gameplan going back to the 2020 championship, maybe from the Kinnerick playbook, Kiely should be more concerned with his team's discipline like Byrnes braindead punch at full time.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 17/05/2021 12:36:30    2342742

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "If we are that did you see the clip of a hurley Tuohy pulled on Hegarty's helmet yesterday. Right in front of Owens and the linesman and no free."
The commentators, both Galway men saw it, and commented that Tuohy was very lucky to get away with it. But neither the commentators nor the ref saw Kyle Hayes kicking a Galway player on the ground. There were lots of incidences on both sides. Galway played the better hurling. I'll put it like this, the Galway manager was far more gracious in defeat in last year's AISF than Limerick's manager yesterday.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1803 - 17/05/2021 12:43:37    2342747

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "" not a word about Joe Canning who spent at least 7 or 8 minutes lying in serious pain on the ground after being hit in the back by Limerick's 'biggest' player."

You are muddying the waters with your comment above....Joe Canning's serious injury came from a collision with his teammate .on of the Coomneys, I think" .

Sorry to confuse you with the facts, since your mind is already made up."
There's no confusion. I was referring to his first injury which came from GH.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1803 - 17/05/2021 12:48:30    2342752

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I think Kiely played it a lot better than his team, yesterday. It has got everyone talking about the "stop/start" nature of the games since the start of the league - he doesn't know who changed the "rules" but Limerick were not consulted.....and if this continues to be the way the games are refereed, we wont have anyone to watch them. Its not what "hurling men" want !!! And to add in also (possible the biggest threat to Limerick 2021) Galway are diving around the place, trying to fool the referee and are not playing fair, Galway are probably not even men for doing that .

lowandhard (Galway) - Posts: 33 - 17/05/2021 12:54:36    2342755

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Lads you are making more of things on this thread than should be made. It's the 2nd game of the league. Players are rusty and not fully match fit. So tackling would be sloppier. Refs always seem more whistle happy in the early stages of the league than later in the summer and this has been so since I started going to games in the 90s. As regards the 2 teams it's hard to make any judgements after so little hurling for 5 months. Galway have been 1 of the top 2 or 3 teams for the last 5 or 6 years and Limerick the same the last 3 or 4 years. Both are physically large probably the biggest 2 intercounty hurling teams size wise. Both will be among the favourites for Liam this year and rightly so.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 17/05/2021 13:15:07    2342761

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "If we are that did you see the clip of a hurley Tuohy pulled on Hegarty's helmet yesterday. Right in front of Owens and the linesman and no free."
Jesus ye want less frees but ye want a Galway players sent off, who would be a ref? What do ye want ? No frees at all ? I'm sorry but Galway are allowed to win too! Just accept it congratulate and move on. Like Shane o Neill did last year! And please for the good of the game go out and hurl and leave all that hand passing for other sports.

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 17/05/2021 13:29:20    2342772

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Replying To baire:  "The commentators, both Galway men saw it, and commented that Tuohy was very lucky to get away with it. But neither the commentators nor the ref saw Kyle Hayes kicking a Galway player on the ground. There were lots of incidences on both sides. Galway played the better hurling. I'll put it like this, the Galway manager was far more gracious in defeat in last year's AISF than Limerick's manager yesterday."
He was gracious alright but they were well beaten everywhere apart from the scoreboard...

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 372 - 17/05/2021 13:34:59    2342775

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Replying To Setanta11:  "If you want to find a foul, then you can find a foul in nearly every single tackle in hurling. If you start blowing for them all, or only finding fouls where you want to see them...then no-one will watch the games anymore.
Limerick player struck with the fist on the final whistle = Red Card
Galway player interfered with the helmet of said Limerick player on the final whistle = Red Card"
Indeed we can all see what we want to. Here's 2 you missed from Limerick:
1. Kyle Hayes kicking an opponent = Red Card
2. Diarmuid Byrnes punch at the final whistle = Red Card.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 859 - 17/05/2021 14:00:28    2342786

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lk are such a dirty team and terrible bad losers!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2198 - 17/05/2021 14:06:06    2342790

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Replying To Shocs07:  "He was gracious alright but they were well beaten everywhere apart from the scoreboard..."
What's your point?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1803 - 17/05/2021 14:07:27    2342791

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Replying To Shocs07:  "He was gracious alright but they were well beaten everywhere apart from the scoreboard..."
As were Linerick yesterday, except the scoreboard was a fairer reflection.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 17/05/2021 15:01:17    2342804

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Replying To Ailteoir:  "Indeed we can all see what we want to. Here's 2 you missed from Limerick:
1. Kyle Hayes kicking an opponent = Red Card
2. Diarmuid Byrnes punch at the final whistle = Red Card."
Ailteoir, we can all read what we want to read as well (!), my first example was in reference to the Byrnes' incident (Byrnes deserved a red card).....but sticking to the rules, the Galway lad also deserved a red for interfering with the helmet of an opponent (off-the ball).

Setanta11 (Louth) - Posts: 42 - 17/05/2021 15:24:47    2342809

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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "If you keep hitting lads in and around the head with hurls and hands you're bound to concede frees. Fairly simple really ..."
Well not always true. Hegarty got a good smack on the head yesterday and no free. Kiely had to say something.. You can see where the game is heading..of it goes non contact id prefer Hockey...Its a decent game ,probably better than hurling if the physical contact is gone

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 17/05/2021 15:35:52    2342819

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Oh the naivety....the only reason Kiely is saying anything is he sees Galway as a major challenger to their crown. He didn't care less about losing yesterday but he wants to heap the pressure on James Owens for the next game.
And an even bigger irony? The only referee from Limerick on the inter county circuit must be on commission from the whistle manufacturers for the amount of blowing he does of them. A great man to ruin a potentially good game.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 17/05/2021 15:37:16    2342820

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